> A NEW €100m critical care unit for the Rotunda Hospital has been denied planning permission by An Coimisiún Pleanála due to a small number of objections.
> The new building was to include 80 additional hospital rooms and a new operating theatre.
> Planning permission for the project was initially granted by Dublin City Council, however it went to an appeal, which An Coimisiún Pleanála today upheld.
> The commission wrote in its decision order that it agreed with appellants that the current proposal to demolish the existing outpatients building and replace it with a four-storey critical care wing would not protect the architectural design of Parnell square.
> A senior source has told The Journal that the decision is a “kick in the teeth”.
> Senior staff including the Master of the Rotunda, Prof Sean Daly, and the Clinical Director Vicky O’Dwyer wrote to staff to inform them of the decision.
> “This is incredibly disappointing news for us all, but most importantly for the families that we serve,” they said.
> They also said that they had been in meeting with stakeholders all afternoon to explore “every avenue open to us” to deal with this “blow” to their “plans for the future of the Rotunda Hospital on Parnell Square.
> The project was planned for the western side of Parnell Square.
> Last year Prof Sean Daly urged the Government to review the planning process in regards to healthcare-related infrastructure at the time that the application went to an appeal after conservation groups objected.
> The Irish Times reported at the start of last year that he had written a letter to the Health Minister Jennifer Carroll MacNeill in which he said that while he understood her influence was limited when it came to planning matters, when it comes to vital healthcare services, “alternative solutions need to be considered”.
> He said that the new wing was essential locally and nationally for the provision of high-quality pregnancy-related and neonatal intensive care.
> Conservation groups including the Dublin Civic Trust and An Taisce argued that the new wing would damage the 18th century city-centre square and the long-term prospects for regeneration once the hospital eventually moved to Blanchardstown under long-term plans.
> The new hospital would have provided resources to assist medics in treating the most vulnerable cohort treated within our healthcare system, neonatal babies.
> Plans included single facility rooms for infants, which none of the current Dublin hospitals treating this cohort have access to.
> A source familiar with the plans for the hospital this evening said that single rooms better enable medics to manage outbreaks during RSV and influenza season.
> They said that in older hospital buildings, parents are sometimes separated from children while they are sick because of layout constraints rather than medical need.
> The source said that the new single room capacity is vital for the future neonatal care nationally.
> They added that high risk mothers would have benefited from the new building also, as the current facilities for their care at the Rotunda need “significant improvement”.
BenderRodriguez14 on
The right to object needs to be removed entirely at this point, and ACP disbanded. They are not fit for purpose, nor are interested in being.
Significant_Pop_5337 on
Jesus wept. Can the govt not put some power behind making sure such important works get approved? I know they could but they won’t
hmmm_ on
Jesus Christ, just get rid of planning.
TomRuse1997 on
Fucking grim
PoppedCork on
I cannot fathom this decison
RealDealMrSeal on
That is ridiculous. Literally endangering infant and mother’s life’s for a fucking building
AbbreviationsHot3579 on
The banality of evil.
berenandluthian31121 on
Seems like an opportunity for the government to actually govern and approve this by an act of the Dail. No EU related issues, just architectural considerations. Has all the right optics with health infrastructure and a narrow refusal.
AbbreviationsHot3579 on
This country hates women.
snazzydesign on
It’s mad, IPAS centres across the country with out the need for planning, or consultation with the public – and we can’t get a hospital for the citizens approved – this is grim
General_Z0 on
Would not protect the architectural design of Parnell Square, the junkie ridden hole that it is. That’s way more important than mothers and their babies, of course.
No_Influence2520 on
What an utter load of shite, these facilities are desperately needed and the reasons for denial when what is to be gained is so substantial- farcical
Fantastic-Math-5113 on
This bit strikes me:
“Conservation groups including the Dublin Civic Trust and An Taisce argued that the new wing would damage the 18th century city-centre square and the long-term prospects for regeneration once the hospital eventually moved to Blanchardstown under long-term plans.”
