America, not anyone else, and trump specifically, again abandons those who helped America. Great reputation and precedent.
Ok_Woodpecker17897 on
Stop saying The West if you mean America.
Careless_Ad8795 on
Yeah… this is sadly the most predictable thing ever. The Kurds get talked up when they’re useful and then dropped the second it’s inconvenient. It’s happened over and over and people still act shocked every time. At some point it just feels cruel to keep pretending the West is gonna do right by them.
BramGaunt on
I’m betraying nothing!
Certain western leaders do.
I have nothing to do with it.
comic_nerd_phd on
Saying “The West” deflects blame. Don’t need more lumped-together association with the USA. Call them out.
cul_de_singe on
How about “the world”? Not everything falls on one hemisphere. Damned if we do or don’t, we get involved we are neocolonialist, if we don’t we are selfish and evil.
Falcao1905 on
Is it really a betrayal when nobody in Syria likes the SDF? Even Syrian Kurds are quite divided, not to mention Syrian Arabs who absolutely despise them.
atosukoshide on
It is pathetic to see how the West (and that includes Europe) is betraying the Kurds after they fought off ISIS, but on the other hand, who wants to make Daddy Erdogan angry?
45nmRFSOI on
What exactly are they entitled to?
iamehmetcan on
so territorial integrity, sovereignty, international law and all that applies when it comes to Ukraine, Greenland but when kurdish claims territories by force and tries to divide Syria, Turkey, Iraq and Iran that’s not the case.
If you see no problem with supporting militarized ethnic minorities, you should also be okay with hosting the people migrating due to the political destabilization.
In fact, if you are a true supporter of their cause, you should start by accepting million more refugees instead of bribing authoritarian leaders to keep refugees/immigrants away from your borders.
Sound_Saracen on
Most Syrian Arabs don’t hold any ill will towards the Kurds in the same way Iraqis do, it’s just an ojective fact that the SDF were grossly incompetent, the territory they controlled – the residents in them, only lived there because the alternatives were far worse, so once the regime was toppled, there was no incentive for anybody to remain there.
Despite their oil revenues and relative stability compared to other factions, somehow the vast majority of the roads within the territory they control are still unpaved, classrooms are filled with students sat on the floor shivering from the cold.
The fact they had survived this long is nothing short of a miracle.
Temporary_County1838 on
Stop saying Kurds, Its PKK
heiisniper on
You don’t have pro-Kurds (refugees or immigrants that much) in the west and Qatari/bahrain whatever – do not sponsor protests so you don’t hear about them..
Unlike Palestinians for example
NothernlightDownunda on
“The West” is on it’s last legs, the downfall of the American empire will be the death knell for “the West”.
Plane_Willingness_25 on
I know people in the West love the Kurds and in turn defend the SDF blindly so I’m just going to leave these news reports here fyi:
[The Syrian Network for Human Rights reported that at least 22 civilians, including three children, were killed by SDF forces in Raqqa on Jan. 18, 2026, none of whom were involved in hostilities.](https://xcancel.com/Levant_24_/status/2014635405589590213#m)
[Arab-majority districts in the city of #Hasakah are being subjected since days to violations by #SDF-affiliated fighters. Sniping, executions (some reportedly of defecting members), arrests and provocations – like playing songs in Mosques at night – are among the documented cases.](https://xcancel.com/QalaatAlMudiq/status/2014416194091286985#m)
[Before entering Aqtan prison (#Raqqa province), evacuated last night by #SDF, specialized K9 units were sent to the site to inspect it. They detected explosives and booby traps that were planted by SDF fighters before the withdrawal, prompting Engineering teams to intervene and neutralize them.](https://xcancel.com/QalaatAlMudiq/status/2014635250165469480#m)
There is a reason why the SDF and the DAANES crumbled in a couple of days
Adorable-Database187 on
Who is “The west” here?
Bartimaevs on
What exactly was the expectation here? Eternal backing by the West for a statelet that in the end got folded over in a day?
I can sympathize with Minorities, Women and anyone that will be royally fucked over, but the era of unbridled interventionism has been a giant disaster for us. In fact anyone believing that Western leaders would led the Syrian civil war drag on for a minute more than it has to, is absolutely delusional. Few things have done as much damage to the EPP parties power base as the instability in Syria.
Particular_Bug0 on
The west told the SDF to take the initial deal with the Syrian state when they still had leverage. Against the US’s and EU’s wishes, the SDF refused. Then they were told to take the second deal while it was still worth it, the SDF refused again.
The “West” tried to help more then people think
MajinaiHanashi on
Con Coughlin is a ziocuck. Other than that “The West” will learn to stfu about things that affects others and not them.
myrainyday on
I think Europe is a bit preoccupied with war in Ukraine and Greenland at the moment to be actively involved in anything.
St_Atheist on
Not West… US betraying as always.
Zed_Blue on
As someone of armenian descent, the West has no obligation towards the Kurds, the Armenians, the Yezidis, or the Assyrians
meatym8blazer on
Telegraph when the West is not meddling in Middle-Eastern politics for once
Glory4cod on
It is more astonishing to me that why Kurds never learn. They have been “betrayed” times and times again, but they never learnt to NOT put any hope on foreign aids.
