I had to read the article to make sure your title was correct. Forty BILLION……. BILLION. What in the name of fucking Christ.
ODFoxtrotOscar on
That the cost would be eyewatering has been known for quite a while
Presumably some good hunter cats is the solution to the vermin
limeflavoured on
Left out of the headline is that the renovation is going to take *61 years* because the government refuse to move somewhere else for ~10 years to allow a (cheaper) renovation.
Material_Regret4827 on
i’m sure the tendering process will be completely above board
cheekybutterfly on
Yeah, it’s true, and I’ve heard it has a rodent problem, too.
Haunting_Cell_8876 on
_Parliament is overrun by rats and mice_
That’s just the MPs.
Lego_Kitsune on
“Overrun by rats”
Yea theyre called the Tories, not sure if you’ve heard of them
Suspicious_Brief_235 on
Can’t they just get a few cats from RSPCA or Cat Protection? It would defo be a good deed to give a few cats a home.
VamosFicar on
Parliament is over run with vermin. Tell us something we don’t know.
_Alea-Iacta-Est on
Just start the work for gods sake is not like it’s going to magically get cheaper, easier or quicker to do
Chill_Panda on
We know parliament is over run with rats, but I don’t see how it costs 40 billion to kick out all those politicians
aleopardstail on
well yes its infested with rats, there are also some actual rodents
that £40B will be a 2026 money value figure (so excluding inflation), excluding risk and uncertainty, and likely also excluding VAT and other taxes
Rude_Sheepherder_714 on
Well yes, both chambers are indeed overrun with vermin…
Scoobilatchi on
There are over 600 rats in the chamber alone, they can typically be found sitting there in plain site at prime minister’s questions
Dando_Calrisian on
It’s only a building. Seriously, just knock it down and move to another office block. Spend the other £39 billion unfucking the country… or give the entire UK population £500 each. In fact, give us a hammer each and we’ll do it for you
Wackylew on
Wouldn’t it be cheaper just to blow it up Guy Fawkes style?
brntuk on
Surely an online Parliament wouldnt cost that sum – you know, one that was transparent and cost effective, and dare I say it, world leading.
Spamgrenade on
Parliament will burn down before anyone makes a decision on this. Its another one that can’t be won one way or the other.
Complex_Specific1373 on
I’m sorry, 40 fucking billion?
The fucking channel tunnel only cost 9 billion in todays money.
The The Gorges Dam was cheaper
Appropriate_North806 on
Well, that describes all the MPs perfectly I think
Rufus_Ffolkes on
Let’s build a new building or parliament campus(basic housing and transport links) outside of London.
Turn the old building into a museum or something.
yourefunny on
I just read that the fricking international space station cost $150 billion. How is this going to cost £40 billion! Get fucked you money grabbing wankers!
bluejackmovedagain on
It’s entirely falling apart, and not at all fit for purpose. You just need to watch a debate and vote for a three line whip bill to see that the chamber is too small (it only seats 427 people) and that the lobby voting system is ridiculously inefficient.
The best option would be to build a modern parliament building from scratch, and then to renovate the HoP and turn it into a museum. Doing it that way also means that, if we wanted, the HoP could still be used for things like the Kings Speech to maintain its traditional pageantry.
LeonardoW9 on
I guess this is the commoner version of ‘the peasants are revolting’ – ‘I know’
anonnymouse2025 on
Build somewhere new and modern. Blocks of 2-3 bed flats for MPs and staff, no more second home payments. Canteen on-site with basic meal allowance, no alcohol.
shuboyboy on
This is not a serious country. I like preserving old and important buildings/monuments etc. I do, but at that level of cost the sensible thing is just knock it down. And before anyone starts getting aghast and going about it being listed etc., all I can say is that I really don’t care – it’s dreadful as a parliament building to begin with, and to put it on life support for decades only for it to emerge as largely the same thing, all the whilst bleeding the nation dry thought our grandkids lifetime is insane.
Build an actual 21st century building somewhere for a fraction of that cost that features all mod cons and can actually fit all of the MPs in it, and sell off the building and land. We shouldn’t be nostalgic just for nostalgia’s sake, we should be doing things that make sense for national progression and not painfully clinging onto the 1800s because we were a country that could swing it’s dick back then.
LordLucian on
Are they talking about the politicians or the venue?
South_Buy_3175 on
So just gonna guess it’s actually going to cost 100 billion, take a lifetime to complete and somehow be way worse in every single way.
