There is a bit of a problem with some GPs in particularly just not taking symptoms seriously if you’re young. I get the impression some forget that “unlikely” is not the same as “impossible”. Seems like an excessive amount of focus is put on the elderly at the expense of ignoring young people who develop these kinds of health issues.
Historical_Owl_1635 on
The rise in bowel cancer in young people is especially concerning as it definitely isn’t a case of it being caught more, it’s just gone from extremely rare to happening more.
Which means something new we’re doing is the cause, some of it can be put down to being more overweight but even the scientists don’t seem to think that’s the main cause.
LuridWaters on
The fact that this first clue points towards rising obesity levels is about as surprising as thunder following lightning.
*Edit* Please, people, read what I actually wrote before giving your two cents.
Saying that it is not surprising that this clue points towards rising obesity levels does not mean I am saying that this is the only, or even the most important factor in play. I am simply saying that it is not surprising that rising obesity levels are apparently a factor.
FR4Z3R on
Feels disingenuous for this article to claim that 20% of bowel cancer in young people is caused by excess weight and that 80% is unexplained.
Predisposition to bowel cancer has a well characterised pathogenesis, especially in younger patients with conditions like Lynch, FAP, and MAP which make up >15% of bowel cancer cases in the uk overall. MSI and germline testing should answer how much of the remaining 80% not linked to weight is due to genetic predisposing factors.
Combine that with diets low in fibre and high in red meat/nitrous compounds and I think we can see that the number of unexplained cases is much lower than 80% in young people.
Edit: read reply below, this was for extra cases on top of existing cases rather than all cases 😅
ftatman on
Bowel cancer is presumably rising because we don’t know how to cook properly for ourselves, we’re detached from natural world and butchery/harvests, ingredients are more expensive than ever, and the quality of what we do consume is arguably not even real food a lot of the time.
We don’t need to wait for a study to show this – we know we’re drifting further from natural (except the gym folk who take nutrition seriously). We could take stronger steps now by introducing an entire subject dedicated to practical teaching of cookery and nutrition in schools to build a habit from young age. I’d say it’s more vital than say learning 2 foreign languages, or some other subject you never use much in life, for example.
Likewise, if the problem could be in the farming industry, we could also do stuff like banning the use of ANY substances or practices in farming that haven’t been explicitly approved by central government (rather than allowing everything that hasn’t been explicitly banned).
Hack_Shuck on
When I was 41 I tried to get tested for prostate cancer as I had a strange lump down there, I phoned my GP and she cheerfully refused to schedule an exam as it was “highly unlikely” at my age. Absurd
wkavinsky on
There’s likely an element to this of just generally better health in general.
100 years ago, people with a genetic predisposition to early cancer might simply not have survived to pass on those genes, to the early cancers didn’t have increasing volumes.
Now, people with that disposition survive due to better healthcare, have kids, pass on the gene, and now there’s more people getting early cancer.
It’s likely not all that’s happening, but it’s definitely something that could happen.
AcanthisittaThink813 on
Old vs Young.. not sure about that, to me it’s Time/Money.. GP- “come in take a seat tell me what’s wrong, ok here’s the cheapest tablets I can give you now fuck off”
Stratix on
Fairly certain its stress, and the unhealthy coping mechanisms associated with it.
TheMathManiac on
Still too many people:
1) drinking too much alcohol.
2) way too much processed meats
3) vaping way too much
4) Too much focus on protein intake instead of fibre. Seriously, a couple bowls of branflakes a day and your getting in huge doses of fibre. Throw in some blueberries and veg for dinner and your getting plenty of fibre.
Unlucky-Jello-5660 on
Is the clue NHS incompetence and apathy when it comes to dealing with young people?
Truly shocking theres a rise when GPs dismiss symptoms in young people until they become undeniable.
A friend of mine was fobbed off by their GP for 6 months before they went private and the skilled private doctor referred him for urgent tests and found his terminal bowel cancer the NHS had dismissed until it was too late.
Moral of the story, if you have the misfortune of dealing with the NHS advocate for yourself or have someone prepared to fight tooth and nail for you. As the NHS will kill you otherwise
infinitemagicthings on
I would agree there’s a massive problem with GP not taking it seriously I ended up going private 4 years ago because I could see the way it was heading and the difference is night and day
Mas-Vri on
I’d imagine a lot are linked to diet and all of the processed crap we eat out of affordability and convenience
JamesAdsy on
Been trying to get a doctors appointment for months. I think I even mentioned in my comment history a similar thing a few months back.