HereticLaserHaggis on
The kurds have no friends was a saying in geopolitics as far back as 30 years ago.
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America, not anyone else, and trump specifically, again abandons those who helped America. Great reputation and precedent.
Stop saying The West if you mean America.
Yeah… this is sadly the most predictable thing ever. The Kurds get talked up when they’re useful and then dropped the second it’s inconvenient. It’s happened over and over and people still act shocked every time. At some point it just feels cruel to keep pretending the West is gonna do right by them.
I’m betraying nothing!
Certain western leaders do.
I have nothing to do with it.
Saying “The West” deflects blame. Don’t need more lumped-together association with the USA. Call them out.
How about “the world”? Not everything falls on one hemisphere. Damned if we do or don’t, we get involved we are neocolonialist, if we don’t we are selfish and evil.
Is it really a betrayal when nobody in Syria likes the SDF? Even Syrian Kurds are quite divided, not to mention Syrian Arabs who absolutely despise them.
It is pathetic to see how the West (and that includes Europe) is betraying the Kurds after they fought off ISIS, but on the other hand, who wants to make Daddy Erdogan angry?
What exactly are they entitled to?
so territorial integrity, sovereignty, international law and all that applies when it comes to Ukraine, Greenland but when kurdish claims territories by force and tries to divide Syria, Turkey, Iraq and Iran that’s not the case.
If you see no problem with supporting militarized ethnic minorities, you should also be okay with hosting the people migrating due to the political destabilization.
In fact, if you are a true supporter of their cause, you should start by accepting million more refugees instead of bribing authoritarian leaders to keep refugees/immigrants away from your borders.
Most Syrian Arabs don’t hold any ill will towards the Kurds in the same way Iraqis do, it’s just an ojective fact that the SDF were grossly incompetent, the territory they controlled – the residents in them, only lived there because the alternatives were far worse, so once the regime was toppled, there was no incentive for anybody to remain there.
Despite their oil revenues and relative stability compared to other factions, somehow the vast majority of the roads within the territory they control are still unpaved, classrooms are filled with students sat on the floor shivering from the cold.
The fact they had survived this long is nothing short of a miracle.
Stop saying Kurds, Its PKK
You don’t have pro-Kurds (refugees or immigrants that much) in the west and Qatari/bahrain whatever – do not sponsor protests so you don’t hear about them..
Unlike Palestinians for example
“The West” is on it’s last legs, the downfall of the American empire will be the death knell for “the West”.
I know people in the West love the Kurds and in turn defend the SDF blindly so I’m just going to leave these news reports here fyi:
[The Syrian Network for Human Rights reported that at least 22 civilians, including three children, were killed by SDF forces in Raqqa on Jan. 18, 2026, none of whom were involved in hostilities.](https://xcancel.com/Levant_24_/status/2014635405589590213#m)
[Arab-majority districts in the city of #Hasakah are being subjected since days to violations by #SDF-affiliated fighters. Sniping, executions (some reportedly of defecting members), arrests and provocations – like playing songs in Mosques at night – are among the documented cases.](https://xcancel.com/QalaatAlMudiq/status/2014416194091286985#m)
[Before entering Aqtan prison (#Raqqa province), evacuated last night by #SDF, specialized K9 units were sent to the site to inspect it. They detected explosives and booby traps that were planted by SDF fighters before the withdrawal, prompting Engineering teams to intervene and neutralize them.](https://xcancel.com/QalaatAlMudiq/status/2014635250165469480#m)
[At least 23 Arab men were extrajudicially executed in Kobani and rural Hasakeh](https://xcancel.com/Charles_Lister/status/2014477776879755724#m)
There is a reason why the SDF and the DAANES crumbled in a couple of days
Who is “The west” here?
What exactly was the expectation here? Eternal backing by the West for a statelet that in the end got folded over in a day?
I can sympathize with Minorities, Women and anyone that will be royally fucked over, but the era of unbridled interventionism has been a giant disaster for us. In fact anyone believing that Western leaders would led the Syrian civil war drag on for a minute more than it has to, is absolutely delusional. Few things have done as much damage to the EPP parties power base as the instability in Syria.
The west told the SDF to take the initial deal with the Syrian state when they still had leverage. Against the US’s and EU’s wishes, the SDF refused. Then they were told to take the second deal while it was still worth it, the SDF refused again.
The “West” tried to help more then people think
Con Coughlin is a ziocuck. Other than that “The West” will learn to stfu about things that affects others and not them.
I think Europe is a bit preoccupied with war in Ukraine and Greenland at the moment to be actively involved in anything.
Not West… US betraying as always.
As someone of armenian descent, the West has no obligation towards the Kurds, the Armenians, the Yezidis, or the Assyrians
Telegraph when the West is not meddling in Middle-Eastern politics for once
It is more astonishing to me that why Kurds never learn. They have been “betrayed” times and times again, but they never learnt to NOT put any hope on foreign aids.
The kurds have no friends was a saying in geopolitics as far back as 30 years ago.