I risultati del televoto spagnolo dell’Eurovision dello scorso anno evidenziano come una popolazione relativamente piccola abbia un impatto significativo.
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I risultati del televoto spagnolo dell’Eurovision dello scorso anno evidenziano come una popolazione relativamente piccola abbia un impatto significativo.
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I personally think 3 votes per phone number or verified payment method should be the way; no bulk voting, no repeat voting from the same SIM/payment card (3 votes, but each needs to go to a different country), and full transparency on public-vote auditing. That would still let people vote for their top 3, but would massively reduce organized campaigns and paid vote flooding.
And yes, the cynical read is hard to avoid: the current system benefits from high-volume repeat voting, so limiting votes too much would likely reduce revenue and engagement for the EBU. It would make the contest fairer, but probably less profitable, we livr in such a world where money speaks first, fairness is an afterthought.
Edit: typos 🙁
Well, I’m not one to give a shit about Eurovision, but I’m guessing the multiple votes per number is leftover from the pre-cellphone days, when every member of a family had to call in from the same landline. And since some families can have over a dozen children (although that’s not typically the kind of family that watches Eurovision) they decided on 20 as the cutoff…
But everyone’s got their own number now, so they ought to just ditch that. One number, one vote.
Although if someone really wants to, one person with a random number generator and access to call-spoofing software or such a service, like telephone scammers often use, can still vote in any EU country as many times as they want and secure a petty little PR victory.
*Edit: A thought occurs to me. We can fix this. The problem with call-spoofing is that you can’t call the fake number back – or it ends up with someone else. So the voting computer needs to just receive your call, end your call, and call you back to complete the voting process.*
*Then all we have to worry about is trolls calling with the spoofed numbers of people they’re trying to annoy. But if we limit it to one vote per number, then all that person has to do is complete the vote, or choose an extra menu option saying I didn’t call you, don’t call me back, and the voting computer should leave them alone.*
Don’t you think the competition becomes pointless if there is a small subsection of fans who always vote for Israel regardless of the song? And this is without pointing out the cheating allocations…
The pro-Israel vote is smaller but they all vote for one country. The anti-Israel voter bloc is substantially larger but is split ~24 ways.
It’s very silly that you can vote 20 times. A single vote would suffice (maybe with a 1st/2nd/3rd ranked preference.)
People usually only use one phone number, and each phone number should be entitled to one vote. Why is it possible to vote 20 times from the same number?
Sadly it works for Israel, as they can point to their second place and claim they have broad support among Europeans.
In reality, many Spanish are against Israel (just look at the many protests during the Vuelta last year, because of the inclusion of a team called Israel – Premier Tech).
As you know, Spain is quite progressive when it comes to minority rights, but as far as I can recall, bots cannot yet be classified as a ‘population’.
Not yet.
If each number can vote 20 times, 47k votes is only 2350 unique numbers, may as well just been bought.
I see a lot of talk of embassy and social media promotional campaigns but whats to stop a clever propaganda department from a certain country buying SIM cards in bulk from multiple countries and using them to vote?
It’s ridiculous how lame Israeli propaganda is that tries every year to convince the whole Europe that they are likable by sdoing this coordinating voting scam
lol you moron they bot their votes
Meaningless competition, if anything less people should waste their time on it not more.
The numbers look embarrassing too be honest. That’s not even 100k people “voting”.
All audience awards suck. Eurovision has even more reasons to suck.
Then pay and vote, is not that hard..
If only they were bamned from the tournament alltogher
Voting online the wording said specifically that it was ten votes per payment card. As soon as I voted it just displayed the option to vote again. I didn’t but could have just easily kept adding votes with any card I had. It would easy to keep voting.
Or 2,378 people who followed the instructions in the group chat to vote the maximum 20 times because they were told it would upset Pedro Sanchez.
I guess the EBU should block multiple votes for the same song, while allowing multiple different votes, that way if normal people want to vote in multiple countries they can while blocking mass voting for a single country
If your able to plant explosives in thousands of pagers Im sure you can rig the voting in the song contest
The card payement made it easier to manupulate. It was better with phones SMS
Just abolish the eurovision.
Did you ever consider the fact that Israel doesn’t need a successful media campaign because there’s already a well funded anti-Israel campaign that puts it in the center of Eurovision? They’ve done a great job at making people vote for Israel if you ask me.
Hear me out… Maybe, just maybe, if more people actually voted, this wouldn’t even be a concern.
Mossad shenanigans
They don’t even try to make it look legit. Corruption used to be kept in the dark with effort, but nowadays, nobody gives a fuck, so why bother.
Maybe they need to abolish the televote entirely and just make it jury voting again. And I know the jurys are also biased (looking at you, Greece and Cyprus), but still better than the current system.
Who tf cares about eurovision
How super important and identity threatening is a song contest for some of you guys? It is a music event with a non-representative tele voting that doesn’t even try to be fair. It is meant to be entertaining and engaging, and in that it succeeds year for year. It does not legitimize the politics of any of the participating countries.
Why can people vote 20 times per number ?
And why are those assholes still allowed in Eurovision ?
Can we already stop it? It’s getting old
It’s all about money. Eurovision profits from public votes.
Why change a system you profit from?