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  1. > We conducted a rapid analysis of the language used in 21 Green Party leaflets since Zack Polanki’s first conference speech as leader last year (most of which had been uploaded to http://www.electionleaflets.org). Across 10,026 words covered in over 40 pages, we found that there was only one mention of ‘climate change’ and no mentions of ‘net zero’. ‘Environment’ was mentioned seven times and ‘nature’ just once.

  2. Cynical_Classicist on

    Because they’re no longer a single issue party but becoming a major alternative for left-wing voters.

  3. dont_press_report on

    TBF being an actual left party isn’t just about plants or the sea level.

    What use is the sea level if we are all nuking each other???

    What’s more hilarious about this type of narrative is that if the greens only talked about lavender and solar power these same sloppy “journalists” would be saying that this is why the greens are just environmentalists not capable of dealing with actual governmental issues.

    GG

  4. Yakona0409 on

    because Labour in abandoning the left have left the goal open for them to score and take all those talking points away from them instead of being a single issue climate party.

  5. PulsatingBalloonKnot on

    As mentally ill as they are, you got to give them credit for their consistency. At least they aren’t back tracking or kow towing like Keir or Farage.

  6. eldomtom2 on

    > But this isn’t the full picture. Climate, nature and the environment did emerge as key talking points in the Green’s media interviews and debates during the campaign. For instance, during the BBC’s candidates debate, Spencer linked the cost of living with energy prices, highlighting how the Greens would nationalise energy industries and insulate our homes, while challenging the other parties on donations from fossil fuel companies.

    > In other media appearances, Spencer talked about a range of local and national environmental issues, from poor air quality in Manchester, to insulation and fuel poverty – framing nature and environment as ‘every day parts of life’. She emphasised how she will be ‘really firm’ on the climate emergency, particularly on climate impacts like flooding and impact on green spaces.

    > In the leaflets we analysed, there was a clear focus on local-level green policy issues, like waste and water, including fly tipping, recycling and water companies (52 mentions); local transport and planning issues – such as bus services (19); as well as the need to protect the local environment, green spaces and wildlife (18).

  7. ReligiousGhoul on

    I understand they’re casting a wider net now, but anyone pretending they haven’t almost completely dropped the ecological message is doing so in bad faith.

  8. Weird that the loudest voices saying “what about the climate?” in reference to the Greens always seem to be the same ones who mocked, ignored, or fought them when they *were* talking about the climate. Me thinks they’re are just contrarions, at best.

  9. Bounty_drillah on

    Their messaging changes when they get elected too. The Green-led council here in Bristol had no option but to make the unpleasant, difficult choices that they’d previously slated Labour for doing.

    They’re just Reform dressed in Lucy & Yak.

  10. Wiiboy95 on

    I think it’s a pretty good strategy. Ultimately, making people care about largely intangible threats like climate change and biodiversity loss is difficult when the wolf is at the door. I’m not saying those aren’t deeply important issues, I’m just saying the immediate effects aren’t apparent every day to the average voter.

    So instead, the Greens are talking about reducing energy bills through renewable energy sources, they’re talking about making public transit cheap and reliable, and they’re talking about reintroducing green spaces so that we don’t spend our entire lives surrounded by concrete. These are all positive effects we could personally experience from these policies, but they also have the effect of reducing CO2 emissions, reduce air pollution in cities, and help preserve biodiversity.

  11. DrogoOmega on

    Well everyone complained they were only a single issue party.

  12. McFlyJohn on

    Because they’ve copied the Reform model and become a primarily single issue populist party.

    We had them knock our door yesterday funnily enough and after the usual opening “are you voting for us why not” – the chap started talking about Gaza pretty much straight away followed by Islamophobia/migrant stuff and LGBT.

    But when I asked how much is the energy price cap – he didn’t know and even his guess wasn’t close.

    Didn’t have an answer for how they balance LGBT rights with Mothin Ali as their deputy leader either actually. But left me with a leaflet.

    Tbf though I’m finding this with all the parties – the actual cost of living for families is so far down their talking point agenda, hardly any candidates seem to have any idea of what day-to-day life looks like for actual working class people.

