Zack Polanski sostiene le preoccupazioni sulla risposta della polizia all’attacco di Golders Green
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c78q6w1vzz7o
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Zack Polanski sostiene le preoccupazioni sulla risposta della polizia all’attacco di Golders Green
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c78q6w1vzz7o
di hihepo1
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It’s the Corbyn media strategy all over again.
Say something stupid
Get shamed into apologising for it
Repeat the stupid thing right after because he still holds the genuinely stupid belief
> The Green Party leader told the BBC everyone who works in public service “should not be above scrutiny” and action must be “proportionate no matter how brave”.
Agreed, and they were- this was a by-the-numbers escalation of force with the aim of getting someone to drop a knife.
– Officer presence? Failed, move up.
– Tactical communications? Failed.
– Primary control techniques? Unsafe with a knife, move straight to secondary.
– Secondary control techniques? PAVA ineffective, taser immobilises but unsuccessful at disarming.
– Offensive/defensive tactics? Straight to strikes to red zones given potentially lethal force, successful. Force no longer applied on success.
I’d like to hear his opinions on how this should have been handled, rather than than not-so-vague hints that this is how it shouldn’t.
Please be quiet. I really want my local Green councillor to get elected and improve the local neighbourhood. Your bonkers/pandering national policies risk derailing your actually good local policies and candidates!
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He ain’t a serious bloke nor are the greens in general hence why their voter base is largely minorities & students
Let’s be real folks, put your political affiliations and opinions aside for a minute..he ain’t got a clue what he’s on about..it’s easy to cast judgement when you weren’t there ain’t it? They did what was necessary, in most other countries and if the armed police had been closer that fella would have been swiss cheesed. What would he say then? Let’s be grateful we’ve got some incredibly brave people in this country who (wether it’s their job or not) are willing to run AT the danger to try and protect others. I wish for a speedy recovery for those injured and affected by this terrible incident.
He’s not really saying ANYTHING here.
Kuenssberg presses him on whether he thinks the response was proportionate or concerning and he declines to answer more than once.
All he says really is that police actions should always be scrutinised, which is true, and that social media / news shows are not the place to perform that scrutiny, which is also true.
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The problem is that he’s still chumming the water by starting with “I was very concerned by what I saw”. I think it’s fairly clear he still thinks it was heavy-handed but now doesn’t want to say that publicly. But it’s too late because he’s two or three conversations deep into this debate and has equivocated too much.
He should know better. He’s a member of the London Assembly and so his opinion carries some weight in the Capital. Second-guessing and knee-jerk reacting to serious incidents like this is very unhelpful to the confidence and morale of police officers who (whatever your feelings on the police generally) in situations like this put their lives on the line to keep the public safe.
There’s a time and a place for scrutiny, and a time and place for gratitude, and it feels he’s still getting it the wrong way round.
This bloke is as unlikeable as Farage. I can’t get my head around how the Greens and Reform have gained in popularity.
And this is why he’s not fit to lead a political party.
Basically, no good at politics. He apologised. He was stupid the first time. To basically double down on it is daft.
Who needs enemies when you have idiots like Zack torpedoing your own country like this 😮
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From seeing the video, it looks to me a lot like “probably understandable but will look bad”. If there armed police there then the guy would have had half a dozen bullets in the head, and the video would be forcibly removed.
As with every police use of force it should be investigated, and people should then be willing to accept the result of that investigation.
It’s just incredibly stupid politics. At a time when it has emerged that our nation’s favourite spiv has been gifted £5mn pounds Polanski somehow manages to provide a means to take the heat off of him and bring it onto himself by saying something utterly moronic.
He’s a fucking idiot and proving it time and time again.
He’s making attacker the victim as well which is just insane.
Can someone enlighten me? I went looking for video footage of the guy being kicked in the head repeatedly, and all I could find was 2 different bodycam recordings (the 2 cops who arrested him) and while they were clearly physical in their arrest *of a man wielding a knife and refusing to drop it*, I saw no-one beating him even vaguely. I have zero horses in this race – I just want to see what he’s talking about.
I like a lot of the Greens policies, but every time I consider voting for them, Zack comes out with some bananas-bollocks like this. He’s making it very difficult. How exactly should it have been handled then? Exactly, I mean.
It’s disappointing because it’s such a stupid unforced error and he’s going to have a hard enough time trying to get anywhere in this country, let alone the media landscape, even if he did everything right.
There is a time to talk about concerns over a police response, **that time is when there has been a concerning police response**. Bringing down an antisemitic knife-attacker in the middle of what seems to be a psychotic break of some kind without killing him seems like a win to me. Did he have more bruises than absolutely necessary, maybe, probably, it could not matter less under the circumstances
If you don’t want to praise the police for kicking the shit out of an antisemitic lunatic, fair enough, just don’t say anything.
This was stupid. It’s really damaged his credibility and the perception of his capabilities as a leader, and it hints at a fundamental failure to read the room.
Can we get these clowns out of politics. Him and Farage
It was so completely tone deaf. His party is already mired in anti- semitism scandals and he chooses to criticise police in how they handle a terror attack against Jewish people. As far as I’m aware, since the video, there has been no mention of an investigation into how the police handled it and the met felt confident enough to speak publicly about the bravery of those involved. So I’m guessing their response would generally be considered proportionate to the risk.
Also, he’s saying he doesn’t believe in policing the phrase ‘globalise the infitada’ despite this very attack giving an example of the sort of thing it encourages.
Sod the Greens and sod Polanski, I’m sticking with Labour. Starmer feels much more the grown up.
The guy has never worked in or near Policing.
There was a suspect, with knife clearly in hand, who had allegedly stabbed 2 people. When he was tasered he was still tightly gripping the knife and the second officer was struggling to get him to release the knife.
The officer who then kicks him in the head is using all necessary and proportionate force to get the suspect to drop and release that knife. A sharp kick to the head would likely do that.
If the officer had kept kicking him after the weapon had been released, I would get Polanski’s position, as that would be unnecessary and disproportionate use of force.
However, having worked in Policing, you’ve got a suspect with a knife who has brought harm to two people already. Are you seriously going to risk him slashing out AGAIN with the knife towards your colleague?
Absolutely not.
A taser is also not a perfect item and often fails as it did initially in the BWV when it hit his thick jacket.
There was also an idiot member of the public interfering tripping over the taser cables potentially making it not function properly.
The officer doing the kicking absolutely acted in line with policy, had his BWV on so was not trying to conceal his actions, and has clear rationale for the use of force.
End of story.
Did they even try opening a dialogue with the knifeman as he threatened to stab them?
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He’s copying Trump’s tactics
He’s acting like a despicable person saying horrific things to provoke outrage while appealing to his base then recycling that outrage against him into a conspiracy by a shadowy forces to try to stop him thereby dismissing any and all criticism against him as proof he’s somehow the victim
Doubling down is quite a move.
Just goes to show he actually thinks this way.
How greens are still defending this guy is crazy