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    Von der Leyen: Se 27 stati non si mettono d’accordo sull’Unione del mercato dei capitali, andrò avanti con 9 stati [Two-speed Europe]

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    1. goldstarflag on

      Context: 

      > 19 states are in favor of the Capital Market Union.

      > Von der Leyen talks about *at least* 9 states because that is the minimum to move forward according to EU rules. But it’s likely that many more will join.

    4. miniocz on

      I mean – that is one of the main things dragging EU behind. 

    5. person1549 on

      I hope our politicians dont mess this up, i hope my country can be integrated from the get go this time, instead of joining later.

    6. Jazzlike_Painter_118 on

      Fuck yeah, this is amazing.

      P.S. Watch all the accounts that say EU is only red-tape complain about “leaving behind” now that things get done.

      P.S.2 Nobody is behind since they can choose to be in or not.

    7. goldstarflag on

      Federation of the willing! That is the way. It’s how the EU has always worked; with a core group advancing in terms of integration and other joining later. It’s the best of all worlds. The Capital Market Union would also make the Fiscal Union much more realistic as the logical next step.

    8. EndeLarsson on

      Will be just fine. Like with EUR different speeds of adoption.

    9. ilovetobeaweasel on

      Can we somehow dissolve the union, start a No Orban club? It worked for the Stonecutters

    11. Shirolicious on

      Nothing wrong with that. We should probably solve more issues like that. Just go with whoever does want to do it. And if the idea is really good, others will follow anyway because being left out hurts their own interests often anyway. Atleast true for this particular item.

    14. GiOvY_ on

      i don’t trust at all, especially after what macron said about free speech.how wonderful to become the new chinese federation, no libertè no égalité no fraternité i call you fascist alè

    16. LouNebulis on

      how many years will take for the EU to do anything at all? I’ve seen many talks after Trump did his stuff but the EU is slow, very slow, if it wants to be relevant it needs to improve pace…

    17. GhostofBallersPast on

      What does this actually entail? If it’s such a great idea why hasn’t it already been implemented?

    18. pint_baby on

      I think fucking slowing down. More on phone votes. My god.

    19. d1722825 on

      I don’t think a two (or more) speed EU is a good plan. It will just result in an even more segmented EU, even more differences between regulations, more opportunity of conflicting interest, etc. The (economy of) closest cooperating members may benefit a lot from it, but that doesn’t necessarily means it is beneficial in the wider EU (or global) level.

      It looks like in the current state the EU is stuck and doesn’t work in the way it should, but if the goal is to lower the red tape, this is not the right direction (unless companies just leave the markets of second tier countries).

      Anyways I any other viable proposals, so this may be the only chance at least parts of the EU to survive.

    20. Traditional_Sport484 on

      Remember to feed the wolves so this bitch’s pony fears

    22. ShadyMorals on

      Doesn’t seem very Union to force everyone into one direction if half don’t agree or in the total of 27 only 9 are needed to approve something. This is the kind of stuff that makes people furious with government and associations.
      The kind of speech that Orban type of guy will use to rail up the extremist.

      With that said I don’t know what Capital Market Union is or what is it about, so I have no opinion on the matter. Can someone patch me in?

    24. tortorototo on

      I like this new EU approach where the commission comes up with some idea that almost everyone agrees is good, except for some members that sabotage the efforts for political reasons. Then those members join later when it’s undisputable that the idea was good, and they’d look like morons if they wouldn’t join.

      It’s so indirect, so dumb yet so smart, so European.

    25. Wide-Consequence-847 on

      Can someone please explain? I haven’t looked into this.

    26. Exotic_Insurance2164 on

      Good. The EU should have only consisted of pre 2004 countries anyway. Very few new additions are of actual value. 

    27. neospht on

      Esto solo va a generar desapego hacia la UE por parte de la ciudadania. No sé si es el mejor escenario ahora mismo, cuando tienes a potencias extranjeras tratando de manipular a tu población. Pero qué sabré yo…

    29. 18w4531g00 on

      EU-18 come in the EU because we need you. EU-18 we don’t need your opinion.

      Perhaps we should form our own Union of 18 countries and tariff all others?

    31. okSawyer on

      Title is misleading and in this thread it shows.

      People worrying their country could be left out should actually listen to what she says. It would need ATLEAST 9 countries. VdL doesnt say it will only be 9. Could be 10, could be 12, could be whatever.

      As I personally hope for closer european coorporation I am cautiously optmistic. We need a strong and united Europe.

    32. blackdragonstory on

      Feels like the end of eu if they go on with this.
      What’s next?
      Those that arent in this group have no votes anymore?

    33. Nice-Appearance-9720 on

      mandatory “screw you guys” cartman meme 🙂

    34. nahunk on

      Capital market, to increase the debts capacity but collectively.

      Instead of… taxing where the money is.

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