Many, many, many years ago, when I was in the Austrian army – compulsory service back then – I was chef in the officers mess of the LVA. A lot of the military intelligence, back then at least, came from foreign newspapers, the difficult part was finding people that could read Eastern European languages.
Was surprisingly successful if you knew what you were looking for. They literally connected snippets of information to come to pretty accurate conclusions. Quite boring at times but when something could be confirmed, they knew how to party….
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I remember years ago talking to someone about this in a EU agency and they were saying the main thing they were being warned about was who they were talking to in pubs (as they were talking to me in a pub).
The tactic usually used by corporate espionage and state espionage was to target a lonely, possibly quite geeky person in some project and feign interest in them, sometimes as a gf/bf, but often just as a close friend who is suddenly fascinated in whatever obscure area of economic research they were involved in. They start chatting about it in depth, often flattered by the attention, and next thing all the info is leaked.
It’s particularly problematic there as people are often posted on secondment or are trying to build circles of friends in a new city etc.
It’s a bit unfair on people who are genuinely fascinated with agricultural policy and CAP and also think you’re gorgeous, but they are supposed to be a little careful about that kind of thing.
The other big one was people who just blabbed absolutely everything loudly over lunch in restaurants etc – it’s a huge problem in Brussels. All someone had to do was sit down quietly and position themselves in a café near the agency they wanted to find out about and just take notes. I think that’s what many a journalist did for years too.
Hairy-Ad-4018 on
It’s amazing the information you can gleam from
Public sources. Before entering politics, garret Fitzgerald was an economist. From
Reviewing Aeroflot ls published schedule he determined the number of commercial plans and from
That a very good estimate of military jets.
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Huawei work in the same building as the company I work for and I always joke with a colleague that they are all spies for the ccp. Whilst it is a joke the company itself have very strong links to the ccp and its 5g infrastructure is known to intelligence apparatus for the Chinese intelligence services
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Credit where credit is due, the IMIS picked the least-threatening looking logo imaginable, without knowing Irish you’d never assume it’s something to do with the intelligence services.
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I love the logo
AhhhSureThisIsIt on
It must have been about 2008 and in the budget they announced that the secret service budget was 1 million.
I remember thinking 1. I didn’t know we had a secret service (they’re good at their job) 2. 1 million doesn’t seem like a lot. You could barely convert a few Aston Martins to dump oil slick for that.
I noticed in the 2024 budget they got 2 million. So hopefully the lads can invest in more pens that shoot darts and watches with built in laser cutters.
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Everyone is a spy.
Many, many, many years ago, when I was in the Austrian army – compulsory service back then – I was chef in the officers mess of the LVA. A lot of the military intelligence, back then at least, came from foreign newspapers, the difficult part was finding people that could read Eastern European languages.
Was surprisingly successful if you knew what you were looking for. They literally connected snippets of information to come to pretty accurate conclusions. Quite boring at times but when something could be confirmed, they knew how to party….
I remember years ago talking to someone about this in a EU agency and they were saying the main thing they were being warned about was who they were talking to in pubs (as they were talking to me in a pub).
The tactic usually used by corporate espionage and state espionage was to target a lonely, possibly quite geeky person in some project and feign interest in them, sometimes as a gf/bf, but often just as a close friend who is suddenly fascinated in whatever obscure area of economic research they were involved in. They start chatting about it in depth, often flattered by the attention, and next thing all the info is leaked.
It’s particularly problematic there as people are often posted on secondment or are trying to build circles of friends in a new city etc.
It’s a bit unfair on people who are genuinely fascinated with agricultural policy and CAP and also think you’re gorgeous, but they are supposed to be a little careful about that kind of thing.
The other big one was people who just blabbed absolutely everything loudly over lunch in restaurants etc – it’s a huge problem in Brussels. All someone had to do was sit down quietly and position themselves in a café near the agency they wanted to find out about and just take notes. I think that’s what many a journalist did for years too.
It’s amazing the information you can gleam from
Public sources. Before entering politics, garret Fitzgerald was an economist. From
Reviewing Aeroflot ls published schedule he determined the number of commercial plans and from
That a very good estimate of military jets.
Huawei work in the same building as the company I work for and I always joke with a colleague that they are all spies for the ccp. Whilst it is a joke the company itself have very strong links to the ccp and its 5g infrastructure is known to intelligence apparatus for the Chinese intelligence services
Credit where credit is due, the IMIS picked the least-threatening looking logo imaginable, without knowing Irish you’d never assume it’s something to do with the intelligence services.
I love the logo
It must have been about 2008 and in the budget they announced that the secret service budget was 1 million.
I remember thinking 1. I didn’t know we had a secret service (they’re good at their job) 2. 1 million doesn’t seem like a lot. You could barely convert a few Aston Martins to dump oil slick for that.
I noticed in the 2024 budget they got 2 million. So hopefully the lads can invest in more pens that shoot darts and watches with built in laser cutters.