I really hope Labour win rather than the other two promising vibes they cannot deliver on.
Sick of slogans tbh.
Krabsandwich on
Results due in the early hours of the morning for those who are super keen on getting the result soonish. With the polls showing its a close race (all three parties within the margin of error) it might go to a recount or two. Think I will await the post mortem in the morning what ever the result the talking heads will be having a field day with it.
Darrenb209 on
This is going to be a complete mess. If it’s genuinely as close as they think, no matter who wins the internet will be up in arms. It’s just a matter of how bad and who is the most angry, depending on how it plays out.
If it’s really close enough it could go Labour, Reform or Greens, the arguments over vote splitting will fill social media for who knows how long, it’s just a question over who’ll be attacking and whether it’ll be nearly let Reform win or let Reform win.
strongfavourite on
in a 3 horse FPTP race surely reform should be favourites as the only right wing contender of the 3
if greens pull off a win without having a huge electoral machine like Labour, or the millions ££ from corporate lobbyists like both parties, and with nowhere near the same level of media support as either party, it’ll be an absolutely gargantuan statement to Westminster
Fightingdragonswithu on
Kind of want Reform, Labour and Greens all to lose (not possible I know but I dislike all of them). Need a southern by-election for the Lib Dems to win so we can see normal politics again
Ill_Refrigerator_593 on
It’s been pouring down all day, not sure if that has put some off voting.
Kqiubster on
Greens will win comfortably. Will probably cause Labour to wake up. I think the Greens actions during this election will come back to bite them later on down the line though.
Gut says Green marginal win but Reform challenge. Don’t think Labour has a shot
LurkHereLurkThere on
I believe a reform win would be disastrous because their policies and plans are provided and paid for by the same groups that back Trump and his second term has been an unmitigated disaster. A labour win is largely irrelevant, and a Green win sends a clear message to the others that far right rhetoric and socially, environmentally and geopolitically harmful policies or overly pro capitalist or stagnant policies are not wanted.
Less_Mess_5803 on
The sectarian voting trend is very concerning. To base an election of a MP by pandering to ethnic groups on issues like Palestine is not what our electoral system is about. People say the tories and reform are about populism but I’ve seen videos of today of reams of Palestinian flags and ursu music blasting out at polling status. Bloody joke. Hope labour win just to piss the other two off.
barnaboos on
Peston has said it looks like Green win, Labour 3rd.
mintymiles on
Have a lot of family and friends in this constituency. Consensus:
Greens messaging was on point – upbeat, engaging and hopeful. They managed to get a lot of undecideds and disenfranchised centre-left Labour voters, upset at the Tory lite direction of the party. Hannah was brilliant – and she was everywhere all the time. Even if they lose, I think they can take a lot from this in terms of learning and momentum.
Labour were basically fear-mongering, and framing it as Reform v Labour, and vote us to keep Reform out. Nobody really bought it and Angeliki was a poor candidate. A typical stiff, former consultant, that was unable to really connect with anyone.
Reform were not that visible. A Reform pal of mine seems to think Farage put Goodwin up for this seat, because he knew he’d lose, and he’d get rid of a competitor within the party. I don’t think Farage is that clever, personally, and that Reform have just run a bad campaign. There are A LOT of shy Reform voters though, like shy Tories on steroids. They may be able to magic up a few percentage points from nowhere.
kaetror on
Can see the right wing agitators are laying the groundwork for claims of a stolen election with the source pinned at the top.
If the greens/labour win you can be *guaranteed* we’re going to see Trunpian level claims it’s some grand conspiracy to steal the win from Reform.
The fact the constituency is 30% Muslim will just be a coincidence of course….
>Manchester City Council, whose returning officer oversees the election, has now responded, saying polling station staff are trained to look out for any evidence of undue influence on voters.
>”No such issues have been reported today,” a spokesperson for the acting returning officer says.
>”If Democracy Volunteers were so concerned about alleged issues they could and should have raised them with us during polling hours so that immediate action could be taken.
>”We have operated a central by-election hub which has been rapidly responding to reported issues during the day, in liaison with the police – who had a presence at every polling station – where necessary.
>”It is extremely disappointing that Democracy Volunteers have waited until after polls have closed to make such claims.”
From my ten minutes of research, Democracy Volunteers are funded, in-part by [*The Joseph Rowntree Reform Trust Ltd*](http://www.jrrt.org.uk/) – anyone who’s spent time in the Labour movement (I used to be a paid-up member) – know how well connected JRRT and Labour are – through political funding, policy influence and historical links dating back to 1910.
