Sto cercando di capire la complessità del linguaggio qui. Ad esempio, recentemente i viaggiatori e i linguisti sono molto espliciti nell’usare la forma “w Dominikanie” quando parlano della Repubblica Dominicana come luogo, perché la Repubblica Dominicana è una Paese situato sull’isola di Haiti (Hispaniola).
D’altro canto, utilizziamo la forma “na Haiti” anche quando ci riferiamo a Paese Haiti sull’isola di Haiti (Ispaniola).
Dov’è il problema? Dovrebbe essere anche il w* ? In entrambi i casi ci riferiamo a un paese che condivide un’isola con un altro paese.
Su Internet, sembra essere un miscuglio.
Questo YouTuber utilizza la versione na*:
Ma qui usano w*:
What’s the proper form “na Haiti” or “w Haiti”?
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di DataGeek86
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Na Haiti – if you mean the island.
W Haiti – if you mean the country.
w Czechach, ale na Słowacji
na Ukrainie, w Ukrainie…
There is no good rule about that. I expect that every Polish-speaking person would correctly understand both options.
W Haiti when speakjng of the country, na Haiti when speaking of the island.
Using “na” instead of “w” is a rude but deniable way to question countrys statehood.
Islands go with ‘na’. The problem is, Haiti is only 1/3 of the island called Hispanola, hence the mess
if it’s an island, we would say “na” rather than “w”
It’s “na” – always for islands, and I mean always: na Cyprze, na Islandii, na Wolinie itd
Frankly however, it’s better to consult a grammar book than Reddit 😉
For islands na is correct. Na is also used for regions (eg “na śląsku”).
For a couple countries, previously per the official grammar rules it was “na” and only in the recent years the Russian invasion in Ukraine sparked debate and voices to forfeit using “na” because it implies a territory ot region not an independent country as mentioned above. So once this sentiment developed for Ukraine and w became preferred, it’s being applied to other examples. There’s resistance to this too from some people with more conservative views but I think the change to “w” is now pretty established