In che modo la scena metal norvegese Blsck ha influenzato la Norvegia al suo apice?
Conosco i famigerati incendi delle chiese e l’omicidio di Erounymous, ma sto parlando in generale di altre band come i Darkthrone, di come hanno influenzato la Norvegia?
Not much unless you were actually into the music (I was).
toru_okada_4ever on
Besides the things you mention, very little if anything at all.
Hefty_Badger9759 on
It didn’t
Bunker_Bertil on
It kind of depends on the definition of *peak* ? What is the metric here ..
Like lots of media attention and news coverage (negative attention and/or positive attention), or when the music started reaching new audiences outside the initial “underground” movement, bands and song got into the music charts and some bands got deals with large record companies?
There was alot of (negative) media attention in the norwegian media and news when it still was underground, due to the actions of certain personalities. But not a lot of people was listening to the music, there was little attention from record companies. And they were certainly not headlining any music festivals, or had any large music festivals dedicated to black metal music. All this happened later.
naivsuper on
Seeing a news clip from time to time of crazy black metal heads learning Norwegian from time to time back in the day
egflisardeg on
Basically, not at all.
Black metal and all the mythos around it seems to be a bigger thing in southern Europe than it ever was here in Norway. My only experience of it at the time was that I sporadically saw some of the Black metal community in various pubs here and there in Bergen and Oslo, where they didn’t make much of an impression, except for the clothing they wore.
ConstructionOwn8031 on
We still, and possibly more and more, earn international renown for our black metal. So in the “right” group you almost have bragging rights for simply being from Norway .. but to my parents/grandparents who never cared for the music they may at best remember the church burnings and credit it to “stupid rock & roll”
TheVendelbo on
When there is a mismatch between a cultural impact, and a mainstream impact we usually define that as ‘subculture’ and Black metal at it’s peak was just that.
Looking at Black Metal as a part of it/a fan, I imagine it can be very difficult to understand that it hardly was noticeable in its country of origin.
Crazy-Cremola on
I would say that murder people (only one as far as I know) and burning churches was enough.
Driblus on
If you didnt care you probably wouldnt even know. Sp very little Id say.
LordFondleJoy on
They didn’t. Meh.
Vistalite_Black on
You can get a good overview from the book “Lords of Chaos.”
Notoriously_So on
Melodi Grand Prix affected Norway more.
MasterLurker00 on
Only what you already mentioned. Church burnings and murders that were linked to people in the community. No biggie
the_real_mac-t on
My question is, is “blsck” metal a typo or an attempt to circumvent some weird fictional censorship algorithm?
TrygveRS on
Varg burned down my local church lol
Steffykrist on
Unless you were a black metal fan it didn’t have much affect on society as a whole. That said, when it all went down with the church burnings and murders, there was a brief period of Satanic Panic. It died off quickly after Varg Vikernes was jailed though.
AwayCable7769 on
Well idk about affecting Norway in an extreme way, but it has made it almost impossible to talk about music with Norway being a part of the context without someone suggesting some Norwegian Black Metal bands.
I was asking r/Wales for some Welsh Folk Rock that is similar to Norway’s band “Folque”, and loads of people just gave me black metal haha. I dont mind some folk punk and folk metal too, but I make my playlists to listen to with my family, so as much as I dont mind a bit of black metal, my mum and other family members hate it lol.
So Norway is more commonly associated with it I guess? It may attract some tourism perhaps? But I dint think its loads in it outside of a tiny mark on norwegian pop culture.
Emergency-Sea5201 on
Nobody knows who these bands are.
They had 0 impact outside a few arresta and murder.
Note that in Norway the very early 1990s satanic panic was kind of real. They did kill people. They did hate society. They may have sacrificed at least one infant baby (that was born at home). They did kill at least 1 gay man.
These are just considered absolute losers if people thought of them at all.
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Not much unless you were actually into the music (I was).
Besides the things you mention, very little if anything at all.
It didn’t
It kind of depends on the definition of *peak* ? What is the metric here ..
Like lots of media attention and news coverage (negative attention and/or positive attention), or when the music started reaching new audiences outside the initial “underground” movement, bands and song got into the music charts and some bands got deals with large record companies?
There was alot of (negative) media attention in the norwegian media and news when it still was underground, due to the actions of certain personalities. But not a lot of people was listening to the music, there was little attention from record companies. And they were certainly not headlining any music festivals, or had any large music festivals dedicated to black metal music. All this happened later.
Seeing a news clip from time to time of crazy black metal heads learning Norwegian from time to time back in the day
Basically, not at all.
Black metal and all the mythos around it seems to be a bigger thing in southern Europe than it ever was here in Norway. My only experience of it at the time was that I sporadically saw some of the Black metal community in various pubs here and there in Bergen and Oslo, where they didn’t make much of an impression, except for the clothing they wore.
We still, and possibly more and more, earn international renown for our black metal. So in the “right” group you almost have bragging rights for simply being from Norway .. but to my parents/grandparents who never cared for the music they may at best remember the church burnings and credit it to “stupid rock & roll”
When there is a mismatch between a cultural impact, and a mainstream impact we usually define that as ‘subculture’ and Black metal at it’s peak was just that.
Looking at Black Metal as a part of it/a fan, I imagine it can be very difficult to understand that it hardly was noticeable in its country of origin.
I would say that murder people (only one as far as I know) and burning churches was enough.
If you didnt care you probably wouldnt even know. Sp very little Id say.
They didn’t. Meh.
You can get a good overview from the book “Lords of Chaos.”
Melodi Grand Prix affected Norway more.
Only what you already mentioned. Church burnings and murders that were linked to people in the community. No biggie
My question is, is “blsck” metal a typo or an attempt to circumvent some weird fictional censorship algorithm?
Varg burned down my local church lol
Unless you were a black metal fan it didn’t have much affect on society as a whole. That said, when it all went down with the church burnings and murders, there was a brief period of Satanic Panic. It died off quickly after Varg Vikernes was jailed though.
Well idk about affecting Norway in an extreme way, but it has made it almost impossible to talk about music with Norway being a part of the context without someone suggesting some Norwegian Black Metal bands.
I was asking r/Wales for some Welsh Folk Rock that is similar to Norway’s band “Folque”, and loads of people just gave me black metal haha. I dont mind some folk punk and folk metal too, but I make my playlists to listen to with my family, so as much as I dont mind a bit of black metal, my mum and other family members hate it lol.
So Norway is more commonly associated with it I guess? It may attract some tourism perhaps? But I dint think its loads in it outside of a tiny mark on norwegian pop culture.
Nobody knows who these bands are.
They had 0 impact outside a few arresta and murder.
Note that in Norway the very early 1990s satanic panic was kind of real. They did kill people. They did hate society. They may have sacrificed at least one infant baby (that was born at home). They did kill at least 1 gay man.
These are just considered absolute losers if people thought of them at all.
We lost a few churches