And the family accepted the verdict and we never heard from them again….. /s
corpusvile2 on
Can’t believe there was a protest over this guy when the Gardai tried every available non lethal response at their disposal before shooting him.
CurrencyDesperate286 on
“A number of recommendations were made including that all armed gardaí wear body cameras and members of the ASU should have ones that start recording on initiation of calls as opposed to when they arrive at the scene.
The jurors also recommended that quarterly checks of pepper canister sprays should be carried out.”
“Mr Nkencho said the family hopes that the inquest will lead to meaningful change and that something similar won’t happen to another family.”
Unless the article leaves out some significant recommendations… i don’t see how they’re really aimed at preventing something similar?
1reallyhatemondays on
Will there be a inquest for the “peaceful protest ” that happened afterwards?
EltonBongJovi on
Anything and everything being brought up by that family besides the parent’s role in raising a violent scumbag (who they had a restraining order against).
raverbashing on
Can anyone clarify what a “narrative verdict” means?
Yuphrum on
I think a narrative verdict makes sense here. It really was a perfect storm of factors, a severe mental health crisis, stretched resources during lockdown, and an extremely volatile situation unfolding very quickly.
Ireland’s policing context matters too. Gardaí are not routinely armed, gun deaths are rare, and lethal force is very much a last resort. From what was presented, the Garda involved appears to have genuinely feared for his life and acted under intense pressure.
Obviously that doesn’t make the outcome any less tragic. A man lost his life, and a family has to live with that forever. But this case doesn’t neatly fit into “good vs evil” or slogans. It’s a reminder of how badly things can go wrong when mental health care, crisis response, and policing intersect, and why learning from it matters more than assigning simple blame.
katsumodo47 on
If it was any other country he’d be lit the fuck up no questions asked.
The gardai exhausted all options
Buddybudbud2021 on
Garda did there job can’t see what else they could have done
Patient-Attorney5287 on
Six shots sounds excessive. Unless he was a terminator, would one not be enough to stop him?
I agree with the decision btw, I think the guard got too hard a time as is.
SeriesDowntown5947 on
Reasonable advice on bodycams. This case was unfortunate. Hopefully every one can forgive and move forward in peace
Special_Confusion185 on
The lethal force was used because they didn’t keep the non lethal equipment operational.
Downtown_Expert572 on
Would a shotgun firing a bean bag have taken him down.
Hour_Mastodon_9404 on
The guy was severely mentally ill and was posing a serious risk to the life of the public and Gardaí. It’s obviously unfortunate, but the use of lethal force was clearly justified in the situation.
TarMc on
For those focusing on the spray being over the expiry date, the inquest didn’t report that there was any issue with the spray. It appears to have worked as intended, but it had expired and it then makes sense for the inquest to make that recommendation for more frequent checks.
The irritant in the spray doesn’t go bad; the propellant does. Evidence on Nkencho’s body and reports from gardai confirmed it did hit him as intended. It didn’t work as intended because if someone is motivated enough, they can just ignore it.
Last thing, the fucking cheek of his brother and sister to be making public comments now after the stuff they said and how they behaved in the aftermath. Both should count themselves lucky that they weren’t charged. If people have followed through on the stuff they were calling for then they would’ve been in a lot of trouble.
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And the family accepted the verdict and we never heard from them again….. /s
Can’t believe there was a protest over this guy when the Gardai tried every available non lethal response at their disposal before shooting him.
“A number of recommendations were made including that all armed gardaí wear body cameras and members of the ASU should have ones that start recording on initiation of calls as opposed to when they arrive at the scene.
The jurors also recommended that quarterly checks of pepper canister sprays should be carried out.”
“Mr Nkencho said the family hopes that the inquest will lead to meaningful change and that something similar won’t happen to another family.”
Unless the article leaves out some significant recommendations… i don’t see how they’re really aimed at preventing something similar?
Will there be a inquest for the “peaceful protest ” that happened afterwards?
Anything and everything being brought up by that family besides the parent’s role in raising a violent scumbag (who they had a restraining order against).
Can anyone clarify what a “narrative verdict” means?
I think a narrative verdict makes sense here. It really was a perfect storm of factors, a severe mental health crisis, stretched resources during lockdown, and an extremely volatile situation unfolding very quickly.
Ireland’s policing context matters too. Gardaí are not routinely armed, gun deaths are rare, and lethal force is very much a last resort. From what was presented, the Garda involved appears to have genuinely feared for his life and acted under intense pressure.
Obviously that doesn’t make the outcome any less tragic. A man lost his life, and a family has to live with that forever. But this case doesn’t neatly fit into “good vs evil” or slogans. It’s a reminder of how badly things can go wrong when mental health care, crisis response, and policing intersect, and why learning from it matters more than assigning simple blame.
If it was any other country he’d be lit the fuck up no questions asked.
The gardai exhausted all options
Garda did there job can’t see what else they could have done
Six shots sounds excessive. Unless he was a terminator, would one not be enough to stop him?
I agree with the decision btw, I think the guard got too hard a time as is.
Reasonable advice on bodycams. This case was unfortunate. Hopefully every one can forgive and move forward in peace
The lethal force was used because they didn’t keep the non lethal equipment operational.
Would a shotgun firing a bean bag have taken him down.
The guy was severely mentally ill and was posing a serious risk to the life of the public and Gardaí. It’s obviously unfortunate, but the use of lethal force was clearly justified in the situation.
For those focusing on the spray being over the expiry date, the inquest didn’t report that there was any issue with the spray. It appears to have worked as intended, but it had expired and it then makes sense for the inquest to make that recommendation for more frequent checks.
The irritant in the spray doesn’t go bad; the propellant does. Evidence on Nkencho’s body and reports from gardai confirmed it did hit him as intended. It didn’t work as intended because if someone is motivated enough, they can just ignore it.
Last thing, the fucking cheek of his brother and sister to be making public comments now after the stuff they said and how they behaved in the aftermath. Both should count themselves lucky that they weren’t charged. If people have followed through on the stuff they were calling for then they would’ve been in a lot of trouble.