Tesco sostiene che la richiesta di parità retributiva non tiene conto della “realtà economica”
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because it does.
equal pay should be 2 people doing the same job its simple really
This old chestnut again
Both positions are open to everyone
The shop floor is full of women, who knows why
The warehouse, with its cold environment, heavy lifting and handling and potentially far more dangerous, is full of men
The job with harsher conditions, more physical work and more dangerous, gets paid more
That’s apparently unfair. Keeping in mind, no one is being told they can’t go from the shop floor to the warehouse
Anyone that’s worked both (I did in my teens) understands why it’s paid differently
> and argues that store workers, most of whom are women, are paid far less than employees in the supermarket’s distribution centres, where nearly 90 per cent of workers are men.
They’re different jobs.
It shouldn’t matter what percentage of people doing those jobs are men or women, they are different jobs!
It would be like trying to claim that cleaners, who are mostly women, should be paid the same as doctors, who are mostly men, because they work at the same hospital.
Anyone with half an ounce of sense would laugh you out of the room.
There is nothing stopping women from applying to work in the warehouse if they want the better pay 🤷♂️
Who is stopping the women from working in the warehouse exactly? No one?
As usual, people are ignoring gender biases exist. “Who’s stopping women from working in warehouses” probably the managers with gender biases about what’s a woman’s job and what’s a man’s. Probably the societal message that very much still exists that women can’t do physical jobs.
People are not understanding my comment clearly. I do not think different jobs should earn the same. We should however be looking at why male dominated roles tend to earn more, and why women are not applying for these roles or being hired when they do. The gender bias conditioning starts from birth “boys are strong, girls are delicate” and that’s what’s stopping these women from working in warehouses.
But of course if you bring anything up about gender differences and bias’ in this sub you get heavily downvoted.
Some people look at this country and think “We need more socialism”
Oh so it’s ok for women to make £30k a month on OnlyFans, but when I get my knob out on the internet the only thing I get is a restraining order. Where’s my equal pay?
So women don’t touch the cages sent from the warehouse or work in the store fridges and freezers? Because I’ve got some news for you, they do and in stores we have the threats of physical assault and abuse from the public.
I’ve worked for Tesco for nearly 20 years and only ever had one woman say she shouldn’t do something because of her gender, it ended with her getting a written warning as she was physically capable.
The problem is that the equal pay legislation is completely insane when it comes to defining equal work.
The only definition of equal work that makes sense is the “like work” definition – i.e, a job that is very similar or the same. Binmen and binmen, cleaners and cleaners etc.
But the equal pay legislation also has other definitions of equal work that essentially allow the courts to step in and say that two completely different jobs are equal and entitled to equal pay. Which is stupid.
The legislation needs amending.
I worked both in the warehouse and on the shop floor of supermarkets. The warehouse was far more taxing physically. The only woman was our boss, whose only contribution was to tell us her boyfriend, ( another manager), would beat us up if we didn’t do as she said, which at least gave us something to laugh about. I ended up getting sciatica after a nasty slip whilst dragging a roll cage into a walk in freezer. It still plays up 22 years later
It’s like complaining nights gets paid more. You’re welcome to apply!
Some of these claims, starting with the Birmingham council one (which is still screwing the council over today) and including the Next one and this one, are just pure bullshit. The jobs they are claiming to be “equivalent” just aren’t, and if the women on the shop floor feel jealous of the wages of the warehouse workers, they’re free to apply to do that job instead.
In general they don’t want to because that job is harder, more physical and in less pleasant conditions. Which is why it’s paid more.
And like the Birmingham situation, this argument appears to hinge on “but they’re designated the same band so bonuses/differential rates are unfair”. Which is also bullshit – the grade designation is just an arbitrary classification, it has nothing to do with whether the work is actually equal.
Unfortunately we have an awful precedent and there’s no chance a Labour government will intervene to clarify the law in this area, especially when the lower paid workers can claim “think of the women”. So Tesco will probably lose and be forced to reduce the pay of warehouse workers.
This is part of the governments plan to get as many people on minimum wage as possible. Slowly
, eventually, the vast majority of jobs will pay the same money.
These are the same politicians who say we have to pay CEOs more money to attract the correct people to stay in multi national companies, or they would walk, same should exist in other companies, it’s not about discrimination but retaining correct workers
The economic reality is that they’re taking in record profits year on year and wages stagnated for nearly 20 years.
Time to start putting money in the pocket of workers and making work… Work.
I’m so sick of idiots not understanding what equal pay means, it doesn’t mean the average woman in the company gets the same as the average man in the company, it means they get the same if they do the exact same job.