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    L’inno nazionale dovrebbe essere obbligatorio nelle scuole primarie?

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    1. SEND-MARS-ROVER-PICS on

      The motion is to make learning it a part of the curriculum. I see no reason why it shouldn’t be.

    2. throwaway_fun_acc123 on

      Teach it and the meaning behind it, honestly allready thought it was. But absolutely not if its turns into similar to US pledge of allegiance being recited every day

    3. LittleAoibh11 on

      Outside of maybe singing it on St Patrick’s Day or an important commemoration or sports day, I don’t think it should be a regular part of the classroom. Firmly of the view that with national anthems they hold more meaning when they are used for special days and not everyday.

      ETA: no objection to the history of it being taught. That is only proper.

    4. Latespoon on

      Let’s not implement nationalistic indoctrination like they do in the USA.

    5. irishnugget on

      I read the headline with nervousness that it would be some nationalistic hands-on-hearts-singing-to-flag nonsense but the desire for kids to understand the words and meaning make a lot of sense. “appropriate performance” of the anthem is little bit nebulous and, for me, secondary to those two but otherwise it all seems very rational and, dare I say it, uncontroversial

    6. Quiet-Geologist-6645 on

      Yes. It’s so embarasing at any sporting event the amount of people who can’t sing along to Amhrán na bhFiann

    7. notaoife on

      Yes, it’s embarrassing how many Irish people don’t even know the *words* to their own national anthem, never mind the meaning. No one’s advocating reciting it every day it like the pledge of allegiance smh, it’s teaching basic knowledge every citizen should have.

    8. expectationlost on

      Should councillors be passing motions about what should be mandatory in primary schools?

    12. FollowingRare6247 on

      “I don’t see it as a political thing. It’s about understanding our national symbols as part of a civic education,”

      I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that in principle, it could also even help with teaching Irish at that level. I’d wonder what understanding it/knowing the meaning of it entails for them though. Beyond the refrain, it’s a call to war against the Saxons. It’s also a call for unity (men within the pale, outside the pale, abroad…), which I think is more pleasant.

    13. nettlesonbagels on

      We should learn it and learn what all the words actually mean, but we should never have to rehearse it regularly or else be publicly shamed like in the USA

    14. TheSameButBetter on

      Teach it, teach the meaning of it, but don’t make children sing it on a regular basis.

      Forced patriotism isn’t real patriotism. You should happy and proud to be Irish without having to make regular displays of performative patriotic behaviour.

       

    15. Past_Key_1054 on

      I learned it in school, so assumed it was already part of the curriculum. I see no problem adding it if it’s not.

      I wouldn’t go in for the whole singing it every morning while saluting the flag stuff though. That’s the mark of a people who are insecure about their identity. Pageantry != patriotism.

    16. Grand-Cup-A-Tea on

      Pretty sure it is taught but its not rammed down kids throats in the same way national anthems are in some other countries.

    17. Vivid_One_3511 on

      I believe it should be learned definitely! But leave it at that and not have any saluting the flag nonsense like the yanks have it

    19. Lanky_Giraffe on

      If they taught Irish properly, they wouldn’t need to specifically teach the national anthem because most people would pick it up naturally. People have no problem remembering the entirety of the fields of Athenry and I bet most Irish people know more of the British national anthem than the Irish national anthem just because it’s in a language they recognise. 

      As long as most people have such poor Irish that they can barely even pronounce words on a page, you have no hope of ever expecting most people to remember the national anthem.

    20. BadDub on

      Shoulder to shoulder is pretty self explanatory no? I’m kidding 😬

    21. EducationChemical488 on

      I’m of 2 minds. Its the national anthem, it should be taught correctly in schools. It sure would make standing in the crowd at GAA matches less jarring having to listen to a bunch of people pretend they know the words but come off sounding like a deaf choir.

      On the other hand if its some sort of thing to have them signing it in class all the time as a nationalistic thing, that gives hitler youth vibes.

      Basically we should all be able to sign it at state & gaming eventa properly but we shouldnt be using it as an indoctrination tool in schools if people catch my drift

    22. Unhappy-Avocado1531 on

      I think all kids in junior infants should get Tiochfaidh Ar Lá tattoos at the open day, before they even get a place offered in the school at an absolute minimum, if not they aren’t Irish patriots

    23. DBrennan13459 on

      If it is beneficial to the kids’ overall education and understanding of the world around them, but if it is only to fullfill some nationalistic bullshit, I have no interest.

    25. FrogOnABus on

      Probably good to teach it so we don’t have to mumble through everything between the first and last lines!

    26. Boldboy72 on

      I never learned it, in Irish or in English. I can give you a couple of lines but that’s just because I picked it up over the years.

      Everyone in my primary school seemed to have known it as gaeilge.. i must have been out sick when they learnt it or something..

    27. buckfastmonkey on

      Absolutely not. “Nationalism is the measles of mankind; an infantile disease,” Albert Einstein.

    28. ZealousidealGroup559 on

      I was never taught it in NS, which Im quite embarrassed about.

      And my kids haven’t learnt it in their NS either.

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