Given how the National Children’s Hospital is going, do they really think the oldest maternity hospital in the world is going to move out to some new pie-in-the-sky site any time soon?
0ggiemack on
I mean, Limerick needs another hospital and has done for the last 20 years.
Hopefully they realise that there’s more need for it elsewhere in the country
LaikSure on
… and I was just getting comfortable with the idea of having my baby in Dublin 😳😳
significantrisk on
Jesus just make new buildings look like the old shitty ones they replace and these objections vanish. Not everything needs to look like modern concrete lego, what matters is the inside of the building.
tipp77 on
My Daughter was born in the Rotunda 18months ago. The staff were amazing and my wife had all her prenatal scans etc there.
Parnell Square is a shithole and I look forward to seeing how it will be regenerated now this isnt going ahead
sureyouknowurself on
> would not protect the architectural design of Parnell square
But fuck peoples lives right.
Lord_of_Blackhaven on
This is not a serious country.
Neat_Expression_5380 on
This shouldn’t be allowed. We need this. The women of Ireland need this.
RomfordWellington on
Can all these Joycean dickheads who seem to want to preserve anything older than a 1970s Dublin corporation pebbledash just take a step back from the brink and realise how much they’ve actually turned Dublin into a kip?
I’m not young, I’m in my 36th year and all through my life, as well as all my parents’ and grandparents’ lives – the north inner city has been robbed of meaningful regeneration due to these people.
The Southern Georgian core never needed it because as soon as the state cemented itself around Merrion Square, a lot of the state bodies also opened up around Dublin 2 and it looked after itself (albeit with large stage handouts).
The north Georgian core was tenements from the act of union right up to the slum clearances, and even then it went to a different form of tenement with bedsits to students and foreigners right up to the present day.
Aside from a few streets (Henrietta Street and parts of North Great George’s Street), every single other street is in shit. It’s hard to overstate how depressing it is walking up somewhere like Charles Street Great or Buckingham Street or even up around Bolton Street.
And guess what? It’ll never get better. Never ever. It simply costs too much now to try and retrofit these old gaffs into anything with modern ventilation requirements, CAT6 wiring, insulation and LEED certification, fire safety and accessibility requirements and all the other things that are both a bit of a pain in the hole when it comes to regulation but it’s also what employees, residents, customers, service users all come to expect in a building these days – which is absolutely there right.
And it’s heartbreaking because we need that space, as a city. We’re building big tall buildings out in the middle of nowhere in places beyond Saggart and Cherrywood and we have people commuting ultra long journeys – and we have this entire crumbling core in our city centre – some of which was literally bombed by the Nazis back in the 1940s and barely rebuilt – and we just leave it like that because some pricks on a board who play dress up every June in Davy Byrne’s think that we should leave it just as everything was.
beadel85 on
Why were the infants applying for planning permission?
Daybreakgo on
The people who protested should waive their rights to hospital care.
tubbymaguire91 on
Why are bad actors so easily able to stonewall critical life saving projects.
lispolerbear on
The running joke is An Taisce is Irish for the objector and it is always true. Why anyone serious give these clowns a platform is beyond me.
Willing-Departure115 on
Absolute cnuts blocking this, and absolute useless fucking eejits in government who haven’t broken the back of the planning system.
Every year this is delayed will mean babies who need vital care being looked after in an inappropriate setting. Every now and again, that will kill a baby.
But sure we’ll wring our hands and do nothing about it, really.
NocturneFogg on
I’m not quite sure that Dublin is in the luxurious position of being able to pontificate about Georgian architecture Vs massively needed hospital facilities tbh. You’d swear we’d all the time in the world and load of infrastructure…
MAVERICK910 on
Can you really keep a straight face and call this a housing crisis when you have done nothing to reform planning in this country to meet its needs for the future?
Why isn’t planning completely digitised?
Why do appeals take years?
