Not enough give aways to the ultra wealthy for the american oligarchs?
Doc_Bader on
I mean no shit, it’s easy to cry on the sidelines when you don’t have to govern.
Once they’re in power everything usually goes to the shitter, I don’t know a single (right wing) populist party which doesn’t suck with the economy long term.
gdvs on
The US extreme right underestimate how right wing populism in Europe can’t afford to give up the social benefits. That kind of rhetoric doesn’t work in Europe. Anti-migration works of course. The rest not really.
JJ-Rousseau on
RN economic plans are very close to far left economic plans, so no wonder the USA don’t like those plans.
Long story short, Interventionism, tarrifs, raising minimum wages, puting retirement age back to 60.
Novel_Quote8017 on
I know that most of Europe sees itself as US pawns, but ffs, you could have at least tried to hold up appearances.
hoopjoness on
Trump is turning on Europe because he wants Greenland, now he’s back on that again as of yesterday:
I know it’s been obvious to us for a while, but he’s hoarding resources (see: his Venezuelan slush fund, destroying Middle Eastern oil infrastructure)
When the world tries to use less oil as he’s taken it all, we will need to switch to rare earth.
China dominates rare earth but Greenland is estimated to hold 36 to 42 million metric tons of rare earth oxides, potentially the world’s second largest reserve after China. Nevermind that it’s difficult to access, he’s obviously seen that figure somewhere and here we are.
He’s turning against all leaders of Europe no matter what political side they’re on (see how he recently snubbed Farage) It’s all ideology to him – what he really cares about is that Europe is dependent on him and his friends for our energy
DefInnit on
Sounds like the European far-right now trying to distance themselves from toxic Trump who’s probably a negative for European votes.
nic_haflinger on
Why hasn’t France thrown Kushner out of the country for interfering in internal politics? Do they not know what a total piece of shit he is?
Sacaron_R3 on
Le Pen dared to criticize Trump for the attacks on Iran, as the war (and Trump) are deeply unpopular in France. So this might just be an attempt to rein in Trumps allies in Europe.
Then again Charles Kushner might simply not understand how France works.
ahernandez50 on
Not that anyone gives a fuck for what US officials think. Or do Europeans also need to approve trump’s budget plan in advance?
DramaticSimple4315 on
There is a dissonance between what the national platform is, for “PR” purposes, and how rar right operatives have behaved in the Assemblée Nationale and in the cities they control.
They preach welfare bonanza but in actuality they govern as hard-nosed conservatives on fiscal matters.
They seem to be pointing towards the direction of a right-wing union and realignement in 2027, all the more so if Le Pen can’t run. She was the proponent of the long-successful “neither left nor right” motto for the FN/RN.
So I could be expeting a platform in 2027 that would be much less idiosyncratic than before. Of course, they will try to hide this behind their deluge of syncophancy and propaganda.
Can racism win over redistribution anyway?
conrat4567 on
This is like me saying I am disappointed that Steve in Illanois painted his house pink.
I live in the UK and it literally does not affect me at all
Spectanda_Fides on
During the 2022 presidential elections, after reading all the programmes, I still remember seeing the word “social” more often in the RN’s programme than in those of the left-wing parties.
But we must not forget that a large part of the RN’s voters are the same as those who voted for Hollande in 2012, mainly the working class. They vote for the far right simply because they no longer identify with the current left, but it remains a desperate vote, and the RN understands this perfectly.
DantheMediocre on
isnt le pen supposed to be in jail?
No_Run5644 on
Yeah like US has a plan for the economy
Brilliant_Version344 on
Why do us officials need to approve it ?
bluesman56 on
Yes and in Europe we are extremely underwhelmed by the US these days… far right or otherwise..
EbolaDP on
I mean yeah almost no country on Earth is willing to become a capitalist hellhole like the US no matter the political affiliation.
Beyond_the_one on
Got to love the US, electing a convicted felon as the Ambassador of France. He literally can’t practise law in a number of US states and committed one of the “one of the most loathsome, disgusting crimes” according to Republican [Chris Christie](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Christie) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Kushner](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Kushner)
HelloThereItsMeAndMe on
The French far right was always separate from the American movement.
OddlySuitable on
D’ailleurs en France personne n’est impressionné non plus. Nos milliardaires d’extrême droite pensent juste qu’ils vont les manipuler comme ils veulent pour leurs intérêts (les crétins parlent aux crétins).
Globalement si nos politiciens avaient quelques compétences en économie, on ne cumulerait pas autant de déficits alors que nous sommes un des pays les plus imposés.
edparadox on
Americans do not understand other countries, nothing new, then.
dfchuyj on
MAGAs seem to be very interested in budget cuts of other countries, a bit less in their own…
real_grown_ass_man on
How long would it take for US officials to realize that all populist far right movements ar full of s*** when it comes to the economy?
Trumpanomics is currently bloating the budget, the national debt, raising inflation and driving entire sectors out of the country in the US.
Miserable-Ad-7947 on
“Wait, how come you don’t want a homicidal freeforall by destroying healthcare, education and welfare systems ?”
Lofteed on
none of the people in this title have any say on how French is governed
this is nothing written about nothing probably by nobody
hype_irion on
>The National Rally has become France’s largest parliamentary party
It isn’t though? I thought that they came in 3rd in the last election?
TremendousVarmint on
I’ve no idea why a nationalist party would seek external validation in the first place, but here we are.
Omochanoshi on
Economy is, and always has been, the major flawn of the FN.
Their economic program is amateurish, at best. Totally stupid, in details.
