How about Europe?! 120billions in gas purchases from Russia…
ISNT THAT ALSO BANKROLLING?!?!??????
SweetAlyssumm on
Europe is ready to jump in bed with China like their boyfriend left them. Geopolitical politics is a game of high stakes poker, not high school grade drama. Eventually they will see that China is a dicey partner at best and not aligned with their values or self-interest.
China’s support is also why the war in Ukraine is going to continue to drag on, sadly. Europe keeps pretending it’s almost over, Russia has a bad economy, blah blah, but China’s pockets are deep.
ChamyChamy on
Why are we allowing misinformation here? Following that logic europe itself is funding Putin’s war
Standard-School5236 on
I mean China is simply conducting normal business with Russia. Moreover, China has not provided Russia with any direct lethal weapon. Many countries in the Global South, as well as Hungary, are also maintaining trade ties with Russia.
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GremlinX_ll on
Welp, with all respect to those countries who help, West (for exception for a few countries) decided that Russian defeat is not in their interest either, at least not in the sense of military defeat, and they still believe that they can continue to boil this frog.
Which is kinda ironic that they now afraid of any potential conflict with Russia. and in somewhat panic mode dumping money into their respective armies, preparing infrastructure and so on.
(not like we didn’t warned in 2022, but who listens, right ?)
redditistheway on
No matter what the outcome of the war is, every dollar loaned to Putin imposes a far higher cost on the west. They’re also definitely going to collect Russian assets on the cheap as repayment when this is all over with.
advator on
Yep, and let’s welcome BYD.
Latter-Corner8977 on
America been doing similar to Europe with “just enough” to drag things out.
Wodanaz_Odinn on
As American, should you not be more concerned about your own country sharing intelligence with the Russians, OP?
SnooHesitations1020 on
China is a country that talks out of both sides of its mouth. It claims to seek global stability yet it supports war.
This is why it cannot be trusted.
ingeniouspleb on
We are next after USA. They will bankroll Nazis in to power in European countries and watch us get destroyed from the inside. They did it with Trump and we are next!
acu on
Geopolitics is hard
Neversetinstone on
China bankrolling Putin’s war to gain advantage over West, MPs told
Beijing’s huge support for Russian aggression against Ukraine part of larger threatening posture, air marshal tells Commons committee
China has become the main financial backer for Russia’s war against Ukraine, MPs have been told.
Air Marshal Ed Stringer, a former head of RAF intelligence, said Beijing was “covertly” ramping up its support for Moscow as it sought to gain an economic advantage over the West.
“China has discretely built supply lines going to drone factories in Russia,” he told the Commons defence committee on Tuesday.
“Open source suggests 60 per cent of the Russian war effort is being covertly bankrolled by China… so there’s a huge amount of support from China.”
The retired officer added: “Russia can only maintain this war because China is essentially bankrolling it.”
Observers fear China poses an increasing threat to the UK, with Beijing-backed hackers having targeted the phones of aides to former prime ministers Boris Johnson, Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak in an effort to steal government secrets.
At the same time, concerns have been raised after the Government chose to approve plans for a Chinese super-embassy in London, which The Telegraph revealed would be located alongside some of the City’s most sensitive communications cables.
On Tuesday, MPs were warned Beijing was seeking economic dominance over the West and could use its influence over Moscow to “distract” Nato while it builds up its own military.
Leading defence academics warned Xi Jinping, the Chinese president, could put pressure on Vladimir Putin, the Russian leader, to attack Estonia, where hundreds of British troops are deployed on a mission to protect Nato’s eastern flank.
Sir Hew Strachan, a Wardlaw professor of international relations at University of St Andrews, told MPs China was seeking “opportunities” to tie up the West, if Russia agrees a peace deal with Ukraine.
Asked whether Beijing could “encourage” such an attack, Sir Hew said: “If it continues to result in cheap Russian oil coming into China, then possibly it would have an incentive to do that.”
British troops are gathering in Estonia as part of a training exercise involving 1,250 soldiers from across the Nato alliance, including France, America and Estonia.
UK forces are deployed to the country under Operation Cabrit, which is Britain’s contribution to Nato’s forward land forces across Estonia and Poland, with the Royal Tank Regiment having been in Estonia since September last year.
Lt Col Mark Luson, the regiment’s commanding officer, insisted Britain was ready for any mission, adding: “Nato here feels stronger than ever.”
Air Marshal Stringer said he did not believe China would want to “foment a conflict”.
“But it would be very happy to see Europe tied up spending a lot of its GDP on defence against something that looks like a frozen conflict around Ukraine and Belarus,” he added.
The warning came as Putin showed little sign of ending his onslaught against Ukraine, which will mark its fourth anniversary later this month.
Russia launched one of its most intensive attacks overnight on Monday, using more than 70 missiles and 450 attack drones against Ukraine’s energy network, plunging parts of Kyiv into darkness, said Volodymyr Zelensky, Ukraine’s president.
It is unclear how many of the drones used were produced with aid from China.
However, the barrage left more than 1,000 tower blocks in the capital without heating as temperatures plunged to -20C and damaged a power plant in the capital beyond repair.
The Russian strike took place halfway through a truce on energy infrastructure attacks that was supposed to last a week, according to Donald Trump, and before Russian, Ukrainian and American negotiators were due to meet in Abu Dhabi for the next round of peace talks on Wednesday.