One would assume a “crisis” would suggest all hands on deck?
so why haven’t they hired an army of civil servants to speed up this process?
Why is there a glacial pace in building infrastructure?
Crisis?
It’s Gaslighting
Adventurous-Tax512 on
Nimby scum
Careless_Cicada9123 on
>the current proposal to demolish the existing outpatients building and replace it with a four-storey critical care wing would not protect the architectural design of Parnell square
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> A NEW €100m critical care unit for the Rotunda Hospital has been denied planning permission by An Coimisiún Pleanála due to a small number of objections.
> The new building was to include 80 additional hospital rooms and a new operating theatre.
> Planning permission for the project was initially granted by Dublin City Council, however it went to an appeal, which An Coimisiún Pleanála today upheld.
> The commission wrote in its decision order that it agreed with appellants that the current proposal to demolish the existing outpatients building and replace it with a four-storey critical care wing would not protect the architectural design of Parnell square.
> A senior source has told The Journal that the decision is a “kick in the teeth”.
> Senior staff including the Master of the Rotunda, Prof Sean Daly, and the Clinical Director Vicky O’Dwyer wrote to staff to inform them of the decision.
> “This is incredibly disappointing news for us all, but most importantly for the families that we serve,” they said.
> They also said that they had been in meeting with stakeholders all afternoon to explore “every avenue open to us” to deal with this “blow” to their “plans for the future of the Rotunda Hospital on Parnell Square.
> The project was planned for the western side of Parnell Square.
> Last year Prof Sean Daly urged the Government to review the planning process in regards to healthcare-related infrastructure at the time that the application went to an appeal after conservation groups objected.
> The Irish Times reported at the start of last year that he had written a letter to the Health Minister Jennifer Carroll MacNeill in which he said that while he understood her influence was limited when it came to planning matters, when it comes to vital healthcare services, “alternative solutions need to be considered”.
> He said that the new wing was essential locally and nationally for the provision of high-quality pregnancy-related and neonatal intensive care.
> Conservation groups including the Dublin Civic Trust and An Taisce argued that the new wing would damage the 18th century city-centre square and the long-term prospects for regeneration once the hospital eventually moved to Blanchardstown under long-term plans.
> The new hospital would have provided resources to assist medics in treating the most vulnerable cohort treated within our healthcare system, neonatal babies.
> Plans included single facility rooms for infants, which none of the current Dublin hospitals treating this cohort have access to.
> A source familiar with the plans for the hospital this evening said that single rooms better enable medics to manage outbreaks during RSV and influenza season.
> They said that in older hospital buildings, parents are sometimes separated from children while they are sick because of layout constraints rather than medical need.
> The source said that the new single room capacity is vital for the future neonatal care nationally.
> They added that high risk mothers would have benefited from the new building also, as the current facilities for their care at the Rotunda need “significant improvement”.
The right to object needs to be removed entirely at this point, and ACP disbanded. They are not fit for purpose, nor are interested in being.
Jesus wept. Can the govt not put some power behind making sure such important works get approved? I know they could but they won’t
Jesus Christ, just get rid of planning.
Fucking grim
I cannot fathom this decison
That is ridiculous. Literally endangering infant and mother’s life’s for a fucking building
The banality of evil.
Seems like an opportunity for the government to actually govern and approve this by an act of the Dail. No EU related issues, just architectural considerations. Has all the right optics with health infrastructure and a narrow refusal.
This country hates women.
It’s mad, IPAS centres across the country with out the need for planning, or consultation with the public – and we can’t get a hospital for the citizens approved – this is grim
Would not protect the architectural design of Parnell Square, the junkie ridden hole that it is. That’s way more important than mothers and their babies, of course.
What an utter load of shite, these facilities are desperately needed and the reasons for denial when what is to be gained is so substantial- farcical
This bit strikes me:
“Conservation groups including the Dublin Civic Trust and An Taisce argued that the new wing would damage the 18th century city-centre square and the long-term prospects for regeneration once the hospital eventually moved to Blanchardstown under long-term plans.”
