I’m never voting Tory while there is even the remotest chance that Gavin Williamson will get any morsel of power.
TubeframeMR2 on
Breaking: man who said Brexit would fix everything now shocked everything isn’t fixed.
navagon on
Turncoat Tories boarding that leaky little Reform dinghy that Farage was trying to get Russia into British politics with is starting to look like it was a bad idea.
Archistotle on
Tories, reform, two heads of the same hydra and the body is ultimately cooked. Their support drops off a cliff when you go south of 60+, 1/20 of their voters in the last election have already passed on & there’s 2 1/2 years to go yet. It may be the largest age demographic, and that may be why they’re laser focussed on them; but it’s not sustainable in the long term.
Thank god the two parties are fighting amongst themselves so the country as a whole isn’t dragged further into ruin by the votes of people who won’t see all the consequences unfold.
boycott_all_rats on
You lot genuinely cannot help yourselves voting conservative
SpatulaWholesale on
Right wing parties like Reform are always hopeless at governance. They just give angry people someone to hate (e.g. immigrants, Europe), promise to solve their problems, and rake in the bribes until their practical incompetence is revealed. Then the scutter off to Bahrain or the US to retire with their riches.
Krabsandwich on
“You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time”
Nigel appears to be at the find out stage.
NLFG on
Absolutely fucking wild that less than 18 months after their previous shitshow ended that the Tories are remotely electable.
Noonecanseemenow on
You mean relying entirely on punitive policies and not offering any positive solutions is not a sustainable campaign strategy
Old_Course9344 on
Remember kids, vote for Reform and there won’t be funding for STI clinics. Everyone will be riddled with the clap.
FlaviousTiberius on
How much is losing popularity and how much is them getting split with restore though? I’ve seen the restore party eating a good 4% of the votes on some polls. Seems like the right and left are both fracturing under all the purity testing.
Fun_Firefighter5899 on
Off topic but Jesus the Independent online is painful. Ads popping up everywhere
beneath_the_knees on
To be fair, Reform have just been taken over by ex-Tories anyway that its functionally the same thing more or less. Not surprised people can’t tell the difference.
messiah-of-cheese on
Its all planned, restore has been setup to help split the vote. Farage doesnt want to be PM, honestly, I think hes just around to cause chaos.
Intruder313 on
I never thought I’d feel a bit of relief that Tory votes were increasing: but only at the expense of these neo-Nazis.
Reform: when the Tories ain’t fascist enough!
U-V on
Tories close gap on themselves. Other than personalities, it’s pretty much a like for like.
AcadiaHot3471 on
The reality is the entire youth of the right wing is turning on farage because he ISNT right wing enough.
Restore Britain has removed like 6% of the core support of Reform.
Farage, having read the tea leaves wrong is pandering in the wrong direction. He is scared to go too far right, but he is losing support for not going far enough.
If farage had gone with the pro-mass-deportation angle he would still be polling 30%.
Wart_Time_L32 on
It’s going to be labour or greens with Tories and reform behind, not great really but reform would just set the UK back another 5 years.
HatingGeoffry on
Nigel Farage should be jailed and/or fined for what he has done to this country. The blatant lies surrounding Brexit have crippled the country, he has sowed hate at an unprecedented level which has led to hotel burnings and attacks on citizens, and he is attempting to cripple the NHS to appear foreign investors. His behaviour is nothing short of treasonous. Reform is anti-Britain.
Jolly_Psychology_506 on
The bloke cosplaying as a farmer in the flat cap that literally set fire to the UK economy and made ridiculous promises on Brexit. Didn’t he promise to leave the UK if it all went wrong?
TheCharalampos on
As tories close gap? Har Har way to avoid talking about why reform is genuinely breaking apart.
g1umo on
Is this even a good thing? Or have enough lunatics left to Deform (on their own volition, to clarify) to make this party palatable to True-Blue suburban millionaires again?
Or maybe the professional class that got Labour elected is hoping the Tories will sacrifice half a million children to the woodchipper just for a modicum of tax relief?
Or did the British electorate forget what this circus inflicted upon the nation less than 2 years ago?
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I’m never voting Tory while there is even the remotest chance that Gavin Williamson will get any morsel of power.
Breaking: man who said Brexit would fix everything now shocked everything isn’t fixed.
Turncoat Tories boarding that leaky little Reform dinghy that Farage was trying to get Russia into British politics with is starting to look like it was a bad idea.
Tories, reform, two heads of the same hydra and the body is ultimately cooked. Their support drops off a cliff when you go south of 60+, 1/20 of their voters in the last election have already passed on & there’s 2 1/2 years to go yet. It may be the largest age demographic, and that may be why they’re laser focussed on them; but it’s not sustainable in the long term.
Thank god the two parties are fighting amongst themselves so the country as a whole isn’t dragged further into ruin by the votes of people who won’t see all the consequences unfold.
You lot genuinely cannot help yourselves voting conservative
Right wing parties like Reform are always hopeless at governance. They just give angry people someone to hate (e.g. immigrants, Europe), promise to solve their problems, and rake in the bribes until their practical incompetence is revealed. Then the scutter off to Bahrain or the US to retire with their riches.
“You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time”
Nigel appears to be at the find out stage.
Absolutely fucking wild that less than 18 months after their previous shitshow ended that the Tories are remotely electable.
You mean relying entirely on punitive policies and not offering any positive solutions is not a sustainable campaign strategy
Remember kids, vote for Reform and there won’t be funding for STI clinics. Everyone will be riddled with the clap.
How much is losing popularity and how much is them getting split with restore though? I’ve seen the restore party eating a good 4% of the votes on some polls. Seems like the right and left are both fracturing under all the purity testing.
Off topic but Jesus the Independent online is painful. Ads popping up everywhere
To be fair, Reform have just been taken over by ex-Tories anyway that its functionally the same thing more or less. Not surprised people can’t tell the difference.
Its all planned, restore has been setup to help split the vote. Farage doesnt want to be PM, honestly, I think hes just around to cause chaos.
I never thought I’d feel a bit of relief that Tory votes were increasing: but only at the expense of these neo-Nazis.
Reform: when the Tories ain’t fascist enough!
Tories close gap on themselves. Other than personalities, it’s pretty much a like for like.
The reality is the entire youth of the right wing is turning on farage because he ISNT right wing enough.
Restore Britain has removed like 6% of the core support of Reform.
Farage, having read the tea leaves wrong is pandering in the wrong direction. He is scared to go too far right, but he is losing support for not going far enough.
If farage had gone with the pro-mass-deportation angle he would still be polling 30%.
It’s going to be labour or greens with Tories and reform behind, not great really but reform would just set the UK back another 5 years.
Nigel Farage should be jailed and/or fined for what he has done to this country. The blatant lies surrounding Brexit have crippled the country, he has sowed hate at an unprecedented level which has led to hotel burnings and attacks on citizens, and he is attempting to cripple the NHS to appear foreign investors. His behaviour is nothing short of treasonous. Reform is anti-Britain.
The bloke cosplaying as a farmer in the flat cap that literally set fire to the UK economy and made ridiculous promises on Brexit. Didn’t he promise to leave the UK if it all went wrong?
As tories close gap? Har Har way to avoid talking about why reform is genuinely breaking apart.
Is this even a good thing? Or have enough lunatics left to Deform (on their own volition, to clarify) to make this party palatable to True-Blue suburban millionaires again?
Or maybe the professional class that got Labour elected is hoping the Tories will sacrifice half a million children to the woodchipper just for a modicum of tax relief?
Or did the British electorate forget what this circus inflicted upon the nation less than 2 years ago?