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    1. ThriveBeyond-Co-Ke on

      All busy highly populated cities have a significant part of the population who survive solely on crime

    3. BenButton123 on

      Whilst it is mainly those on the right pushing this narrative, I have also seen it spouted on this sub by people who are pro EU and in their constant seething about Brexit are determined to paint Britain as some third world hellscape now we’re no longer in the EU.

    4. corenovax on

      Turns out it’s quite helpful to make a high-quality debunk video to turn around the narrative

    5. Moosplauze on

      Fearmongering, propaganda and conspiracy theories, the tools of the new far right, funded by Russia and MAGA.

    6. Round_Headed_Gimp on

      “Supposed” islamification.

      No supposing, it’s just a fact.

      Muslims were 8.5% of the population in 2001,12.5% in 2011 and 15% in 2021.

    7. clouds_visitor on

      This is once again showing the failure of democracy: no democracy can function when citizens have such a mislead view of reality. How can you have any sort of debate with someone who you can’t agree with on basic facts?

    8. Abject_Interview5988 on

      I mean everyone should see that it’s bullshit anyway, it’s all part of the ‘project 2025’ billionaire nonce plan to screw over Britain and Europe

      The problem is the narrative about big, scary, London already existed in the mind of simple townies and impoverished northerners – London being the place that somehow gets all the money and resources but is also, apparently, worse than everywhere else in Britain in their minds

    9. elusivehonor on

      This feels a bit disingenuous.

      If knife crime before a certain point was extremely low, but increased two or three fold, that’s still a big problem even when the rate of crime is lower than other places.

    10. Blackfoxar on

      in my opinion, most bad things are american propaganda so that the americans fear europe and dont want to look up what a better living standard looks like.

    11. Mormegil71 on

      Right wing supporters paint this picture in any city, in all nations. They feed of the fear.

    12. Stoic_cave on

      No, danger isn’t exclusive, it’s in most cities. Uk police took down crime phone gang which accounted for 40% of all robberies of phones and mopeds

    13. LoenSlave on

      Why is the homicide rate relevant, lol? It’s the theft and stealing that is crazy, you can’t even insure a Land Rover in London ffs.

    15. Glum_Manager on

      Same as Milan: in every Italian sub many talk like it is Mos Eisley, with people killed in broad daylight.

      And when I show that crime rates are falling the responses are “people don’t denounce anymore”. Like in the past people really had this faith in the carabinieri…

    16. Rtard25 on

      I lived in London for 18 years, it got progressively more dangerous. I witnessed multiple muggings, armed robberies and assaults. I called the police many times when it happened. Besides the attitude on the phone from the police, and the indifference, they never fucking showed up and three months later you’d get a follow up that they made a note of the “incident”.

    17. DiMaRi13 on

      I’ve been at least once a year to London in the last years. Never had a single issue, does it make it the most safe? No but not as dangerous as the city gets depicted. The same can be said of Rome or any other big city.

    18. VisMortis on

      We need a LOT more factual PSAs and a LOT less doom posting shorts and tiktoks.

    19. Kaishidow on

      As a french I’ll take anything to hate on the brits (and vice versa)

    20. Reflector123 on

      Only problem with London is its too big.
      Takes ages to get anywhere.
      But its also a fantastic city. 

    21. X0AN on

      Reform voters will believe anything but the truth.

      Doesn’t matter how many Londoners say London is okay.

    22. BlurryBigfoot74 on

      In America they tend to focus on “Democratic cities” because once they focus on “Democratic states” it all falls apart. Democratic states are all doing better on nearly every measure of life than Republican States.

      Cities have more crime than rural areas. Creating a false narrative around a few horrible stories as examples is enough evidence for most.

    23. BatChestBot on

      England being the country of stabbing was a meme like even 10 years ago, no idea why they are comparing some random 2020-24 to 2025 twitter posts, its not like the shanking meme is something new.

    24. cowauthumbla on

      I literally just got back today from a week of traveling around London.
      We walked around a lot of places in the city.
      Of course, just like the alt-right pages say, we got robbed five times and were forced to accept Sharia law several times.
      (lol)

      In reality, it’s all such nonsense that it’s not even worth writing about.

      And yeah, based on my personal impression, London feels much safer for a foreigner than Warsaw.

    25. Zorklunn on

      More social engineering to con people into trading their rights for the illusion of security.

    26. rscarrab on

      Don’t ban/regulate Twitter? Expect more of this BS. Thanks for finally catching up, though can we do something about it now please?

    28. newTween on

      I never have been in London so can’t confirm but in my company (in Poland) there are two guys from London. They told me they moved to Warsaw because they had enough of shit in London. Both of then said they don’t want go back in next 10 years.

    30. Nuclear_Geek on

      I’m a regular visitor to London. I don’t think it’s dangerous. I’ve neither experienced nor witnessed anything to the contrary.

    31. WorldApprehensive705 on

      Also a reminder that the left also had their part to play to an extent. I remember at some point in 2010s, Germans and Swedes were trying to censor crimes committed by asylum seekers. Sweden even stopped sharing images or names of wanted men (you may guess why)

      This also contributes to the idea that “the establishment” are out there manipulating you, come to the social media to get the real news.

      Many many problems we are facing today have roots in either economic inequality and/or overhanded tactics of the left previously

    32. nicholasknickerbckr on

      This is the same justification used to assert authoritarian federal occupation of liberal American cities: Minneapolis, DC, Chicago, LA, Portland. The notable thing to me is the astounding leaps inflammatory posts have made on X since Musk’s takeover. And the surprise that they don’t even need foreign bots to push this garbage anymore. They are literally skewing the algorithm to incite civil unrest if not war for their own ends. If we don’t get social media companies under control soon they will be our demise or at least an enormous contributor.

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