I call or even turn up and they turn me away telling me to make an appointment online. I make multiple appointments over the days online and all of them get rejected telling me there’s no appointments and to try again later. It’s a mess and I don’t know how anyone is even being seen now
Elmarcowolf on
Doctors told me for over 5 weeks that my lower back pain “wasn’t serious” and I was “after a sick note/ medication”.
Took myself to A&E and found out i had a broken pelvis.
Gp’s are becoming so jaded they are useless.
Connor123x on
My physical use to be something that was in depth. Now its a couple questions, listen to my heart and he sends me on my way.
They ignore every question about an issue I might be having and I am in my late 50s
pinkwar on
GPs ignore you if you’re young.
I have vitiligo and first time I approached a GP, after months of anxiety, it was me trying to explain my situation to him about the symptoms, issues and all that but he kept arguing that it was normal and it was me not applying suncream correctly and bla bla bla, nothing to worry.
I went to a private dermatologist and as soon as I enter the door she looks at me and says something like “ah I can see why you’re here”. Diagnosed straight away.
drewbles82 on
Under the last labour government…I found blood in the bowl, was too nervous being mid 20s to talk about it…eventually I went…first Dr, just said sounds like a bad takeaway…2nd Dr more of the same…just give it another week so how it is sorta thing…finally 3rd Dr, my regular one…I turned up at like 8am for my appointment (which was given the day before as back then you were seen within 48hrs) he ordered a blood test straight away and by lunchtime that same day…I was called to come back to the Drs…so 1ish…told some issues with my blood and wants to do more tests, 2 days later I have my prep stuff for colonoscopy and had it the following week, saw the specialist that same week and diagnosed with colitis.
Labour did a lot wrong during those two terms esp lying with the US…but one thing they did really well was the NHS…I always remember a Questiontime where Tony Blair was asked questions…the biggest complaint was people saying they want to book appointments in advance…for example…call on a Monday and book for Thursday afternoon but they’d always be told to call on the day cuz everyone gets seen within 48hrs and these people moaned about that…now be lucky to get an appointment this month, phone one in 3 weeks
MisstianoPenaldo on
I read this article and failed to find any sort of clue, just aimless non evidenced wittering about general healthy lifestyles that 80% of the time aren’t the case anyway
bopeepsheep on
I was extraordinarily lucky that my pancreatic cancer a) was slow-growing – I had the first slightly inconvenient symptoms several years before it was found – and b) that it was found at all, because I was “too young”. If it had been quicker, “louder”, and I’d experienced the same delays I’d have been caught at stage IV, not stage II.
I’d be interested in a breakdown that explains if this rise is adjusted for stages, given that I’d have fallen into a different age band if I’d been diagnosed at stage I, and possibly even a third age band if I’d limped on to stage IV before diagnosis. (My surgery was at 46, and some bands go 30-39, 40-49; some 35-44, 45-54 etc so IDK which one I’d fall in at which stage, as this is all hypothetical anyway. I do know I was ‘at least a decade too young’.) It’s good news if we’re diagnosing early and this means patients are younger and at stage 1-2, less good if they’re still only being diagnosed at stage 4.
Creative_Recover on
I feel like over the coming decades there’s going to be a lot more talk about Glyphosate herbicides usage on cereal products and links to bowel and colorectal cancer.
Glyphosates are a type of herbicide, meaning that they’re used to kill weeds. However, they are also a dessicant, meaning that if you spray the herbicide on cereal crops the chemicals dry the grains out.
This is good if you’re a farmer, because bringing in the harvest on cereal crops like oats, wheat and barley are one of the biggest events of the agricultural calendar; get it right, and you’re making big bucks, but get wrong and the losses can be devastating. The whole process is constantly threatened by changes in the weather, which you’re at the mercy of. But you equally can’t wait around forever because the plants only hold their grains for a short while before they begin to fall to the ground.
As a consequence, in non-organic crops it is common practice to spray glyphosate herbicides on cereal crops like oats to dry them out, adding a layer of predictability to the harvest, as well speeding up the general process. Organic farmers can’t do this because in the UK they’re bound by a lot of strict laws on agrochemical usage, but non-organic farmers have a lot of free reign.
