W: La risposta dell’Europa a X che richiede il passaporto

https://ioplus.nl/en/posts/w-europes-answer-to-x-that-demands-your-passport

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44 commenti

  1. timelyparadox on

    Plenty of things require verification. That is a good thing for a social network, considering 90% or comments in X are coming from bots

  2. butwhywedothis on

    Do people really really need to put their thoughts and brain farts in public for all to see? At what cost?

  3. ExpertPath on

    Bahahahahahahahaha!

    Wait, they’re serious, let me laugh even louder: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    On a more serious note, don’t they understand that such a setup is a complete non-starter. Probably going to end up like this EU video platform a few years ago, where the only users were EU officials, and nobody else.

  4. blieblablou on

    All privacy concerns that need to be addressed aside, if we want honest social media that isn’t abusable to divide our societies, identity verification is a must going forward.

  5. I am not giving my passport to a social media site.

    Sorry, but if that’s the alternative, I’ll prefer to hang out with the crazies on reddit, X, bluesky etc.

  6. FishingSuitable2475 on

    The irony of building a “sovereign” European alternative to X that immediately asks you to hand over a scan of your passport is peak 2026. We spent years fighting for GDPR and individual data rights just to land on a “solution” that essentially creates a centralized honeypot of every user’s most sensitive government ID. It’s hard to tell if this is a social media launch or just a very efficient way to streamline identity theft for the next inevitable data breach.

  7. I appreciate being able to verify that the users are real people. But i won’t be signing up to anything without knowing that my info is handled safely.

  8. SavvyCantaloupe on

    I want to see their userbase 😃😃😃 What a joke 😀

  9. clivegermain on

    w … tf? man european startups are the worst at naming things. could have named it shitter.

  10. I am not going to use a site that demands to upload photo of my passport. After all promises it is still “Whoopsie” waiting to happen.

    Instead of risking sensitive information people should be taugh increasingly media literacy

  11. Outside-Dig-5464 on

    AI content – couldn’t care less. Dont link to this shit. Find a link to someone who was paid.

  12. gameaddict1337 on

    It’s the same argument as ever.

    It might be fine today. Not using your data for anything. Then, a radical political power gets it’s hands on it. Maybe not in 5 or 10 years, but at some point.

    Now they can link your private messages and everything you’ve posted to you. Insurance might be impossible because you confined about liking to gas on the highway. You might even be prosecuted by new laws regarding some -ism which have made the kind og critique you posted 7 years ago illegal.

    Said something bad about the government? Muted/banned/fined.

    It’s the first step to the totalitarian system that China runs. Social credit and all that. I honestly see no solution other than educate people about propaganda, bots and AI OR literally shut SoMes down.

  13. Everyone mocked this and putting it down. But honestly, if this was just used by politicians, celebs, influencers – who cares?

    They’re not going to care as long as it gets their message out to a wide audience.

    And if they can do it in an environment that doesn’t have a wave of Russian bots in the comments declaring “Europe has fallen”, “Putin would fix this”, “We should all vote for [insert local nationalist]” then great.

    That’s all I want personally, a botless way for high profile names to communicate what they need to.

  14. Mirabeaux1789 on

    So bizarre to see “if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear” bullshit on this website

  15. Grafikpapst on

    Look, I understand the idea – but if the EU wants a way to verify real people and age, there is safer ways they could do it that dont involve your passport. You could just give everyone a seperate verification token/card/whatever that only holds the bare minumum of information to tell a page that you are old enough and a real person.

    Would a system like that be perfect? No of course not, but it would be alot safer than trusting any webpage with the security of your passport data.

  16. Qwinn_SVK on

    Where are all these ppl who mass likes creation of W on a post there few days ago xD

  17. CoffeeHQ on

    I actually don’t mind identity verification, I mind the way they intend to implement this (themselves).

    1. Having only ‘real’ people on there could be beneficial, sets this network apart. No bots, perhaps a more civilized tone.
    2. Being verified (on registration) and having to show your real name and photo on your profile for everyone to see *are two separate things*. I don’t want the latter.
    3. They need to rely on a trusted third party (ie your bank) that will just respond with “yep, it is them and they are 18+”. They don’t need to implement this themselves, I don’t trust *them* to perpetually hold my identification data. Hacks, etc.

    So best of luck, I’m sympathetic to the cause but the devil is in the details and as it stands this is DOA.

  18. kodos_der_henker on

    So it is basically just a big data scam that tries to flow on the current wave of the demand for European alternatives.

    Uploading pictures doesn’t prevent bot farms from using a service, electronic ID does and given an EU wide eID exists but isn’t used here simply means that bots are of no concern.

  19. Actual_Aside_2862 on

    Nice, next step? Give us points based on our behaviour on social media?

  20. alexvith on

    To be fair this brings up a point we don’t discuss that much. People think it’s overkill to link your real life credentials to a social media network, which is fair. At the same time, a single tweet on X can rile up tens of thousands of people, create political turmoil, affect people in real life. I don’t think we can separate the internet from real life anymore. Social media has effects on real life, whether we like it or not.

    I don’t have much issues owning the shit I say online, even if I have to prove my identity with governmental credentials. Be it. Security is a fair concern, but it’s not like I am 100% trusting my own government with my life either (anymore).

    My only gripe with this is the danger of profiling people based on their opinions and creating a database that can be used in very dangerous ways (say, a fascist government takes power again in Europe and demands access to W’s databases to target people with views opposing theirs).

    On the other side, with no sort of verification it’s just yet another platform that will be swarmed by bots and become a nest for disinformation and people with no scruples to spread their rhetoric.

  21. Davidat0r on

    While I don’t love it, I don’t see a better alternative. Well yes, not using social media at all, but until then..,

  22. Ash-From-Pallet-Town on

    I’m over all social medias. I haven’t used X in years. Never used Instagram or Tik Tok. There’s no way I will I get W. Reddit is the last one for now.

  23. PrizeSyntax on

    I really love that we as Europeans are trying to develop alternatives to the US services, but I hate how we are trying to turn the European internet into a freaking surveillance machine

  24. UncleObli on

    Thanks, but no thanks. My privacy is more important than a social network. I’m very fine with Lemmy and Mastodon for the most part.

  25. yeshuahanotsri on

    Funny how people give their data to uber and Lyft ,no problem or to ride e-scooters or whatever, but this is too much. 

    I think it’s a good idea. Less bots, more accountability (death threats), a place where (most) people are human. 

  26. PandaExperss on

    i dont have an issue with proving i am me, i have an issue giving my ID copy to a private company. the EU needs a verification process first, than we can talk about those sites needing it.

  27. EspressoFrog on

    From the article:

    “Users must link a valid passport or identity card to their profile. In addition, a recent photo is required to prove that the person behind the screen actually exists”

    Yeah. So supposing they are to be trusted, one leak of data and now those buying that info can now take loans and conduct other official business with it ?

  28. BalticBrew on

    We need an EU-wide identity check solution that prevents misuse of personal data. However, it is a very important step towards eliminating the hordes of Russian, Chinese, and other bots flooding social media and creating the illusion of support on various topics.

  29. whatstefansees on

    I understand the intention: No hiding, if you insult or misinform, it gets back to you. But I … don’t feel comfy with it and won’t become a member anyway.

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