Uninterruptible internet access that won’t be affected by the whims of drug addled billionaire is essential for modern warfare.
KhaosPT on
Yes, LFG!
Pizzashillsmom on
Until Europe gets competitive with SpaceX on launch cost they can’t really compete with Starlink on a major scale. Iris 2 plans 264 satellites, compared with Starlink current 10000 and planned 40000 satellites.
One_Performance_2176 on
>Iceland and Norway have joined IRIS2, the EU’s space-based secure communications initiative, which seeks to offer an alternative to Elon Musk’s Starlink.
Single_Classroom_448 on
Brilliant news, competition like this is healthy and important for obvious strategic reasons. I can’t wait for other countries to join if possible, like UK or Ukraine
_0611 on
Good news. Fuck Musk, fuck his internet and fuck his lousy cars. And fuck everybody who still buys a Tesla, too. You’re supporting a Nazi when you buy a Tesla. You’re literally contributing to his extreme wealth.
Corvid187 on
Describing this is a competitor to Starlink is ridiculous, unfortunately.
With a constellation of only 264 Vs Starlink’s *10,000*, this is never going to have close to The data transfer rates necessary to reliably provide satellite internet or high bandwidth, low-latency communications, which is what starlink does. This is going to be closer to a satellite telephone system than Starlink.
If there is a European competitor/alternative to Starlink, it’s something like OneWebb, which is co-owned by France, Japan, and the UK, among others. Even that is far less ambitious, but at 650 units is at least somewhat capable of true internet connectivity.
StrangerConscious637 on
Starlink should be illegal in Europe. Their CEO is a fanatic Nazi who wants to destroy Europe.
UpbeatPhilosophySJ on
They sure love patting themselves on the back and giving out awards for basically doing mediocre things.
Professional_Fix4056 on
>”non-EU” countries
these are just EEA members that pay more per person to the EU budget than actual EU members
52-61-64-75 on
Starlink without cost price F9 launches is going to be very very very very very expensive
parttimedoom on
Can we… stop dumping junk into orbit for no real benefit? Orbit should be for science, not war and corporate profit.
zapreon on
The scale of this is absolutely tiny in comparison with Starlink, which they can’t compensate for without creating an equivalent of SpaceX.
More broadly, the issue with European Space activities is that at every step of the way, there are American companies that offer at least the same service at significantly lower prices. That makes it pretty much inevitable that commercial attempts at building a satellite constellation will either require subsidies or will just become very dependent on the US anyway.
Then the issue is that it will already require an incredibly large effort to catch up even remotely where SpaceX is right now, both in terms of capital, human talent. At the same time, SpaceX is racing ahead at very high pace and raising in so much capital in a way that eclipses anything in Europe by several orders of magnitude. For example, they are gonna raise the largest IPO in history soon
DejongBCN on
People get a grip. Europe is behind, there’s no denying. It’s a right step.
ganbaro on
Unfortunately in terms of cost efficiency (cost per satellite) this project seems absurdly expensive compared to Starlink
That even despite the fact that Starlink is US developed and manufactured, with high labor cost, while Made in EU can be achieved by (partially) leveraging CEE labor cost advantages.
Axerin on
It’s just Norway and Iceland….. They are already in EFTA and part of EEA, therefore closely integrated with the EU. Hell inceland might even join the EU very soon.
Remind me when Canada or UK or Ukraine join.
stormdyr on
3333r ooooo
Ijustwanttoreadthx on
I reckon Rocket Lab will get the satellites in orbit.
VegetableSuit861 on
Why is it still branded as “alternative to Starlink”?
Imagine trying to sell Pepsi as “alternative to Coca Cola”.
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Excellent news for Europe!
Baby steps, gotta start somewhere.
Uninterruptible internet access that won’t be affected by the whims of drug addled billionaire is essential for modern warfare.
Yes, LFG!
Until Europe gets competitive with SpaceX on launch cost they can’t really compete with Starlink on a major scale. Iris 2 plans 264 satellites, compared with Starlink current 10000 and planned 40000 satellites.
>Iceland and Norway have joined IRIS2, the EU’s space-based secure communications initiative, which seeks to offer an alternative to Elon Musk’s Starlink.
Brilliant news, competition like this is healthy and important for obvious strategic reasons. I can’t wait for other countries to join if possible, like UK or Ukraine
Good news. Fuck Musk, fuck his internet and fuck his lousy cars. And fuck everybody who still buys a Tesla, too. You’re supporting a Nazi when you buy a Tesla. You’re literally contributing to his extreme wealth.
Describing this is a competitor to Starlink is ridiculous, unfortunately.
With a constellation of only 264 Vs Starlink’s *10,000*, this is never going to have close to The data transfer rates necessary to reliably provide satellite internet or high bandwidth, low-latency communications, which is what starlink does. This is going to be closer to a satellite telephone system than Starlink.
If there is a European competitor/alternative to Starlink, it’s something like OneWebb, which is co-owned by France, Japan, and the UK, among others. Even that is far less ambitious, but at 650 units is at least somewhat capable of true internet connectivity.
Starlink should be illegal in Europe. Their CEO is a fanatic Nazi who wants to destroy Europe.
They sure love patting themselves on the back and giving out awards for basically doing mediocre things.
>”non-EU” countries
these are just EEA members that pay more per person to the EU budget than actual EU members
Starlink without cost price F9 launches is going to be very very very very very expensive
Can we… stop dumping junk into orbit for no real benefit? Orbit should be for science, not war and corporate profit.
The scale of this is absolutely tiny in comparison with Starlink, which they can’t compensate for without creating an equivalent of SpaceX.
More broadly, the issue with European Space activities is that at every step of the way, there are American companies that offer at least the same service at significantly lower prices. That makes it pretty much inevitable that commercial attempts at building a satellite constellation will either require subsidies or will just become very dependent on the US anyway.
Then the issue is that it will already require an incredibly large effort to catch up even remotely where SpaceX is right now, both in terms of capital, human talent. At the same time, SpaceX is racing ahead at very high pace and raising in so much capital in a way that eclipses anything in Europe by several orders of magnitude. For example, they are gonna raise the largest IPO in history soon
People get a grip. Europe is behind, there’s no denying. It’s a right step.
Unfortunately in terms of cost efficiency (cost per satellite) this project seems absurdly expensive compared to Starlink
That even despite the fact that Starlink is US developed and manufactured, with high labor cost, while Made in EU can be achieved by (partially) leveraging CEE labor cost advantages.
It’s just Norway and Iceland….. They are already in EFTA and part of EEA, therefore closely integrated with the EU. Hell inceland might even join the EU very soon.
Remind me when Canada or UK or Ukraine join.
3333r ooooo
I reckon Rocket Lab will get the satellites in orbit.
Why is it still branded as “alternative to Starlink”?
Imagine trying to sell Pepsi as “alternative to Coca Cola”.
Like can we have a name please?