Questa è la prima volta che viaggio su un treno ICE in Germania e voglio prenotare un posto, ma sono così confuso su quale posto dovrebbe essere rivolto nella direzione in cui si muove il treno. Inoltre, cosa sono queste due linee grigie? Un piccolo aiuto per favore😭
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Those lines are tables.
And for the direction… It kinda depends where it is going and from where it is leaving. Kinda hard to guess.
You can’t tell and it might also switch directions during travel depending on the stations.
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There are so-called terminal stations. You pull into the station, and then the train reverses back out to continue its journey. Depending on the route, this change of direction can occur several times.
Normally first class wagons are in the front and travel direction. But there are no fixed rules.
Trains can and often do change directions, even multiple times on one route. You can check websites like vagonweb or [bahn.expert](http://bahn.expert) to see the (planned) direction of the train. However, this can also change due to unplanned diversions, equipment changes, etc.
Sometimes they switch directions, it’s an odds game.
Maybe you can check your ICE on zugfinder.net.
Are you using mobile though? I recently booked a ticket on desktop, and the seat layout matched the train layout. It was not upside down like this.
Grey lines = tables. (Didn’t look close enough and thought it were luggage compartments. You’re not allowed to place suitcases etc in the walkway. Luggage should be placed under oder Over die Seat or in the luggage compartments.)
In this train lower numbers should be closer to the driver’s locomotive, so 11-16 would look to the “front”. However, there are a few Sackbahnhöfe (train stations that don’t “go through” but are a dead end, so the train will change direction there). To my knowledge there’s no way to determine the direction of travel and depending on the route, “the front” will change.
The wide grey lines are tables for a four-seater. the smaller, darker greys on that indicate trash bins/power sockets (depending on train type) and the double lines inbetween seats are the outer walls of luggage storage areas.
As for direction of travel, check the ‘Zugstandanzeiger’ for the train station you’re boarding at inside the app (should be reachable with 2-3 clicks). Mind you, depending on your destination and route, the direction of travel might change, as there’s still some ‘Kopfbahnhöfe’/terminal stations, as well as changes of direction if the train reverses to reach the next station.
Unanswerable without details about which train when and between which stations. And even then, there’s a chance of “umgekehrte Wagenreihung” on your day of travel.
You got to imagine the route the train takes. If I ride from Leipzig to Munich, with the train going from hamburg to Munich, you need to take the side facing the opposite direction because the train is changing directions at a station where it needs to change sides. If your route doesnt do that then just book the seat facing the driving direction, usualy left side i guess. Im not sure havnt riden ICE for 2 years.
You can see the “Wagenreihung” in “Fahrtinformationen”, not in the booking page, as it is relative to the station and changes en route at termini like Munich, Frankfurt, Stuttgart or Leipzig.
Trains in Germany often reverse direction en route. So you’ll have to tell us where and when you plan to travel to/from and it’s possible, albeit not guaranteed, that we’ll be able to tell you which way the seat is facing.
That being said, don’t worry about it so much. Sitting backwards is completely normal and done by many, many millions of people worldwide every day.
Look up the train number (ICE XXXX) on [VagonWeb](https://www.vagonweb.cz/razeni/razeni.php?zeme=DB&kategorie=ICE&rok=2026). There’s an arrow that shows the direction of travel. There’s also information about the ICE type, the available services/amenities and the route (including dead-end stations where the direction of travel changes)
Both, until you are at the station and look at it.
It’s the Schroedinger train.
Usually the big thick line marks the back of the seat, and the travel direction is upwards. So for example seats 13 and 14 are facing travel direction, 33 and 34 are not.
But as others said, this can change any time, if a station is not a drive-through station but a terminal, it will switch directions. And also it’s not even guaranteed that the train will leave in this coach order. So take this as a guideline when choosing a seat, nobody will guarantee that you will travel facing forward the whole time
Hard to say and the direction can change fron station to station.
One tip: check out https://bahn.expert/ – in the menu use the ‘Zugsuche’, enter the number of your ICE. You’ll see the entire journey of the train. Select your stop. This will shoe you the travel direction, so that’s a way to find out. But again, it can change if trains are rescheduled. Also based on the types of stations along the journey the train may switch driving direction at some point.
The grey lines? You mean the tables?
German math equations 😂
That the biggest mystery of European rails
A lot of none answers here. The lower the number the closer to the top
Search the sub. Frequently tourists are obsessed with trying to figure it out.
Good luck! Take motion sickness pills with you if that is the reason for your concern.
You really can’t tell for sure. It’s very frustrating that they won’t tell you.
You can’t really know. The best you can do is pick one. Hope it’s not filled and sit on an unreserved seat if it switches.
That’s the neat part. You can’t tell beforehand.
Lots of guessing here 😛
You’re looking at ICE 1221 here, which is formed of 2x class 411 “ICE T” units, with the 2nd class section facing forwards *planned*
The grey dashed designate the vestibule, there’s a door space between the 2nd and 3rd row of seats.
If you choose seat 11 – 17 you’re sat in the “front lounge” directly behind the driver separated by a glass wall. He will most certainly put it into opaque mode but there is a 1% chance (and you could always ask nicely) to put it into clear. Which will give you clear view of the line ahead.
Can’t tell at this time, but anyways, 11,13,15,17 are the best spots on the train.
In this picture, the fat line under the seat number symbolizes the backrest. At a table, you can see that the backrests are facing away from the table. How hard can that be to understand?
No body knows because they don’t plan that way
You can do one thing. First book the ticket for the train. Then in your ticket section go to your booking and in there click on “Journey Information” after going in, click on “coach sequence” There you can see the direction of your travel for your start station (however this may change during travel as others have mentioned) (this direction usually gets updated few hours before the travel) After you have seen the direction of travel you can then reserve your seat later. 🙂
The scheduled directions of the trains used to get published directly by Deutsche Bahn. But they’ve stopped publishing them ahead of time, because they had to change them last minute so often.
Now, since you can only look up the (actual) direction of travel shortly before departure, you can no longer complain about the train being the wrong way round, making you walk the length of the platform to get from where you’ve been waiting in the scheduled position of “your” car to where “your” car actually came to be.
That said, go to [grahnert.de](http://grahnert.de), click the number range your train is in, scroll down to your train’s number, and you can see the scheduled direction (the second column shows arrows for each part of the route between stations where the train changes direction; these arrows apply to the sequence of cars shown in the third column) — with no guarantee of the actual duration matching it. You can even switch to English at the top right.
The orientation of the car itself within the train is fixed. It can only change for trains composed of individual cars.
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