That’s honestly depressing but not surprising. One small thing that could help is enforcing proper ID checks at every kiosk. Do schools in your country actually talk about nicotine addiction beyond cringe scare videos?
HDSpiele on
I am not surprised or shocked there are hardly any places like some European countries when it comes to how normalized smoking is. In Austria youth smoking rates are shockingly high and we already do stuff like Tabaco can only be sold in Tabaco stores we do the scare pictures and the Tabaco stores are tested regularly with undercover buyers but non of it helps because it’s just so normal if everybody in your family smokes people stop seeing it as bad. I remember working a factory job where during my shifts I was often the only person working there that didn’t do smoke breaks.
Wyciorek on
>For vapes and e-cigarettes, Europe has the highest prevalence of teenage regular users, at 14.3% of children aged between 13 and 15.
Well, bravo. Looks like tobacco companies managed to successfully pull off pivot to the new and sexy ‘e-cigarettes’ . This shit should have been just banned upfront. There was no market for it yet, no habitual users so banning would affect no one.
Deep-Rabbit1535 on
I’m from Turkey, and when I went from middle school to high school around 2013, my shock was that 95% of my class (including the girls) smoked, and they were only 14 years old. And smoking was normally forbidden at school, so they were secretly smoking in the restrooms, which smelled strongly of cigarette smoke.
Smoking was perceived as strangely “cool”, and everyone admired and imitated one another because of it.
Not smoking was so rare that some people were surprised I didn’t smoke.
Personal_Lab_484 on
Eventually it just comes down to choice.
We could ban them. And hand billions to criminals who would LOVE to run the tobacco trade.
The criminals funnily enough also don’t ID. It’s how I got my smokes at 14, from my weed dealer, who sold them on top. It was a great setup.
We have done as much education as humanly possible. No one thinks cigarettes are okay.
It’s a choice. Humans are individuals and by 13-15 teenagers are making choices too. If they go and stab someone they’re going to jail for life, if they fail their exams they’re not going to uni etc.
All I can do for my teenager is inform them of the dangers and then it’s up to them.
I weirdly think the best angle of attack is how disgusting people smell after them. Teens don’t like being icky… but banning them will just make them cool and more accessible to kids.
Many-Gas-9376 on
I wonder what the country-by-country differences are like here.
For adult smoking, there’s pretty drastic differences in prevalence. When those Americans say “everyone in Europe smokes”, you can pretty much guess which countries in specific they visited.
There’s a reason why cigarettes are especially appealing to 13-15 year old girls, not because of “vapes” but because CIGARETTES HELP YOU STAY THIN
le_quisto on
I honestly don’t understand how this is happening. I know I sound old, but this new generation is kind of fucked. From smoking to being a woman hating twat, it’s not looking great.
When I was a kid, tobacco adds were banned, sports stopped being sponsored by those brands too. At school, they got us so afraid of getting cancer and STDs that it actually gradually lowered drug usage, smoking and teenage pregnancies.
Somehow this isn’t working with today’s kids and I don’t like where the world is heading.
Zanian19 on
“Europe” doesn’t really mean anything here. There’s like 50 countries in Europe. Even Russia is sorta part of it.
Saratje on
Make it a illegal for influencers to vape on social media and video platforms and it’ll probably reduce rapidly. But the tobacco lobbies won’t permit that and they invest a lot in governments not tightening rules on tobacco use.
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That’s honestly depressing but not surprising. One small thing that could help is enforcing proper ID checks at every kiosk. Do schools in your country actually talk about nicotine addiction beyond cringe scare videos?
I am not surprised or shocked there are hardly any places like some European countries when it comes to how normalized smoking is. In Austria youth smoking rates are shockingly high and we already do stuff like Tabaco can only be sold in Tabaco stores we do the scare pictures and the Tabaco stores are tested regularly with undercover buyers but non of it helps because it’s just so normal if everybody in your family smokes people stop seeing it as bad. I remember working a factory job where during my shifts I was often the only person working there that didn’t do smoke breaks.
>For vapes and e-cigarettes, Europe has the highest prevalence of teenage regular users, at 14.3% of children aged between 13 and 15.
Well, bravo. Looks like tobacco companies managed to successfully pull off pivot to the new and sexy ‘e-cigarettes’ . This shit should have been just banned upfront. There was no market for it yet, no habitual users so banning would affect no one.
I’m from Turkey, and when I went from middle school to high school around 2013, my shock was that 95% of my class (including the girls) smoked, and they were only 14 years old. And smoking was normally forbidden at school, so they were secretly smoking in the restrooms, which smelled strongly of cigarette smoke.
Smoking was perceived as strangely “cool”, and everyone admired and imitated one another because of it.
Not smoking was so rare that some people were surprised I didn’t smoke.
Eventually it just comes down to choice.
We could ban them. And hand billions to criminals who would LOVE to run the tobacco trade.
The criminals funnily enough also don’t ID. It’s how I got my smokes at 14, from my weed dealer, who sold them on top. It was a great setup.
We have done as much education as humanly possible. No one thinks cigarettes are okay.
It’s a choice. Humans are individuals and by 13-15 teenagers are making choices too. If they go and stab someone they’re going to jail for life, if they fail their exams they’re not going to uni etc.
All I can do for my teenager is inform them of the dangers and then it’s up to them.
I weirdly think the best angle of attack is how disgusting people smell after them. Teens don’t like being icky… but banning them will just make them cool and more accessible to kids.
I wonder what the country-by-country differences are like here.
For adult smoking, there’s pretty drastic differences in prevalence. When those Americans say “everyone in Europe smokes”, you can pretty much guess which countries in specific they visited.
[**Countries with the most smokers**](https://tobaccoatlas.org/challenges/prevalence/)…
There’s a reason why cigarettes are especially appealing to 13-15 year old girls, not because of “vapes” but because CIGARETTES HELP YOU STAY THIN
I honestly don’t understand how this is happening. I know I sound old, but this new generation is kind of fucked. From smoking to being a woman hating twat, it’s not looking great.
When I was a kid, tobacco adds were banned, sports stopped being sponsored by those brands too. At school, they got us so afraid of getting cancer and STDs that it actually gradually lowered drug usage, smoking and teenage pregnancies.
Somehow this isn’t working with today’s kids and I don’t like where the world is heading.
“Europe” doesn’t really mean anything here. There’s like 50 countries in Europe. Even Russia is sorta part of it.
Make it a illegal for influencers to vape on social media and video platforms and it’ll probably reduce rapidly. But the tobacco lobbies won’t permit that and they invest a lot in governments not tightening rules on tobacco use.