Unless it gets cancelled part way through. And naturally there’ll be corruption and incompetence at every level.
Can’t wait to hear about the scandal on this in 20 years time.
Musername2827 on
Build an actual modern building somewhere else and have this as a tourist trap.
Impossible-Maybe6088 on
Parliament is overrun by rats… Yes, they are called MPs
CanaryWundaboy on
They could build a simple parliament building replacement in 6 months, no bar, no pomp and expensive crap, just a couple of large chambers and the offices they need, in a central location OUTSIDE LONDON. Then move everyone out and get the contractors in. It would still cost a few billion but far less than every other option I’ve seen mooted.
A_friendly_goosey on
I know this will be hugely unpopular but sometimes a building isn’t fit for purpose and should be replaced. I know I know… culture, heritage etc. but 40+ billion? Which means it’ll actually be 100+… sorry but we’re not exactly swimming in cash? How about infrastructure projects which actually provide value?
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gpowerf on
“a vast project which could cost up to £40 billion and take more than six decades to complete.”
Buildings have a useful lifespan. I know this will annoy the people who never want anything to change and would happily turn the clock back if they could. Fine. Downvote away. But at some point you have to be honest. If the estimate is 60 years and £40 billion, we all know what that really means. It is more like a century and £200 billion.
Those buildings are done. They have reached the end of their life. Stop pretending they can be endlessly patched up. Knock them down and build something new that actually makes sense for the future.
TheL0wKing on
Why don’t we just build a new modern parliment somewhere else and leave the Palace of Westminster as a tourist attraction and world heritiage site? It would be substantially cheaper and open up options for shifting policitians away from London. Not to mention that trying to run a modern country out of a building older than London’s sewer system might not be too efficient.
Or do MPs really need the ego boost of working out of a 200 year old Palance with a river view?
CropCircles_ on
Canada is also revamping their houses of parliament, which are similiar in style to ours. They are spending £3 billion, to be completed by 2030.
Maybe our MPs are being a tad indulgent?
the_hair_of_aenarion on
Ill sell them a cat if they have a rat problem. Forty billion pounds is an insane ass pull figure that only a crackpot comes up with.
MilkyCowTits1312 on
They really need to just give up on parliament being there and move it somewhere more modern and sensible, it’s been falling apart and full of rats and damp and leaks and dodgy electrics for decades now.
chopinsladyfriend on
40 billion? Just tear the building down and build them a new one out of concrete. It’s like politicians in this country are desperate for people to fucking hate them.
Temporary_Channel434 on
I mean, shouldn’t this be something the public votes on?
Treble_brewing on
And that’s before you even get to the rodent problem.
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I had to read the article to make sure your title was correct. Forty BILLION……. BILLION. What in the name of fucking Christ.
That the cost would be eyewatering has been known for quite a while
Presumably some good hunter cats is the solution to the vermin
Left out of the headline is that the renovation is going to take *61 years* because the government refuse to move somewhere else for ~10 years to allow a (cheaper) renovation.
i’m sure the tendering process will be completely above board
Yeah, it’s true, and I’ve heard it has a rodent problem, too.
_Parliament is overrun by rats and mice_
That’s just the MPs.
“Overrun by rats”
Yea theyre called the Tories, not sure if you’ve heard of them
Can’t they just get a few cats from RSPCA or Cat Protection? It would defo be a good deed to give a few cats a home.
Parliament is over run with vermin. Tell us something we don’t know.
Just start the work for gods sake is not like it’s going to magically get cheaper, easier or quicker to do
We know parliament is over run with rats, but I don’t see how it costs 40 billion to kick out all those politicians
well yes its infested with rats, there are also some actual rodents
that £40B will be a 2026 money value figure (so excluding inflation), excluding risk and uncertainty, and likely also excluding VAT and other taxes
Well yes, both chambers are indeed overrun with vermin…
There are over 600 rats in the chamber alone, they can typically be found sitting there in plain site at prime minister’s questions
It’s only a building. Seriously, just knock it down and move to another office block. Spend the other £39 billion unfucking the country… or give the entire UK population £500 each. In fact, give us a hammer each and we’ll do it for you
Wouldn’t it be cheaper just to blow it up Guy Fawkes style?
Surely an online Parliament wouldnt cost that sum – you know, one that was transparent and cost effective, and dare I say it, world leading.