  13. Kooky_Craft123 on

    I refuse to believe anyone that isn’t a student and/or pays any significant amount of income tax actually votes for greens

  14. vividpup5535 on

    It’s almost as if you can do two things at once.

    The environment, is not the only threat to our way of life in 2026.

  15. PayInternational5287 on

    Green parties have to fight to get genuine traction, so they bring in anyone they can: this unfortunately includes disenfranchised folk who are typically not welcome in mainstream parties because of their reductive viewpoints that are largely disconnected from actual political realities. 

    Any moderately successful Green movement worldwide inevitably gets invaded by identity-focused idealogues and their pet identity issues become the primary focus. There will never be a genuinely climate-focused party because of this simple fact.

    A constituency that is self-selected will always advocate for their own interests. They can’t look beyond these issues into the wider idea of, perhaps, having to balance myriad issues and the fact that when they are in power they will need to step out of their echo chamber and deal with people with bigger issues than identity. 

    I mean, just look at the average redditor… Could you actually imagine them being in charge of a barbecue let alone a country? 

  16. ImportantMix7217 on

    It’s so strange to me how ‘left’ and ‘right’ wing politics has become such a confused concept and term over the years (I blame the USA for this). So many people now think being pro climate change science is ‘left’ and anti climate change science is ‘right’

    It just so happens that the left wing parties and right wing parties align to these concepts right now, but historically and from a pure ‘policial science’ perspective, it’s not really a thing. Left wing politics can be extreme carbon champions and right wing politics can be extreme renewable champions.

    This whole ‘left wing is green energy and right wing is oil oil oil’ just baffles me

  17. Pandita666 on

    I want to see them balance their LGBTQ policies with their new found love of Islam. That debate is going to be interesting- maybe they can agree to put a blow up pad at the bottom of the building they are thrown off? Like stuntmen have – winner, get to throw them off buildings but also not harm them.

  18. BaBaFiCo on

    I said elsewhere that this new coverage and complaint about Greens is a bit like Arsenal in football. Years of being told they’re too soft, and now they’re playing differently it’s suddenly not right.

    I joined the Greens a decade ago because I align with their wider policies. But the media only wanted them to be in the box of single issue party. Now they’re not and the media class isn’t happy.

  19. lookitsthesun on

    They’ve clearly moved on but in fairness, almost no one talks about climate change anymore. It’s basically a dead issue now.

  20. A green government is equally as dangerous as a reform government.
    You’re kidding yourself if you think otherwise.
    The idea of denying nuclear energy in 2026, wanting open borders whilst wanting to take a “we’ll talk it out” stance to global security is quite frankly terrifying.
    Top that off with them thinking we can say say “nah we don’t have to pay off the national debt it’s all made up”.

    Reform would destroy the country but by god the greens would do the exact same.

  21. 21TomSawyer12 on

    I think that’s the beauty of Zack Polanski. He has gently made the greens more electible based on what voters are really concerned about. Like cost of living and wealth redistribution, which are left things but are of a bigger priority to the main stream at the moment.

    The environment is super important but everyone already knows that the greens are trusted on that.

    They also have to seen as less extreme by the average voter. Nuclear disarmament or completely leaving NATO is seen as very extreme by the average voter. Even voters that are soft left.

    Like I dont mind nuclear disarmament, leaving NATO sounds pretty shaky to me. Giving up nuclear power is bonkers in my eyes. But I love the current greens and would likely vote for them now as ex labour member and voter.

  22. Lion_From_The_North on

    Haven’t you heard about Palestine? The environment can wait 😤

  23. jasonbirder on

    Because they’re no longer a GREEN Party, the majority of their membership now is ex_left-wing Labour/Momentum supporters.

    They’re Green in name only – compare say Polanski, with the previous leader Lucas.

    Zero connection with or interest in the environment. The current Leadership and new membership see it as a vehicle for left/progressive politics. rather than for Green politics.

    Its entryism in its purest form.

  24. sylezjusz on

    One hopes there’s not enough audience for the Islamo-communism clown car on these isles.

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