Hello OP, could you post a source for approval? thank you
gerningur on
I was not aware that the downward trend started so early. Is it because universities became more expensive?
darealmoneyboy on
I wonder why….. /s
ReyCharles_ on
Oh no!
Confusedoldtimer on
But don’t forget. They are not some dirty economical migrants to exploit the social system of free/cheap education and affordable healthcare, they are a special case – the noble expats.
SwissChzMcGeez on
You know the people fleeing America right now *aren’t* the MAGA jerks, right?
ViruliferousBadger on
Quick, someone copy all the data off their computers and phones when they enter EU borders – we wouldn’t want them to feel like they aren’t at home…
SharpPROSOLDIER on
And they will go around calling themselves “expats” lmao. They are immigrants just like everyone else.
leavemealoha on
Too bad UK is included, I would be curious on the effect of Brexit in the migration numbers
Badassscholar on
I mean, the numbers have been more or less the same for roughly two decades now.
Sammy296296 on
Has the New World project failed? Is everyone coming home?
sakri on
The kneejerk will be “duh, trumps made usa toxic”, but this trend well predates him (if source is to be trusted). What job opportunities do Americans have here? I personally tried to land a tech job in USA 20 years ago, now I’m glad it didn’t happen. As a kid, usa was this area of awesomeness with some turd stains in backward corners, but this seems totally inverted now.
zsbee on
Any data after Trump took office?
TheIncredibleHeinz on
Seriously annoys me that the colors are mixed up. EU should be blue and Trumpistan red.
BokTuklo on
A friend of the family emigrated to England from Texas. Took her around 10 years to become a UK citizen. I attended her wedding in Lymington a few years ago.
Once you fall in love with a place, and you have the will, the resources, and the talent, you make it happen. The jingo in me says that’s an American story but I know it’s a human story and people all over the world do it all the time.
MoravianPrince on
Their taking our jerbs!!!
schacks on
As a European I wouldn’t travel to the US, short or long term, even if they paid me!
Ridish on
I live in a city in the EU that hosts a lot of international workers. I have a lot of friends from specifically India and Brazil. I always thought that we (Europeans, specifically northern, and US) have similar culture and ideas. But Jesus, ppl from the US are so fucking weird when you meet them in person. In my experience Brazilians are much more culturally close to my country than most US people I’ve met.
paleksa on
It is easier to immigrate to EU than it is to US.
pipistrellouomo on
so has america been made great again or not? i’m confused.
CAElite on
Well yeah, the visa most Europeans used to get to the US, the H1B, for skilled professionals, has been all but broken since 2020.
What was previously a case of just getting an employer to sponsor you, is now getting an employer to sponsor you for a 20% chance of success. Many decent US employers have pulled out of the scheme & the ones still using it seem to only want Indians.
Oakseyy49 on
Look guys, I’m happy to dunk on the USA’s government and the MAGA morons but these people aren’t them so we should be happy to host people from a rather similar culture and hopefully they can take some lessons and use positive experiences to maybe one day the USA can become what they once were
TrevCat666 on
If it’s any consolation I imagine it’s only the sane folks who are wanting to leave.
Tentativ0 on
Other extracomunitary immigrants.
/S
Joe_Kangg on
Man, travel really took a hit in 2020, wonder what happened.
GreyMASTA on
I don’t like that one bit. I’m more worried about Americans importing their “culture” and “values” than almost any other continent.
AgenteNC on
Do remember it’s way easier for an American to come to Europe than it is for us to go to America.
MimosaTen on
The real remigration
cosnierozumiem on
Trump should tariff European tourists to teach them a lesson.
DanRomio on
Ugh, can they not?
I don’t want these poorly educated entitled fools in my EU.
reiti_net on
2019 was such a strange year .. a lot of things happened there .. wiki has a list .. it’s wild.
Elo_talk on
Brain drain, also known as the “human capital flight,” refers to the migration of highly skilled or educated individuals from one country to another, typically from developing or poorer countries to more developed or wealthier countries…
isUKexactlyTsameasUS on
– Today more Americans come to (stay?) in Europe than Europeans go to (stay?) in the US.
asking for a friend… a lot of friends.
– Gosh, it’s like 1930s Europe – escaping F____ for a better, safer future. Who knew!
Osrs_Salame on
So, central and South Americans (and Canadians) are not included?
NoRecipe3350 on
The stats still tell different stories, yes we might be getting a lot of US wealthy old hippyish types moving to Europe, but Europe’s intellectual elite are still drawn to the US by higher salaries and and academic/research opportunities. Europe still faces a brain drain.
Are America tech/ultra skilled workers moving to Europe in large numbers….?
Rough_Check_5606 on
Wow, i cant wait to see the post 2024 data
keepthepace on
I suspect people here are under the assumption that there is a sudden influx of Americans coming to Europe, but you can see that this is a long-term trend. It is not a sudden thing that would be caused by Trump.
The news here is mostly that Europeans don’t come to the US anymore and there is a lack of desire of doing that. Also, US has made immigration much more difficult, I think.
aw3edcft6 on
I believe that Americans who want to leave US are smart, compassionate and respect European values. For those of you I say welcome!
NotForMeClive7787 on
The USA was fairly attractive until recentish political developments, outrageous increases in the cost of the living/corporate greed there, crossed with growing online/social media awareness of ridiculous healthcare costs and poor levels of workers rights/holiday allowance compared to Europe. You can see why some Americans have had enough and Europeans are balking at the idea of moving there to settle down….