The problem with Glyphosate herbicides is that they saturate the grains and when you ingest these agrochemical-bathed grain products, you ingest the herbicide chemicals too.
Research about Glyphosate herbicides many links to cancers have not been anywhere near as forthcoming as they should be though because agrochemical company giants such as Monsanto and Dow Chemicals have been going to great lengths to bury the literature because of the money they would stand to lose. They’re already facing big lawsuits over products such as RoundUp (another Glyphosate herbicide) links to cancer and these companies behave much like tobacco companies in how they operate.
My advice? As someone who comes from a family with both agricultural and scientific backgrounds, I would recommend that you switch to organic cereals where you can, if you can.
“TL;DR”: There’s a lot of industry research corruption and suppression on Glyphosate herbicides usage on cereal crops and their links to bowel & colorectal cancers.
Whatever you do, don’t blame the oil and gas companies, forever chemical companies, plastic producers, or other known harmful gases and products that make up a big chunk of our global economy/the running of it… It’s down to consumer choices, wink wink
Ironically, most people with bad diets will have, alongside less fibre (which could play a part in some cancers) more contact with foods and drinks made with these known bad chemicals, artifical sweeteners, nitrates, and other industrial things, mostly preservatives – plus the packaging itself, or the way the products is heated / cooked etc.. Ultra processed and fast food
Then you combine the fact a large proportion of those people are in low income, and therefore live in more polutted or negative environments, plus have higher % with less positive life style choices.. This could just be compounded “modern urbanisation”, and population demographic shift / normalisation of these traits we know are harmful and cause countless other issues.
Having said this, unless the effect is culminating, which is why we’re seeing a sudden uptick in young people getting these cancers (as all of this stuff has been known since 50s to 70s,and well established within a decade or so I’d say broadly), the only “new” thing would be vaping I’d say; if the cancer-increase wasn’t due to attitude / lifestyle shift, but a “poison” (similar to how, on a “virgin” society’s statistics, smoking tobacco or drinking alcohol would have an effect to the statistics, becoming widespread, proportionally) – but I have no evidence of vaping causing this obviously. Neither can i directly for the surge in young people, however I can points to 100s of articles linking a lot of these oil derivatives or associated /as damaging products to known (especially rare) cancers
Ungodly_Box on
Because GPs are useless and delay the hell out of anything
Ok-Book-4070 on
Most bread has about 20 ingredients so it lasts weeks on a shelf, and thats just bread, I’d wager the shit in our food is causing a lot of bowel cancer cases.
Terravardn on
I mean it’s obviously diet. It’s always been diet. People just don’t wanna admit that because they like doughnuts and cheeseburgers, but in 100 years they’ll be laughing at how stupid we all were trying to convince ourselves it could’ve been anything other than diet.
Anything with heme iron, a proven carcinogen, is cancer’s friend. So…avoid carcinogenic food. It’s not rocket science.
One_Complex6429 on
Time for GPs to stop fobbing off patients with health concerns.
impamiizgraa on
I get downvoted when I say it but the rise of GLP-1s and the inevitable availability of them as generics in about 15 years will lead to the biggest improvement in health outcomes in modern history.
So many diseases are directly linked diet, or to be more specific the increase in visceral fat caused by our modern diets.
This will in turn mean fewer people have long term health conditions and comorbidities; they are going to change the world in a very significant way.
So make your jokes about Ozempic et al now, as long as we don’t forget their benefits as well!
misterriz on
I might not seem young to a lot of redditors but let’s just say it was a shock to receive a rectal cancer diagnosis at 40.
I’m no saint,I like a drink and a rare steak but generally my health was really good. Workout 3 times a week, jogging twice a week. Lots of home cooked real food and only occasionally eating shite.
I have to say though, I’ve had nothing but a good experience with the NHS with it, from my GP to clatterbridge in Merseyside.
Doctors appointment was ‘probably hemorrhoids but let’s just make sure with some tests’. Results back and getting a call saying you have a colonoscopy in a few days, make sure you attend it and cancel any other plans.
Then the day of being told. As I got the news the nurse had already booked mri and ct scans the following week, met the surgeon the week after, in radiotherapy shortly after that.
Since then,surgery and currently doing adjuvant chemotherapy, all done in impressive timescales. The staff at clatterbridge and the surgery team and ward nurses at Whiston all brilliant.