Xibalba_Ogme on
Useless article : even _if_ the RN had solid economic plans, the MAGA crowd would slam it as it would not be “America First”
Anything else than a program hugely favoring the US would not meet their criteria
Cabbage_Vendor on
Nationalists not being happy with being American lapdogs…duh. You can’t convince your following that you’re under the boot of the EU to then crawl under another boot.
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Not enough give aways to the ultra wealthy for the american oligarchs?
I mean no shit, it’s easy to cry on the sidelines when you don’t have to govern.
Once they’re in power everything usually goes to the shitter, I don’t know a single (right wing) populist party which doesn’t suck with the economy long term.
The US extreme right underestimate how right wing populism in Europe can’t afford to give up the social benefits. That kind of rhetoric doesn’t work in Europe. Anti-migration works of course. The rest not really.
RN economic plans are very close to far left economic plans, so no wonder the USA don’t like those plans.
Long story short, Interventionism, tarrifs, raising minimum wages, puting retirement age back to 60.
I know that most of Europe sees itself as US pawns, but ffs, you could have at least tried to hold up appearances.
Trump is turning on Europe because he wants Greenland, now he’s back on that again as of yesterday:
https://inews.co.uk/news/world/trump-greenland-takeover-bid-secret-talks-4351925
I know it’s been obvious to us for a while, but he’s hoarding resources (see: his Venezuelan slush fund, destroying Middle Eastern oil infrastructure)
When the world tries to use less oil as he’s taken it all, we will need to switch to rare earth.
China dominates rare earth but Greenland is estimated to hold 36 to 42 million metric tons of rare earth oxides, potentially the world’s second largest reserve after China. Nevermind that it’s difficult to access, he’s obviously seen that figure somewhere and here we are.
He’s turning against all leaders of Europe no matter what political side they’re on (see how he recently snubbed Farage) It’s all ideology to him – what he really cares about is that Europe is dependent on him and his friends for our energy
Sounds like the European far-right now trying to distance themselves from toxic Trump who’s probably a negative for European votes.
Why hasn’t France thrown Kushner out of the country for interfering in internal politics? Do they not know what a total piece of shit he is?
Le Pen dared to criticize Trump for the attacks on Iran, as the war (and Trump) are deeply unpopular in France. So this might just be an attempt to rein in Trumps allies in Europe.
Then again Charles Kushner might simply not understand how France works.
Not that anyone gives a fuck for what US officials think. Or do Europeans also need to approve trump’s budget plan in advance?
There is a dissonance between what the national platform is, for “PR” purposes, and how rar right operatives have behaved in the Assemblée Nationale and in the cities they control.
They preach welfare bonanza but in actuality they govern as hard-nosed conservatives on fiscal matters.
They seem to be pointing towards the direction of a right-wing union and realignement in 2027, all the more so if Le Pen can’t run. She was the proponent of the long-successful “neither left nor right” motto for the FN/RN.
So I could be expeting a platform in 2027 that would be much less idiosyncratic than before. Of course, they will try to hide this behind their deluge of syncophancy and propaganda.
Can racism win over redistribution anyway?
This is like me saying I am disappointed that Steve in Illanois painted his house pink.
I live in the UK and it literally does not affect me at all
During the 2022 presidential elections, after reading all the programmes, I still remember seeing the word “social” more often in the RN’s programme than in those of the left-wing parties.
But we must not forget that a large part of the RN’s voters are the same as those who voted for Hollande in 2012, mainly the working class. They vote for the far right simply because they no longer identify with the current left, but it remains a desperate vote, and the RN understands this perfectly.
isnt le pen supposed to be in jail?
Yeah like US has a plan for the economy
Why do us officials need to approve it ?
Yes and in Europe we are extremely underwhelmed by the US these days… far right or otherwise..
I mean yeah almost no country on Earth is willing to become a capitalist hellhole like the US no matter the political affiliation.
Got to love the US, electing a convicted felon as the Ambassador of France. He literally can’t practise law in a number of US states and committed one of the “one of the most loathsome, disgusting crimes” according to Republican [Chris Christie](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Christie) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Kushner](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Kushner)
The French far right was always separate from the American movement.
D’ailleurs en France personne n’est impressionné non plus. Nos milliardaires d’extrême droite pensent juste qu’ils vont les manipuler comme ils veulent pour leurs intérêts (les crétins parlent aux crétins).
Globalement si nos politiciens avaient quelques compétences en économie, on ne cumulerait pas autant de déficits alors que nous sommes un des pays les plus imposés.
Americans do not understand other countries, nothing new, then.
MAGAs seem to be very interested in budget cuts of other countries, a bit less in their own…
How long would it take for US officials to realize that all populist far right movements ar full of s*** when it comes to the economy?
Trumpanomics is currently bloating the budget, the national debt, raising inflation and driving entire sectors out of the country in the US.
“Wait, how come you don’t want a homicidal freeforall by destroying healthcare, education and welfare systems ?”
none of the people in this title have any say on how French is governed
this is nothing written about nothing probably by nobody
>The National Rally has become France’s largest parliamentary party
It isn’t though? I thought that they came in 3rd in the last election?
I’ve no idea why a nationalist party would seek external validation in the first place, but here we are.
Economy is, and always has been, the major flawn of the FN.
Their economic program is amateurish, at best. Totally stupid, in details.
Useless article : even _if_ the RN had solid economic plans, the MAGA crowd would slam it as it would not be “America First”
Anything else than a program hugely favoring the US would not meet their criteria
Nationalists not being happy with being American lapdogs…duh. You can’t convince your following that you’re under the boot of the EU to then crawl under another boot.