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  1. ABoutDeSouffle on

    >A retired Dutch general who attended last summer’s Nato summit in The Hague has claimed the train he was travelling on was attacked five times by Russians.

    >Ben Hodges told reporters at a security conference in Lithuania this week the roof of the train he was in “exploded” on the day of the Nato summit. The same thing happened at “five different places between Schiphol and The Hague and Utrecht,” Hodges said.

    >An NS spokesman told Dutch News that the two departments which would deal with such incidents have “no idea” what the general is talking about. “We do not recognise the situation he is describing,” the spokesman said.

    So, what to make of this? Are they suppressing facts or is Hodges just plain wrong?

  2. C4ndlejack on

    And these were private trains in the middle of nowhere? Surely, if a train had fucking exploded, others inside & outside would’ve noticed.

  3. Pleiadez on

    There was a suspected sabotage on the day of the nato summit. There were no trains because of a fire that was started in a transformer station.

    https://nos.nl/artikel/2572259-hele-dag-geen-treinen-tussen-schiphol-en-utrecht-en-amsterdam-sabotage-niet-uitgesloten

    https://www.politico.eu/article/train-cable-fire-nato-summit-fears-sabotage-netherlands-david-van-weel-security-cyberattack-russia/

    Very few more was released about the incident. But his recollection seems very strange considering. 

  4. thesharperamigo on

    Not sure if Hodges actually said that. I’ve seen some pretty shady sites claim he did. With video of him “saying” it, with subtitles but without sound.

  5. SeveralLadder on

    [https://nltimes.nl/2025/06/24/sabotage-may-behind-schiphol-rail-problems-cyberattack-hits-nato-summit-websites](https://nltimes.nl/2025/06/24/sabotage-may-behind-schiphol-rail-problems-cyberattack-hits-nato-summit-websites)

    [https://apnews.com/article/nato-summit-train-sabotage-investigation-dcb29f0e126512811fac4b95d7662cac](https://apnews.com/article/nato-summit-train-sabotage-investigation-dcb29f0e126512811fac4b95d7662cac)

    It wasn’t explosives, but cables stretched across the railways. Difficult to investigate, and what they found may not be publicly communicated.

    Thing is, it’s been NATO doctrine to downplay russian hybrid warfare. Partly to deny the russians the intended exposure and subsequent impact on the perceived safety of the public, and partly to not escalate.

    I think the time is due to escalate in a targeted way, like we do at sea and in cyber.

  6. Yasuchika on

    It’s such an absurd claim I don’t even know which part of it should be debunked first.

  7. CellNo5383 on

    That sounds outlandish. And Hodges always seemed clear and reasonable in everything I’ve seen him say. That doesn’t line up. Any recordings of him actually saying it?

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