The only issue I’ve had is complications have put me in A&E twice and frankly the service is a disgrace. I’m sure funding comes into it, and people that shouldn’t be there, but literally the attitude and outright laziness of many of the staff that work in it are a big problem.
gizmogrl88 on
Healthcare in the UK is atrocious. It’s worse than a 3rd world country now.
30 commenti
There is a bit of a problem with some GPs in particularly just not taking symptoms seriously if you’re young. I get the impression some forget that “unlikely” is not the same as “impossible”. Seems like an excessive amount of focus is put on the elderly at the expense of ignoring young people who develop these kinds of health issues.
The rise in bowel cancer in young people is especially concerning as it definitely isn’t a case of it being caught more, it’s just gone from extremely rare to happening more.
Which means something new we’re doing is the cause, some of it can be put down to being more overweight but even the scientists don’t seem to think that’s the main cause.
The fact that this first clue points towards rising obesity levels is about as surprising as thunder following lightning.
*Edit* Please, people, read what I actually wrote before giving your two cents.
Saying that it is not surprising that this clue points towards rising obesity levels does not mean I am saying that this is the only, or even the most important factor in play. I am simply saying that it is not surprising that rising obesity levels are apparently a factor.
Feels disingenuous for this article to claim that 20% of bowel cancer in young people is caused by excess weight and that 80% is unexplained.
Predisposition to bowel cancer has a well characterised pathogenesis, especially in younger patients with conditions like Lynch, FAP, and MAP which make up >15% of bowel cancer cases in the uk overall. MSI and germline testing should answer how much of the remaining 80% not linked to weight is due to genetic predisposing factors.
Combine that with diets low in fibre and high in red meat/nitrous compounds and I think we can see that the number of unexplained cases is much lower than 80% in young people.
Edit: read reply below, this was for extra cases on top of existing cases rather than all cases 😅
Bowel cancer is presumably rising because we don’t know how to cook properly for ourselves, we’re detached from natural world and butchery/harvests, ingredients are more expensive than ever, and the quality of what we do consume is arguably not even real food a lot of the time.
We don’t need to wait for a study to show this – we know we’re drifting further from natural (except the gym folk who take nutrition seriously). We could take stronger steps now by introducing an entire subject dedicated to practical teaching of cookery and nutrition in schools to build a habit from young age. I’d say it’s more vital than say learning 2 foreign languages, or some other subject you never use much in life, for example.
Likewise, if the problem could be in the farming industry, we could also do stuff like banning the use of ANY substances or practices in farming that haven’t been explicitly approved by central government (rather than allowing everything that hasn’t been explicitly banned).
When I was 41 I tried to get tested for prostate cancer as I had a strange lump down there, I phoned my GP and she cheerfully refused to schedule an exam as it was “highly unlikely” at my age. Absurd
There’s likely an element to this of just generally better health in general.
100 years ago, people with a genetic predisposition to early cancer might simply not have survived to pass on those genes, to the early cancers didn’t have increasing volumes.
Now, people with that disposition survive due to better healthcare, have kids, pass on the gene, and now there’s more people getting early cancer.
It’s likely not all that’s happening, but it’s definitely something that could happen.
Old vs Young.. not sure about that, to me it’s Time/Money.. GP- “come in take a seat tell me what’s wrong, ok here’s the cheapest tablets I can give you now fuck off”
Fairly certain its stress, and the unhealthy coping mechanisms associated with it.
Still too many people:
1) drinking too much alcohol.
2) way too much processed meats
3) vaping way too much
4) Too much focus on protein intake instead of fibre. Seriously, a couple bowls of branflakes a day and your getting in huge doses of fibre. Throw in some blueberries and veg for dinner and your getting plenty of fibre.
Is the clue NHS incompetence and apathy when it comes to dealing with young people?
Truly shocking theres a rise when GPs dismiss symptoms in young people until they become undeniable.
A friend of mine was fobbed off by their GP for 6 months before they went private and the skilled private doctor referred him for urgent tests and found his terminal bowel cancer the NHS had dismissed until it was too late.
Moral of the story, if you have the misfortune of dealing with the NHS advocate for yourself or have someone prepared to fight tooth and nail for you. As the NHS will kill you otherwise
I would agree there’s a massive problem with GP not taking it seriously I ended up going private 4 years ago because I could see the way it was heading and the difference is night and day
I’d imagine a lot are linked to diet and all of the processed crap we eat out of affordability and convenience
Been trying to get a doctors appointment for months. I think I even mentioned in my comment history a similar thing a few months back.
