Is this really a fertility rate or a live birth rate?
Martybbz22 on
Disastrous.
Not as bad as the rest of the continent but still, we definitely need more pro natalist policies like family subsidies and a civic discussion on how to best support families.
CrispsInTabascoSauce on
Why on Earth would you need more people? We can’t even house, feed or create jobs for existing population. Everyone is openly saying there will be no jobs for you and you won’t be able to afford housing and food going forward, thanks to AI.
Why? Why do you want to bring more people into this world? You sociopathic psychopaths.
eezipc on
Myself and the wife did not want kids so it was by choice.
But with the cost of living so high now, it is so difficult now to have children.
The EU can continue with bringing in immigrants to up the birthrate.
or
Make it easier to have children.
A parent should get paid a wage to stay home and raise their children.
Silenceisgrey on
i bet if you took the house prices and compared them you’d see a correlation
1reallyhatemondays on
Diasterous.
Working families should have large tax breaks for larger Irish families.
WolfetoneRebel on
Looks a lot like the alcohol consumption curve Ireland.
Extra-Swordfish7129 on
money is worth less, so everything is more expensive
Spiritual_Long8806 on
I have one. I’d love to another but I don’t know how we would manage. My child is 6 now and I just cannot afford to not be working. Its mad really that my parents managed to have three, my mother stayed at home with us, they paid off their mortgage, took us on holiday every year. I can’t imagine being in that position myself.
whooo_me on
Fertility tends to boom when people are optimistic; have a few quid in their pocket and a few luxuries are affordable, outlook is good. Feeling safe and happy.
Little surprise the trend is so consistently downwards.
The scary thing for me is: on a scale of 0 (war, famine, disease, apocalypse) to 100 (safe, no crime, no poverty, no disease, stability), the world is nearer to 100 than 0. These are the “Good Times”, and people are still struggling.
litrinw on
I know there are economic factors but it’s also just that less people want children. A growing number of my circle just see kids as a load of work.
rustic_advice on
With the constant increasing rents, prices of things going up regularly and salaries can’t match with how expensive things getting are, also increasing amount of unemployed people in the world, Im sure this graph will look even worse in next few years.
Spiritual_Mall_3140 on
Ah lads we all need to start putting in some effort. I can’t carry us on this one.
Sweaty-Adeptness1541 on
N.B. this is demographic fertility (birth rates) rather than medical fertility. So about people’s choices and not about their health.
Birth rates are generally inversely correlated with quality of life. During Victorian times the fertility (TFR) was between 4 and 5.
GregiX77 on
Artificially induced “housing problem, energy problem, affordability problem, cost of living problem”
Interestingly enough it all happened while immigration went up.
Probably coincidence./s
Playful-Parsnip-3104 on
Prepare to be told “this is why we need immigration” by people who ignore all the data showing that mass immigration lowers fertility rates further, both among the indigineous population *and* the immigrants.
Clown world stuff.
isogaymer on
Incredible that when not pushed into a treadmill of performance for the purchase of subpar housing human being discovered how to procreate again.
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We’re going to need fewer teachers and maternity nurses I guess.
The 21 bump, guess we know what everyone was doing durning the lockdown
Jaysis we were wild during Covid
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/databrowser/view/DEMO_FIND__custom_20226664/default/table
I guess that’s what you can expect when there’s a lack of suitable housing and an overbearing need to have a career…
And if you want to see the cause……. Almost a perfect inverse
https://preview.redd.it/p0dif4wgzeng1.png?width=1201&format=png&auto=webp&s=b34c18e0bf1774642b92abbe84ba7c48d967e295
Is this really a fertility rate or a live birth rate?
Disastrous.
Not as bad as the rest of the continent but still, we definitely need more pro natalist policies like family subsidies and a civic discussion on how to best support families.
Why on Earth would you need more people? We can’t even house, feed or create jobs for existing population. Everyone is openly saying there will be no jobs for you and you won’t be able to afford housing and food going forward, thanks to AI.
Why? Why do you want to bring more people into this world? You sociopathic psychopaths.
Myself and the wife did not want kids so it was by choice.
But with the cost of living so high now, it is so difficult now to have children.
The EU can continue with bringing in immigrants to up the birthrate.
or
Make it easier to have children.
A parent should get paid a wage to stay home and raise their children.
i bet if you took the house prices and compared them you’d see a correlation
Diasterous.
Working families should have large tax breaks for larger Irish families.
Looks a lot like the alcohol consumption curve Ireland.
money is worth less, so everything is more expensive
I have one. I’d love to another but I don’t know how we would manage. My child is 6 now and I just cannot afford to not be working. Its mad really that my parents managed to have three, my mother stayed at home with us, they paid off their mortgage, took us on holiday every year. I can’t imagine being in that position myself.
Fertility tends to boom when people are optimistic; have a few quid in their pocket and a few luxuries are affordable, outlook is good. Feeling safe and happy.
Little surprise the trend is so consistently downwards.
The scary thing for me is: on a scale of 0 (war, famine, disease, apocalypse) to 100 (safe, no crime, no poverty, no disease, stability), the world is nearer to 100 than 0. These are the “Good Times”, and people are still struggling.
I know there are economic factors but it’s also just that less people want children. A growing number of my circle just see kids as a load of work.
With the constant increasing rents, prices of things going up regularly and salaries can’t match with how expensive things getting are, also increasing amount of unemployed people in the world, Im sure this graph will look even worse in next few years.
Ah lads we all need to start putting in some effort. I can’t carry us on this one.
N.B. this is demographic fertility (birth rates) rather than medical fertility. So about people’s choices and not about their health.
Birth rates are generally inversely correlated with quality of life. During Victorian times the fertility (TFR) was between 4 and 5.
Artificially induced “housing problem, energy problem, affordability problem, cost of living problem”
Interestingly enough it all happened while immigration went up.
Probably coincidence./s
Prepare to be told “this is why we need immigration” by people who ignore all the data showing that mass immigration lowers fertility rates further, both among the indigineous population *and* the immigrants.
Clown world stuff.
Incredible that when not pushed into a treadmill of performance for the purchase of subpar housing human being discovered how to procreate again.