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I really hope Labour win rather than the other two promising vibes they cannot deliver on.
Sick of slogans tbh.
Results due in the early hours of the morning for those who are super keen on getting the result soonish. With the polls showing its a close race (all three parties within the margin of error) it might go to a recount or two. Think I will await the post mortem in the morning what ever the result the talking heads will be having a field day with it.
This is going to be a complete mess. If it’s genuinely as close as they think, no matter who wins the internet will be up in arms. It’s just a matter of how bad and who is the most angry, depending on how it plays out.
If it’s really close enough it could go Labour, Reform or Greens, the arguments over vote splitting will fill social media for who knows how long, it’s just a question over who’ll be attacking and whether it’ll be nearly let Reform win or let Reform win.
in a 3 horse FPTP race surely reform should be favourites as the only right wing contender of the 3
if greens pull off a win without having a huge electoral machine like Labour, or the millions ££ from corporate lobbyists like both parties, and with nowhere near the same level of media support as either party, it’ll be an absolutely gargantuan statement to Westminster
Kind of want Reform, Labour and Greens all to lose (not possible I know but I dislike all of them). Need a southern by-election for the Lib Dems to win so we can see normal politics again
It’s been pouring down all day, not sure if that has put some off voting.
Greens will win comfortably. Will probably cause Labour to wake up. I think the Greens actions during this election will come back to bite them later on down the line though.
Controversy already, “family voting” tactics reported
Gut says Green marginal win but Reform challenge. Don’t think Labour has a shot
I believe a reform win would be disastrous because their policies and plans are provided and paid for by the same groups that back Trump and his second term has been an unmitigated disaster. A labour win is largely irrelevant, and a Green win sends a clear message to the others that far right rhetoric and socially, environmentally and geopolitically harmful policies or overly pro capitalist or stagnant policies are not wanted.
The sectarian voting trend is very concerning. To base an election of a MP by pandering to ethnic groups on issues like Palestine is not what our electoral system is about. People say the tories and reform are about populism but I’ve seen videos of today of reams of Palestinian flags and ursu music blasting out at polling status. Bloody joke. Hope labour win just to piss the other two off.
Peston has said it looks like Green win, Labour 3rd.
Have a lot of family and friends in this constituency. Consensus:
Greens messaging was on point – upbeat, engaging and hopeful. They managed to get a lot of undecideds and disenfranchised centre-left Labour voters, upset at the Tory lite direction of the party. Hannah was brilliant – and she was everywhere all the time. Even if they lose, I think they can take a lot from this in terms of learning and momentum.
Labour were basically fear-mongering, and framing it as Reform v Labour, and vote us to keep Reform out. Nobody really bought it and Angeliki was a poor candidate. A typical stiff, former consultant, that was unable to really connect with anyone.
Reform were not that visible. A Reform pal of mine seems to think Farage put Goodwin up for this seat, because he knew he’d lose, and he’d get rid of a competitor within the party. I don’t think Farage is that clever, personally, and that Reform have just run a bad campaign. There are A LOT of shy Reform voters though, like shy Tories on steroids. They may be able to magic up a few percentage points from nowhere.
Can see the right wing agitators are laying the groundwork for claims of a stolen election with the source pinned at the top.
If the greens/labour win you can be *guaranteed* we’re going to see Trunpian level claims it’s some grand conspiracy to steal the win from Reform.
The fact the constituency is 30% Muslim will just be a coincidence of course….
Interesting reporting from the BBC
>We’ve just reported on concerns from election monitoring group Democracy Volunteers about [“concerningly high levels” of family voting in the by-election.](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cp8rjk02r0jt?post=asset%3Ace10c781-96a7-44f5-9d62-acc5fcefd4ab#post)
>Manchester City Council, whose returning officer oversees the election, has now responded, saying polling station staff are trained to look out for any evidence of undue influence on voters.
>”No such issues have been reported today,” a spokesperson for the acting returning officer says.
>”If Democracy Volunteers were so concerned about alleged issues they could and should have raised them with us during polling hours so that immediate action could be taken.
>”We have operated a central by-election hub which has been rapidly responding to reported issues during the day, in liaison with the police – who had a presence at every polling station – where necessary.
>”It is extremely disappointing that Democracy Volunteers have waited until after polls have closed to make such claims.”
From my ten minutes of research, Democracy Volunteers are funded, in-part by [*The Joseph Rowntree Reform Trust Ltd*](http://www.jrrt.org.uk/) – anyone who’s spent time in the Labour movement (I used to be a paid-up member) – know how well connected JRRT and Labour are – through political funding, policy influence and historical links dating back to 1910.