Huge_Lingonberry5888 on
Most of them probably 2nd gen Europeans, of 3rd gen tops. From all the “more” native Americans i know no one ever mentions that they are considering moving to EU.
mimimines on
Please, don’t
swagoba on
Imagine their shock when they meet actual public transport and free education and healthcare
BleuRaider on
Can’t wait to hear Europeans both hate MAGA and then act exactly like MAGA towards all the non-MAGA Americans coming to their countries.
The_39th_Step on
I’m hearing a lot more American accents here in Manchester. This doesn’t surprise me one bit. My best mate here is half American and he says many of his American cousins are trying to emigrate.
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Hello OP, could you post a source for approval? thank you
I was not aware that the downward trend started so early. Is it because universities became more expensive?
I wonder why….. /s
Oh no!
But don’t forget. They are not some dirty economical migrants to exploit the social system of free/cheap education and affordable healthcare, they are a special case – the noble expats.
You know the people fleeing America right now *aren’t* the MAGA jerks, right?
Quick, someone copy all the data off their computers and phones when they enter EU borders – we wouldn’t want them to feel like they aren’t at home…
And they will go around calling themselves “expats” lmao. They are immigrants just like everyone else.
Too bad UK is included, I would be curious on the effect of Brexit in the migration numbers
I mean, the numbers have been more or less the same for roughly two decades now.
Has the New World project failed? Is everyone coming home?
The kneejerk will be “duh, trumps made usa toxic”, but this trend well predates him (if source is to be trusted). What job opportunities do Americans have here? I personally tried to land a tech job in USA 20 years ago, now I’m glad it didn’t happen. As a kid, usa was this area of awesomeness with some turd stains in backward corners, but this seems totally inverted now.
Any data after Trump took office?
Seriously annoys me that the colors are mixed up. EU should be blue and Trumpistan red.
A friend of the family emigrated to England from Texas. Took her around 10 years to become a UK citizen. I attended her wedding in Lymington a few years ago.
Once you fall in love with a place, and you have the will, the resources, and the talent, you make it happen. The jingo in me says that’s an American story but I know it’s a human story and people all over the world do it all the time.
Their taking our jerbs!!!
As a European I wouldn’t travel to the US, short or long term, even if they paid me!
I live in a city in the EU that hosts a lot of international workers. I have a lot of friends from specifically India and Brazil. I always thought that we (Europeans, specifically northern, and US) have similar culture and ideas. But Jesus, ppl from the US are so fucking weird when you meet them in person. In my experience Brazilians are much more culturally close to my country than most US people I’ve met.
It is easier to immigrate to EU than it is to US.
so has america been made great again or not? i’m confused.
Well yeah, the visa most Europeans used to get to the US, the H1B, for skilled professionals, has been all but broken since 2020.
What was previously a case of just getting an employer to sponsor you, is now getting an employer to sponsor you for a 20% chance of success. Many decent US employers have pulled out of the scheme & the ones still using it seem to only want Indians.
Look guys, I’m happy to dunk on the USA’s government and the MAGA morons but these people aren’t them so we should be happy to host people from a rather similar culture and hopefully they can take some lessons and use positive experiences to maybe one day the USA can become what they once were
If it’s any consolation I imagine it’s only the sane folks who are wanting to leave.
Other extracomunitary immigrants.
/S
Man, travel really took a hit in 2020, wonder what happened.
I don’t like that one bit. I’m more worried about Americans importing their “culture” and “values” than almost any other continent.
Do remember it’s way easier for an American to come to Europe than it is for us to go to America.
The real remigration
Trump should tariff European tourists to teach them a lesson.
Ugh, can they not?
I don’t want these poorly educated entitled fools in my EU.
2019 was such a strange year .. a lot of things happened there .. wiki has a list .. it’s wild.
Brain drain, also known as the “human capital flight,” refers to the migration of highly skilled or educated individuals from one country to another, typically from developing or poorer countries to more developed or wealthier countries…
– Today more Americans come to (stay?) in Europe than Europeans go to (stay?) in the US.
asking for a friend… a lot of friends.
– Gosh, it’s like 1930s Europe – escaping F____ for a better, safer future. Who knew!
So, central and South Americans (and Canadians) are not included?
The stats still tell different stories, yes we might be getting a lot of US wealthy old hippyish types moving to Europe, but Europe’s intellectual elite are still drawn to the US by higher salaries and and academic/research opportunities. Europe still faces a brain drain.
Are America tech/ultra skilled workers moving to Europe in large numbers….?
Wow, i cant wait to see the post 2024 data
I suspect people here are under the assumption that there is a sudden influx of Americans coming to Europe, but you can see that this is a long-term trend. It is not a sudden thing that would be caused by Trump.
The news here is mostly that Europeans don’t come to the US anymore and there is a lack of desire of doing that. Also, US has made immigration much more difficult, I think.
I believe that Americans who want to leave US are smart, compassionate and respect European values. For those of you I say welcome!
The USA was fairly attractive until recentish political developments, outrageous increases in the cost of the living/corporate greed there, crossed with growing online/social media awareness of ridiculous healthcare costs and poor levels of workers rights/holiday allowance compared to Europe. You can see why some Americans have had enough and Europeans are balking at the idea of moving there to settle down….
Most of them probably 2nd gen Europeans, of 3rd gen tops. From all the “more” native Americans i know no one ever mentions that they are considering moving to EU.
Please, don’t
Imagine their shock when they meet actual public transport and free education and healthcare
Can’t wait to hear Europeans both hate MAGA and then act exactly like MAGA towards all the non-MAGA Americans coming to their countries.
I’m hearing a lot more American accents here in Manchester. This doesn’t surprise me one bit. My best mate here is half American and he says many of his American cousins are trying to emigrate.
We don’t want US immigrants in the EU.