Given how the National Children’s Hospital is going, do they really think the oldest maternity hospital in the world is going to move out to some new pie-in-the-sky site any time soon?
I mean, Limerick needs another hospital and has done for the last 20 years.
Hopefully they realise that there’s more need for it elsewhere in the country
… and I was just getting comfortable with the idea of having my baby in Dublin 😳😳
Jesus just make new buildings look like the old shitty ones they replace and these objections vanish. Not everything needs to look like modern concrete lego, what matters is the inside of the building.
My Daughter was born in the Rotunda 18months ago. The staff were amazing and my wife had all her prenatal scans etc there.
Parnell Square is a shithole and I look forward to seeing how it will be regenerated now this isnt going ahead
> would not protect the architectural design of Parnell square
But fuck peoples lives right.
This is not a serious country.
This shouldn’t be allowed. We need this. The women of Ireland need this.
Can all these Joycean dickheads who seem to want to preserve anything older than a 1970s Dublin corporation pebbledash just take a step back from the brink and realise how much they’ve actually turned Dublin into a kip?
I’m not young, I’m in my 36th year and all through my life, as well as all my parents’ and grandparents’ lives – the north inner city has been robbed of meaningful regeneration due to these people.
The Southern Georgian core never needed it because as soon as the state cemented itself around Merrion Square, a lot of the state bodies also opened up around Dublin 2 and it looked after itself (albeit with large stage handouts).
The north Georgian core was tenements from the act of union right up to the slum clearances, and even then it went to a different form of tenement with bedsits to students and foreigners right up to the present day.
Aside from a few streets (Henrietta Street and parts of North Great George’s Street), every single other street is in shit. It’s hard to overstate how depressing it is walking up somewhere like Charles Street Great or Buckingham Street or even up around Bolton Street.
And guess what? It’ll never get better. Never ever. It simply costs too much now to try and retrofit these old gaffs into anything with modern ventilation requirements, CAT6 wiring, insulation and LEED certification, fire safety and accessibility requirements and all the other things that are both a bit of a pain in the hole when it comes to regulation but it’s also what employees, residents, customers, service users all come to expect in a building these days – which is absolutely there right.
And it’s heartbreaking because we need that space, as a city. We’re building big tall buildings out in the middle of nowhere in places beyond Saggart and Cherrywood and we have people commuting ultra long journeys – and we have this entire crumbling core in our city centre – some of which was literally bombed by the Nazis back in the 1940s and barely rebuilt – and we just leave it like that because some pricks on a board who play dress up every June in Davy Byrne’s think that we should leave it just as everything was.
Why were the infants applying for planning permission?
The people who protested should waive their rights to hospital care.
Why are bad actors so easily able to stonewall critical life saving projects.
The running joke is An Taisce is Irish for the objector and it is always true. Why anyone serious give these clowns a platform is beyond me.
Absolute cnuts blocking this, and absolute useless fucking eejits in government who haven’t broken the back of the planning system.
Every year this is delayed will mean babies who need vital care being looked after in an inappropriate setting. Every now and again, that will kill a baby.
But sure we’ll wring our hands and do nothing about it, really.
I’m not quite sure that Dublin is in the luxurious position of being able to pontificate about Georgian architecture Vs massively needed hospital facilities tbh. You’d swear we’d all the time in the world and load of infrastructure…
Can you really keep a straight face and call this a housing crisis when you have done nothing to reform planning in this country to meet its needs for the future?
Why isn’t planning completely digitised?
Why do appeals take years?
One would assume a “crisis” would suggest all hands on deck?
so why haven’t they hired an army of civil servants to speed up this process?
Why is there a glacial pace in building infrastructure?
Crisis?
It’s Gaslighting
Nimby scum
>the current proposal to demolish the existing outpatients building and replace it with a four-storey critical care wing would not protect the architectural design of Parnell square