I call or even turn up and they turn me away telling me to make an appointment online. I make multiple appointments over the days online and all of them get rejected telling me there’s no appointments and to try again later. It’s a mess and I don’t know how anyone is even being seen now
Doctors told me for over 5 weeks that my lower back pain “wasn’t serious” and I was “after a sick note/ medication”.
Took myself to A&E and found out i had a broken pelvis.
Gp’s are becoming so jaded they are useless.
My physical use to be something that was in depth. Now its a couple questions, listen to my heart and he sends me on my way.
They ignore every question about an issue I might be having and I am in my late 50s
GPs ignore you if you’re young.
I have vitiligo and first time I approached a GP, after months of anxiety, it was me trying to explain my situation to him about the symptoms, issues and all that but he kept arguing that it was normal and it was me not applying suncream correctly and bla bla bla, nothing to worry.
I went to a private dermatologist and as soon as I enter the door she looks at me and says something like “ah I can see why you’re here”. Diagnosed straight away.
Under the last labour government…I found blood in the bowl, was too nervous being mid 20s to talk about it…eventually I went…first Dr, just said sounds like a bad takeaway…2nd Dr more of the same…just give it another week so how it is sorta thing…finally 3rd Dr, my regular one…I turned up at like 8am for my appointment (which was given the day before as back then you were seen within 48hrs) he ordered a blood test straight away and by lunchtime that same day…I was called to come back to the Drs…so 1ish…told some issues with my blood and wants to do more tests, 2 days later I have my prep stuff for colonoscopy and had it the following week, saw the specialist that same week and diagnosed with colitis.
Labour did a lot wrong during those two terms esp lying with the US…but one thing they did really well was the NHS…I always remember a Questiontime where Tony Blair was asked questions…the biggest complaint was people saying they want to book appointments in advance…for example…call on a Monday and book for Thursday afternoon but they’d always be told to call on the day cuz everyone gets seen within 48hrs and these people moaned about that…now be lucky to get an appointment this month, phone one in 3 weeks
I read this article and failed to find any sort of clue, just aimless non evidenced wittering about general healthy lifestyles that 80% of the time aren’t the case anyway
I was extraordinarily lucky that my pancreatic cancer a) was slow-growing – I had the first slightly inconvenient symptoms several years before it was found – and b) that it was found at all, because I was “too young”. If it had been quicker, “louder”, and I’d experienced the same delays I’d have been caught at stage IV, not stage II.
I’d be interested in a breakdown that explains if this rise is adjusted for stages, given that I’d have fallen into a different age band if I’d been diagnosed at stage I, and possibly even a third age band if I’d limped on to stage IV before diagnosis. (My surgery was at 46, and some bands go 30-39, 40-49; some 35-44, 45-54 etc so IDK which one I’d fall in at which stage, as this is all hypothetical anyway. I do know I was ‘at least a decade too young’.) It’s good news if we’re diagnosing early and this means patients are younger and at stage 1-2, less good if they’re still only being diagnosed at stage 4.
I feel like over the coming decades there’s going to be a lot more talk about Glyphosate herbicides usage on cereal products and links to bowel and colorectal cancer.
Glyphosates are a type of herbicide, meaning that they’re used to kill weeds. However, they are also a dessicant, meaning that if you spray the herbicide on cereal crops the chemicals dry the grains out.
This is good if you’re a farmer, because bringing in the harvest on cereal crops like oats, wheat and barley are one of the biggest events of the agricultural calendar; get it right, and you’re making big bucks, but get wrong and the losses can be devastating. The whole process is constantly threatened by changes in the weather, which you’re at the mercy of. But you equally can’t wait around forever because the plants only hold their grains for a short while before they begin to fall to the ground.
As a consequence, in non-organic crops it is common practice to spray glyphosate herbicides on cereal crops like oats to dry them out, adding a layer of predictability to the harvest, as well speeding up the general process. Organic farmers can’t do this because in the UK they’re bound by a lot of strict laws on agrochemical usage, but non-organic farmers have a lot of free reign.
The problem with Glyphosate herbicides is that they saturate the grains and when you ingest these agrochemical-bathed grain products, you ingest the herbicide chemicals too.
