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    1. wappingite on

      If it this is true, how on earth to these men end up on this show? This seems a bit high to be a sad fact of statistics / random choices?

      Did they purposefully select angry self-entitled bellends?

      Also – why are there so many shit men in our society? FFS it’s not hard to not rape someone. It’s not hard to make sure you _read the signs_ and the other person is interested. If you’re in any doubt _you can just ask_.

    2. topotaul on

      **Two women have told the BBC they were raped during the filming of one of Channel 4’s biggest shows, Married at First Sight UK, while a third has described an allegation of a non-consensual sex act**

    3. PrinzRagoczy on

      A guy with face tats being a rapist … say it ain’t so

    4. anonnymouse2025 on

      Bold social experiment into why most of the western world shunned arranged marriages that gave power over women’s bodies to men they didnt know. Spoiler: proves the reason why we dont do it anymore.

    5. MonkeManWPG on

      Some absolutely abhorrent things have occurred here.

      One man threatened his “on-screen wife” with an acid attack if she reported him. She reported this to the producers, who did not consider it a threat:

      >They said Lizzie did not tell CPL about her partner having told her that she “can’t say no” to him, and that the acid-throwing remark had been reported as a passing comment, not a threat.

      I would love to see them explain how one can un-threateningly say this:

      >”He said that if I told anybody what had happened, that he would get someone to throw acid at me,” she said.

      According to Rape Crisis England and Wales, around 40% of rapes are committed against the rapist’s partner or ex-partner. This equates more than 80 a day, based on how many are reported to the police. These cases may seem shocking but they’re actually somewhat representative of the most common type of rape in the UK.

      The show producers were clearly not doing enough to protect these women. All three of the women written about here presented enough to the producers to cause significant concern, and clearly not enough was done.

    6. The54thCylon on

      >Channel 4 said all the allegations are “wholly uncorroborated and disputed”.

      Really? That’s the way you’re playing this?

    7. A_Pointy_Rock on

      >Channel 4 said all the allegations are “wholly uncorroborated and disputed”.

      Ooft, that is a rough defensive argument to be making about these kind of allegations.

      Not that this *didn’t* happen, but that it’s *uncorroborated.* Who, exactly, are they hoping is going to corroborate this?

    8. wkavinsky on

      > CPL, […], said its welfare system is “gold standard” and industry-leading

      That just implies that the industry leading gold standard is pretty shite, which, given its “entertainment” doesn’t surprise me in the slightest.

    9. attempted-catharsis on

      I hope the people responsible for this show aren’t let off for what they put these women through.

      But I hope they don’t only look at this issue relating to women.

      The show absolutely also failed some of the men in earlier seasons and pushed them into abusive situations, bullied them into sex they didn’t want to have etc that was also coercive / sexual assault.

      It’s mind blowing that this show has been able to keep running with how they treat both the women and men.

    10. MapDiscombobulated1 on

      Rape/Sexual Assault on a “Reality” TV program expressly designed to put two likely unbalanced attention seekers under extreme pressure to perform for cameras……….who could possibly have foreseen that? 

    11. Lord-Liberty on

      Should be immediately pulled from airwaves and other similar shows should get the axe as well.

      Then Channel 4 should pay compensation to the victims and the producers should be sacked.

    12. letshavefunevery1 on

      The ‘experts’ creating an environment where they would belittle anyone they felt “wasn’t giving the experiment 100%” always made me feel super uncomfortable.

    13. Affectionate_Day7543 on

      All of these gross social experiment reality shows need to stop tbh, not just MAFS but all of these barrel scraping exploitative shows that c4 seem to love churning out

    14. qwerty_1965 on

      Any TV format which plucks members of the public out of thousands of applicants for a format which is based on the concept of romance and/or physical attraction is inherently risky. They simply shouldn’t be allowed to be made.

    15. trmetroidmaniac on

      Did nobody making the show anticipate this happening?

    16. CreativeAdeptness477 on

      I just heard this show exists, had to Wikipedia it, and I don’t honestly know what’s worst about it…

      The rapes (if true, willing to put money on it being true)
      The show’s response at the time
      The show’s response now
      The clear lack of vetting on the show
      That the show has lasted a decade so far
      That the show even exists in the first place
      That the show exists in so many countries
      That people clearly must watch it enough to justify the above

      And people question why I spend so much time alone indoors, torrent everything, and don’t socialise with anyone.

    17. Latter-Ad-689 on

      I have thought, since first encountering the concept, that it was insufferably and irredeemably stupid. Given my first and only encounter with the concept was being tuned in to Channel 4 5 minutes before Rick and Morty starts, that should tell us all something about HOW insufferably and irredeemably stupid.

    18. Astriania on

      This show always seemed sketchy to me but I’m saddened to see just how sketchy it seems to be.

    19. heypresto2k on

      I fooking hate reality tv ffs what a mess. My heart goes out to those poor women.

    20. Mandalorian____ on

      Always hated this vile show. Completely defiles and fetishises the whole prospect of marriage, downplays and normalises cheating, and most glaringly objectifies women. It’s the fast food equivalent of a relationship, just skip past all the buildup and trust and throw them straight into meaningless sex and performative romance.

      A show where unvetted single folk get to enter in a relationship, have sex, and then be encouraged to cheat is despicable.

    21. Downtown-Ebb-7813 on

      I’m shocked but not surprised by this to be honest. I was invited in another Channel 4 dating show by a producer who was recruiting at my old uni. I won’t. name the show, and thought nothing like this happened to me, there was a real safeguarding issue to put it lightly.

      I was expecting to go on a weird but hopefully fun date. I was a bit lonely at the time after a bad breakup and jumped at the chance to perhaps be matched with someone nice.