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Who wins in a fight between Russia and the West?
China.
China should invade Russia, take about a week
How about Europe?! 120billions in gas purchases from Russia…
ISNT THAT ALSO BANKROLLING?!?!??????
Europe is ready to jump in bed with China like their boyfriend left them. Geopolitical politics is a game of high stakes poker, not high school grade drama. Eventually they will see that China is a dicey partner at best and not aligned with their values or self-interest.
China’s support is also why the war in Ukraine is going to continue to drag on, sadly. Europe keeps pretending it’s almost over, Russia has a bad economy, blah blah, but China’s pockets are deep.
Why are we allowing misinformation here? Following that logic europe itself is funding Putin’s war
I mean China is simply conducting normal business with Russia. Moreover, China has not provided Russia with any direct lethal weapon. Many countries in the Global South, as well as Hungary, are also maintaining trade ties with Russia.
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Welp, with all respect to those countries who help, West (for exception for a few countries) decided that Russian defeat is not in their interest either, at least not in the sense of military defeat, and they still believe that they can continue to boil this frog.
Which is kinda ironic that they now afraid of any potential conflict with Russia. and in somewhat panic mode dumping money into their respective armies, preparing infrastructure and so on.
(not like we didn’t warned in 2022, but who listens, right ?)
No matter what the outcome of the war is, every dollar loaned to Putin imposes a far higher cost on the west. They’re also definitely going to collect Russian assets on the cheap as repayment when this is all over with.
Yep, and let’s welcome BYD.
America been doing similar to Europe with “just enough” to drag things out.
As American, should you not be more concerned about your own country sharing intelligence with the Russians, OP?
China is a country that talks out of both sides of its mouth. It claims to seek global stability yet it supports war.
This is why it cannot be trusted.
We are next after USA. They will bankroll Nazis in to power in European countries and watch us get destroyed from the inside. They did it with Trump and we are next!
Geopolitics is hard
China bankrolling Putin’s war to gain advantage over West, MPs told
Beijing’s huge support for Russian aggression against Ukraine part of larger threatening posture, air marshal tells Commons committee
China has become the main financial backer for Russia’s war against Ukraine, MPs have been told.
Air Marshal Ed Stringer, a former head of RAF intelligence, said Beijing was “covertly” ramping up its support for Moscow as it sought to gain an economic advantage over the West.
“China has discretely built supply lines going to drone factories in Russia,” he told the Commons defence committee on Tuesday.
“Open source suggests 60 per cent of the Russian war effort is being covertly bankrolled by China… so there’s a huge amount of support from China.”
The retired officer added: “Russia can only maintain this war because China is essentially bankrolling it.”
Observers fear China poses an increasing threat to the UK, with Beijing-backed hackers having targeted the phones of aides to former prime ministers Boris Johnson, Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak in an effort to steal government secrets.
At the same time, concerns have been raised after the Government chose to approve plans for a Chinese super-embassy in London, which The Telegraph revealed would be located alongside some of the City’s most sensitive communications cables.
On Tuesday, MPs were warned Beijing was seeking economic dominance over the West and could use its influence over Moscow to “distract” Nato while it builds up its own military.
Leading defence academics warned Xi Jinping, the Chinese president, could put pressure on Vladimir Putin, the Russian leader, to attack Estonia, where hundreds of British troops are deployed on a mission to protect Nato’s eastern flank.
Sir Hew Strachan, a Wardlaw professor of international relations at University of St Andrews, told MPs China was seeking “opportunities” to tie up the West, if Russia agrees a peace deal with Ukraine.
Asked whether Beijing could “encourage” such an attack, Sir Hew said: “If it continues to result in cheap Russian oil coming into China, then possibly it would have an incentive to do that.”
British troops are gathering in Estonia as part of a training exercise involving 1,250 soldiers from across the Nato alliance, including France, America and Estonia.
UK forces are deployed to the country under Operation Cabrit, which is Britain’s contribution to Nato’s forward land forces across Estonia and Poland, with the Royal Tank Regiment having been in Estonia since September last year.
Lt Col Mark Luson, the regiment’s commanding officer, insisted Britain was ready for any mission, adding: “Nato here feels stronger than ever.”
Air Marshal Stringer said he did not believe China would want to “foment a conflict”.
“But it would be very happy to see Europe tied up spending a lot of its GDP on defence against something that looks like a frozen conflict around Ukraine and Belarus,” he added.
The warning came as Putin showed little sign of ending his onslaught against Ukraine, which will mark its fourth anniversary later this month.
Russia launched one of its most intensive attacks overnight on Monday, using more than 70 missiles and 450 attack drones against Ukraine’s energy network, plunging parts of Kyiv into darkness, said Volodymyr Zelensky, Ukraine’s president.
It is unclear how many of the drones used were produced with aid from China.
However, the barrage left more than 1,000 tower blocks in the capital without heating as temperatures plunged to -20C and damaged a power plant in the capital beyond repair.
The Russian strike took place halfway through a truce on energy infrastructure attacks that was supposed to last a week, according to Donald Trump, and before Russian, Ukrainian and American negotiators were due to meet in Abu Dhabi for the next round of peace talks on Wednesday.