Research about Glyphosate herbicides many links to cancers have not been anywhere near as forthcoming as they should be though because agrochemical company giants such as Monsanto and Dow Chemicals have been going to great lengths to bury the literature because of the money they would stand to lose. They’re already facing big lawsuits over products such as RoundUp (another Glyphosate herbicide) links to cancer and these companies behave much like tobacco companies in how they operate.
My advice? As someone who comes from a family with both agricultural and scientific backgrounds, I would recommend that you switch to organic cereals where you can, if you can.
“TL;DR”: There’s a lot of industry research corruption and suppression on Glyphosate herbicides usage on cereal crops and their links to bowel & colorectal cancers.
1. Breast
2. Colorectum
3. Thyroid
4. Ovary
5. Endometrium
6. Kidney
7. Oral
8. Pancreas
9. Multiple Myeloma
10. Liver
11. Gallbladder
Whatever you do, don’t blame the oil and gas companies, forever chemical companies, plastic producers, or other known harmful gases and products that make up a big chunk of our global economy/the running of it… It’s down to consumer choices, wink wink
Ironically, most people with bad diets will have, alongside less fibre (which could play a part in some cancers) more contact with foods and drinks made with these known bad chemicals, artifical sweeteners, nitrates, and other industrial things, mostly preservatives – plus the packaging itself, or the way the products is heated / cooked etc.. Ultra processed and fast food
Then you combine the fact a large proportion of those people are in low income, and therefore live in more polutted or negative environments, plus have higher % with less positive life style choices.. This could just be compounded “modern urbanisation”, and population demographic shift / normalisation of these traits we know are harmful and cause countless other issues.
Having said this, unless the effect is culminating, which is why we’re seeing a sudden uptick in young people getting these cancers (as all of this stuff has been known since 50s to 70s,and well established within a decade or so I’d say broadly), the only “new” thing would be vaping I’d say; if the cancer-increase wasn’t due to attitude / lifestyle shift, but a “poison” (similar to how, on a “virgin” society’s statistics, smoking tobacco or drinking alcohol would have an effect to the statistics, becoming widespread, proportionally) – but I have no evidence of vaping causing this obviously. Neither can i directly for the surge in young people, however I can points to 100s of articles linking a lot of these oil derivatives or associated /as damaging products to known (especially rare) cancers
Because GPs are useless and delay the hell out of anything
Most bread has about 20 ingredients so it lasts weeks on a shelf, and thats just bread, I’d wager the shit in our food is causing a lot of bowel cancer cases.
I mean it’s obviously diet. It’s always been diet. People just don’t wanna admit that because they like doughnuts and cheeseburgers, but in 100 years they’ll be laughing at how stupid we all were trying to convince ourselves it could’ve been anything other than diet.
Anything with heme iron, a proven carcinogen, is cancer’s friend. So…avoid carcinogenic food. It’s not rocket science.
Time for GPs to stop fobbing off patients with health concerns.
I get downvoted when I say it but the rise of GLP-1s and the inevitable availability of them as generics in about 15 years will lead to the biggest improvement in health outcomes in modern history.
So many diseases are directly linked diet, or to be more specific the increase in visceral fat caused by our modern diets.
This will in turn mean fewer people have long term health conditions and comorbidities; they are going to change the world in a very significant way.
So make your jokes about Ozempic et al now, as long as we don’t forget their benefits as well!
I might not seem young to a lot of redditors but let’s just say it was a shock to receive a rectal cancer diagnosis at 40.
I’m no saint,I like a drink and a rare steak but generally my health was really good. Workout 3 times a week, jogging twice a week. Lots of home cooked real food and only occasionally eating shite.
I have to say though, I’ve had nothing but a good experience with the NHS with it, from my GP to clatterbridge in Merseyside.
Doctors appointment was ‘probably hemorrhoids but let’s just make sure with some tests’. Results back and getting a call saying you have a colonoscopy in a few days, make sure you attend it and cancel any other plans.
Then the day of being told. As I got the news the nurse had already booked mri and ct scans the following week, met the surgeon the week after, in radiotherapy shortly after that.
Since then,surgery and currently doing adjuvant chemotherapy, all done in impressive timescales. The staff at clatterbridge and the surgery team and ward nurses at Whiston all brilliant.
The only issue I’ve had is complications have put me in A&E twice and frankly the service is a disgrace. I’m sure funding comes into it, and people that shouldn’t be there, but literally the attitude and outright laziness of many of the staff that work in it are a big problem.
Healthcare in the UK is atrocious. It’s worse than a 3rd world country now.