      Instead on the day I found myself being pressured into stuff I felt really uncomfortable with by the production crew. This included being asked really sexually inappropriate stuff on camera by producers and being pressured into getting intimate with the person on the date (including touching them), all of which I refused.

      They took us to a pub that evening and drinks just kept arriving every few minutes at the table and we were asked to drink them for ‘shot continuity’ but in reality they were trying to get us drunk, and we both had no idea after a while how much we had consumed (and I’d be shocked if this wasn’t a tactic used when filming MAFS to get ‘good TV’). After filming I was then just left drunk late at night at a random train station when I was promised they would drive me home.

      As for the promised aftercare – well they did nothing. They didn’t even reach out after the airing, even after I got a lot of abuse from people online which I am sure they were monitoring. I ended up in a dark place after the show aired and just wish I’d at least had some support from them.

      I should add this was a ‘wholesome’ dating show on prime time and not a like a sex box or naked attraction where you would expect it to be more risqué.

      I put a complaint in two years ago with Channel 4 after the Russel Brand stuff, which they never followed up. I told them my experience (including more bad stuff I don’t want to share here) and told them I was worried about other contestants having similar experiences to me on their shows or being exploited. And also that the production companies they use have predatory people working for them and use unethical practices (all in Channel 4’s name).

      I am just so horrified these women had to go through this and I really hope they get the justice they deserve – and I really worry this is the tip of the iceberg.

    22. tylerthe-theatre on

      This trash show is long past its sell by date, horrible

    23. Huge-Brick-3495 on

      The only accurate way to describe this show and it’s various franchises across the world is “televised bullying”.

      I could not watch more than 3 episodes because it made me very uncomfortable the way abusive behaviour is accepted and even encouraged. It is blatantly manipulated for entertainment purposes, and it’s clear that they mismatch couples on purpose or carelessly to create conflict.

      It should be taken off the air for so many reasons including this one.

    24. Mumlife8628 on

      It was never going to be a good idea

      And why majority doesnt agree with arranged marriages

      I hope these women get support leaving and healing and the reports remind people why not to do this, thus saving otbers

    25. michaelisnotginger on

      Shona is one of the people making the accusations and if you watched that series they were very clear that some sort of coercion/control was taking place

    26. QuirkyWish3081 on

      The whole premise of the show is pathetic. And it invites creeps to proclaim we are married so let’s do it!

    27. Appropriate-Bad-9379 on

      Same happened to myself ( not on tv!) . Got married ( by special license) after a week. It all seemed so romantic and dramatic. Won’t disclose details, but he was a bad’un and could obviously only keep up the pretence of niceness for a short while. My family disowned me ( nothing to do with religion- they just hated him). Eventually divorced (after 20 years of fear and abuse). Don’t be like me…

    28. 60sstuff on

      i actually was a runner on this show for a bit and all i’m going to say is that after a certain point pretty much all of the higher ups were drinking “special coffees”

      Also i would often come across a lot of the male contestants acting very very creepy in the dressing rooms

    29. Used_Yogurtcloset563 on

      All episodes of MAFS UK have been pulled from the channel 4 streaming service in the last couple of hours. They must have known about this investigation before now, can they really have been naive enough to underestimate the scale of the backlash?

      I think, like the Jeremy Kyle show, it will never be aired again. Interesting that the Australian version, which has has very similar allegations made against it, is still up though.

    30. StrictButterfly416 on

      I used to work in welfare for reality TV dating shows like this, and left because the “welfare” teams are lip service and don’t have any actual power. I expressed concerns for contributors safety and wellbeing multiple times when they were living in environments they were uncomfortable in and wanted to leave. I got the same answers back every time: make them stay.

      I was there to make them feel safer, not actually provide safeguarding. Which also, I realized in hindsight, put me in danger. It’s a toxic industry: desperation to please commissioners with good storylines makes people do terrible things, I’ve seen it first hand. I’m glad it’s being called out and hope it continues.

    31. Toilet500 on

      It’s a mad show. A few people get matched with someone vaguely normal and comptable. But more than half involve one person who has serious psychological problems, and some poor lonely rube who gets completely stitched up and coerced into a relationship with them.

    32. matt_cum on

      Never a social experiment. Just a reality show for people wanting to be famous.

    33. Is it reasonable to say that C4 effectively facilitated the abuse?

    34. StrictButterfly416 on

      I think something important that was briefly touched on in the Panorama show was the way the production cultivate an environment that makes its contributors feel detached from reality. Their phones are taken from them, they’re locked in small spaces with so-called “story producers” pushing whatever narrative the executives have decided they want. So if they want a loved-up storyline, they’ll push it. Welfare producers (I used to be one), are often shouted down by story producers who just want to progress their narrative. Productions don’t care about contributor welfare, they just don’t. Contributors often come out of these situations feeling confused about how things played out because things have been so manipulated, not just by their partners but by the teams around them.

    35. KoalaCapp on

      I always found it wild that people meet and that very same night after drinking and being pulled from one producer to another in a very out of control environment are then left alone in a room with a stranger with the expectation that sex will happen

      Plus the personalities over the years have become so much more nasty and self serving for personal gain.

    36. Easy-Distribution674 on

      I watched the TV series with Shona. She was very visibly obsessed with him, adoring and saying she was falling in love. Bradley definitely violated the agreement but the act of penetrative sex was consensual.  Therefore,  I am not sure if is rape. They then stayed together. Although it is reality TV, behind closed doors what you do is your responsibility.  

    37. boopin_snoots on

      The BBC has a long history of being complicit to abhorrent behavior. Last Podcast On The Left just did a series on Jimmy Savile which is very enlightening on what the company is completely fine with turning a blind eye to.

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