A Monaco Francia e Germania presentano due visioni dell’Europa mentre Rubio vuole ‘costruire un nuovo secolo occidentale’
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2026/02/14/in-munich-france-and-germany-present-two-visions-for-europe-while-rubio-wants-to-build-a-new-western-century_6750483_4.html
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Why are we letting this trash travel to the EU at all?
Excerpts:
>**Emmanuel Macron urged Europe on Friday to take pride in itself in the face of the Trump administration’s repeated attacks. While highlighting European values, Friedrich Merz reiterated his commitment to the transatlantic relationship.**
>[…]The secretary of state described, as Vance had done a year earlier, the West as plagued by two scourges, “mass migration” and “deindustrialization,” which must be fought in order to restore pride to a Western civilization in peril. “We have imposed energy policies on ourselves that are impoverishing our people,” explained Rubio, denouncing a “world without borders” that threatens “the cohesion of our societies,” while defending himself against any xenophobia or “hatred” towards foreigners. Trump’s United States, he said, is fighting a fierce battle against the supposed decline of the West. “While we are prepared, if necessary, to do this alone, it is our preference and it is our hope to do this together with you, our friends here in Europe,” he proclaimed from Munich.
Shortly before leaving Washington for Germany, Rubio told a small group of journalists: “The old world is gone (…) and we live in a new era in geopolitics.” Speaking in Munich on Saturday, he declared enthusiastically that the US and Europe would “move forward to rebuild,” to applause from the audience.[…]
>But the two European leaders, whose relationship has cooled in recent weeks due to repeated disagreements, hold differing visions for the future of Europe and its relationship with the US amid global turmoil. France consistently advocates for a sovereign Europe invested in “strategic autonomy,” a term coined by Macron in 2017. The German chancellor, meanwhile, has argued for a middle path: strengthening the European Union’s independence while maintaining its historic ties to the US.
“The reorganization of the world by major powers is happening faster and more profoundly than we can strengthen ourselves,” the German leader said, adding that he was not convinced by the instinctive calls for Europe to abandon the US as a partner, though he understood the unease and doubts expressed in such demands. Yet “they ignore hard geopolitical realities in Europe and they underestimate the potential that our partnership with the US continues to have, despite all the difficulties that exist.”
The German chancellor, who, on the night of the February 23, 2025, elections, said he wanted to see Europe achieve “gradually true independence from the United States,” now tempered these ambitions for emancipation. The “absolute priority is to strengthen Europe within NATO,” but also to “rebuild” a transatlantic partnership, even at the cost of more frequent disagreements, “as long as we are not in a position to guarantee our own security,” he said.
I listened to his speech and ea quite weirded out by it. I am guessing most people have very different problems with the US but to me when Americans speak of how they are inheritors of Europes culture feel like British non white people talking about how their ancestors have been present since antiquity.
Rubio has just come over to invite Europe to be America’s vassals. That’s one to keep in the back pocket if we’re ever truly fucked. But in the meantime, I doubt anyone expects us to sign up to that for the foreseeable.
Besides which, maybe America needs a few years being friendless to reset itself to reality. These offers will no doubt improve as it does. I still don’t think we should ever team up again outside of some existential crisis though.
Rubio’s speech was basically an abusive partner:
“it’s your fault, but if you say sorry and do as we say we can be together again”
There was soooo much BS.
Starting with fossil fuels (exporter says to large importers to use more oil).
Through Ukraine (yeah, peace through negotiations, we are yet to see russia making any concession)
To him saying that they want strong EU, where what they are doing and saying is that they want want fragmentet Europe and theya re actively trying to do it.
The one that doesn’t subsidize us to China is the correct one.
Disagree all you want.
if Europeans keep bending over for the Americans, isn’t this American style diplomacy working (with Europe specifically?). maybe it has backfired with other US diplomatic engagements, but at the end of the day, the Europeans are keen to bend the knee, and the US gets to keep doing what it wants
A new Western century without the US. Excluded by their own choices and actions.
He can build himself a slightly taller box to stand on. I’m sure crawling in and out of Trumpstein’s ass would be easier then.
Everyone is making deals to be less reliant/dependent on the American market and these morons come to Munich, again, to gaslight us again.
in-fucking-credible.
They expect us to be friendly when their plan to “make America great again” repose on the fact that the EU should buy everything from the U.S. market at the expense of our own market?
I think the thing to understand here is that by a “new Western century” he means the establishment of a conservative white (or whitish) Christian US dominated block that excludes folks who do not meet those criteria from membership. This block will tolerate existing minority populations — other than Muslims who are to be re-migrated — but folks who do not meet these criteria will be second class citizens with limited participatory rights in society. Countries in the block — other than the US — will notionally have sovereignty but as the Clash said about free speech “just as long as you don’t try it.”
Merz is still suffering from withdrawal effects. Macron is fed up with it. Europe is still undecided, but it will take a stance. At some point even Merz is going to realise that betting on a losing, fork tongued horse makes no sense.
Rubio speech was laughable… always saying “we” how can these people show up in Europe and talk about “we” when they do the opposite? Tarrifs, Greenland, Ukraine, etc… get your s*** together in your country and after that we can talk.
Empty vessels make the most noise
Your boss is a sociopath so it doesn’t matter what you say.
You know what Rubio can do.
I‘m good, I’ll pick Canada as my most important North American ally. Thanks, Marco, but no thanks!
The 21st Century will be another american century
They can say whatever they want, im done with them!
I hope Europe doesn’t fall for any of this bullshit. The US can’t be trusted. They want to blow up the old world order to install Trump or some other fascist at the top. His whole speech sounds like something from an abusive ex. It’s time to move on without the Americans.
In my humble opinion Marco Rubio cam f*** off. Europe doesn’t need the United States, no country needs a so called ally ruled by a perverted and fickle old emperor who changes his mind more often than he changes his underpants.
Fix Russia by winning and stop bullying the west. After that we should talk
Keep boycotting us as much as you can
Don’t listen to anything Rubio says, he has absolutely no authority in the administration.
I think he’s only kept around so the rest can humiliate him.
Sod off Rubio.