Parliament will burn down before anyone makes a decision on this. Its another one that can’t be won one way or the other.
I’m sorry, 40 fucking billion?
The fucking channel tunnel only cost 9 billion in todays money.
The The Gorges Dam was cheaper
Well, that describes all the MPs perfectly I think
Let’s build a new building or parliament campus(basic housing and transport links) outside of London.
Turn the old building into a museum or something.
I just read that the fricking international space station cost $150 billion. How is this going to cost £40 billion! Get fucked you money grabbing wankers!
It’s entirely falling apart, and not at all fit for purpose. You just need to watch a debate and vote for a three line whip bill to see that the chamber is too small (it only seats 427 people) and that the lobby voting system is ridiculously inefficient.
The best option would be to build a modern parliament building from scratch, and then to renovate the HoP and turn it into a museum. Doing it that way also means that, if we wanted, the HoP could still be used for things like the Kings Speech to maintain its traditional pageantry.
I guess this is the commoner version of ‘the peasants are revolting’ – ‘I know’
Build somewhere new and modern. Blocks of 2-3 bed flats for MPs and staff, no more second home payments. Canteen on-site with basic meal allowance, no alcohol.
This is not a serious country. I like preserving old and important buildings/monuments etc. I do, but at that level of cost the sensible thing is just knock it down. And before anyone starts getting aghast and going about it being listed etc., all I can say is that I really don’t care – it’s dreadful as a parliament building to begin with, and to put it on life support for decades only for it to emerge as largely the same thing, all the whilst bleeding the nation dry thought our grandkids lifetime is insane.
Build an actual 21st century building somewhere for a fraction of that cost that features all mod cons and can actually fit all of the MPs in it, and sell off the building and land. We shouldn’t be nostalgic just for nostalgia’s sake, we should be doing things that make sense for national progression and not painfully clinging onto the 1800s because we were a country that could swing it’s dick back then.
Are they talking about the politicians or the venue?
So just gonna guess it’s actually going to cost 100 billion, take a lifetime to complete and somehow be way worse in every single way.
Unless it gets cancelled part way through. And naturally there’ll be corruption and incompetence at every level.
Can’t wait to hear about the scandal on this in 20 years time.
Build an actual modern building somewhere else and have this as a tourist trap.
Parliament is overrun by rats… Yes, they are called MPs
They could build a simple parliament building replacement in 6 months, no bar, no pomp and expensive crap, just a couple of large chambers and the offices they need, in a central location OUTSIDE LONDON. Then move everyone out and get the contractors in. It would still cost a few billion but far less than every other option I’ve seen mooted.
I know this will be hugely unpopular but sometimes a building isn’t fit for purpose and should be replaced. I know I know… culture, heritage etc. but 40+ billion? Which means it’ll actually be 100+… sorry but we’re not exactly swimming in cash? How about infrastructure projects which actually provide value?
Sorry Reddit don’t hate me 🙁
“a vast project which could cost up to £40 billion and take more than six decades to complete.”
Buildings have a useful lifespan. I know this will annoy the people who never want anything to change and would happily turn the clock back if they could. Fine. Downvote away. But at some point you have to be honest. If the estimate is 60 years and £40 billion, we all know what that really means. It is more like a century and £200 billion.
Those buildings are done. They have reached the end of their life. Stop pretending they can be endlessly patched up. Knock them down and build something new that actually makes sense for the future.
Why don’t we just build a new modern parliment somewhere else and leave the Palace of Westminster as a tourist attraction and world heritiage site? It would be substantially cheaper and open up options for shifting policitians away from London. Not to mention that trying to run a modern country out of a building older than London’s sewer system might not be too efficient.
Or do MPs really need the ego boost of working out of a 200 year old Palance with a river view?
Canada is also revamping their houses of parliament, which are similiar in style to ours. They are spending £3 billion, to be completed by 2030.
Maybe our MPs are being a tad indulgent?
Ill sell them a cat if they have a rat problem. Forty billion pounds is an insane ass pull figure that only a crackpot comes up with.
They really need to just give up on parliament being there and move it somewhere more modern and sensible, it’s been falling apart and full of rats and damp and leaks and dodgy electrics for decades now.
40 billion? Just tear the building down and build them a new one out of concrete. It’s like politicians in this country are desperate for people to fucking hate them.
I mean, shouldn’t this be something the public votes on?
And that’s before you even get to the rodent problem.