It’s not really a failure in the judges part it’s literally there is no place in prison for him to go. Should come with a life time driving ban and a shit load of community work. Can’t out him in prison well he can get a suspended and have to do 10 hours of community service work a week for the whole term
Fataldeviati0n on
Holy shit her injuries sound horrendous. I’ve never heard of that happening to someones leg. Poor woman
serenesabine on
I never understand these decisions. You hear a lot of ones like this. Horrible crime, suspended sentence. Where’s the justice? Where’s the deterrent to not do these awful things…. Nowhere.
Connected-1 on
“He told gardaí he didn’t notice the red light and the case against him was on the basis that he failed to keep a proper lookout”
Ok – he didn’t see the red light, what about seeing the person crossing the road on the pedestrian crossing? Is that easy to miss? Give me strength!
Edit: thanks for the award u/BeanEireannach
DesertRatboy on
Another example of getting away with inflicting grievous harm on someone because you’re driving
AdRepresentative8186 on
There is a pedestrian light beside where I live. I’d say 50% of the time, cars go through when the pedestrian light is green.
I have a child who is almost 2, he knows colours and red man = stop, and green man = go, but wouldn’t be ready for stop, look and listen.
It’s terrifying to hear him see the green man and say “goooo!” Only for one or more cars to flash past.
Its beyond a joke. Red light cameras cannot be that expensive. If it was a 200 euro fine or whatever each time you broke a red light, they would seldom be broken.
This guys carelessness has ruined her life. But also, the amount of compensation she will get, which the insurance will pay, is probably millions. And we will all pay for that through insurance.
I don’t understand the hold up.
TheWix on
The language around these accidents is odd in Ireland. In the States we’d say ‘hit/struck a pedestrian with car/vehicle’. ‘knocking down’ sounds like he pushed her or something. I feel like it doesn’t convey the gravity of the actual event.
WolfetoneRebel on
No justice for victims in Ireland as usual.
Affectionate_Art4277 on
I’m increasingly making a politician and party’s approach to criminal justice one of my highest elections priorities come next election.
Our judiciary, aided by the government, seem content with allowing awful people to keep abusing the system at our expense
SmellTheJasmine on
I thought when you knock someone down you get sentenced to death by suffocation.
longjohn2024_ on
Pedestrian crossings are a death trap in Ireland.
Stand at any one of them for 1 hour and you are guaranteed to see a car plough through it.
I’ve seen multiple near misses in the ones near me over and over again. The best thing to do is briefly step out, then step back until the cars in both lanes are fully stopped. It’s the only way to be safe
crustyblaas on
By the sounds of the lad he will serve a sentence for life in his head, he’s been clearly badly affected by it. He had a lapse in concentration which will happen to us all at some point but unfortunately it caused an awful accident. What’s the point of sticking him in jail? He has a clean record, it’s just a terrible incident without any malice whatsoever.
naughtboi on
Same old story.
soundengineerguy on
I am so sick of this. He should be in prison, we have to stop being so easy on this stuff.
Its time for cameras on our roads. Harsh and heavily increasing fines for each breach of the rules of the road.
If you injure somebody, loosing your license should be the absolute minimum you worry about.
not_a_full_shilling on
It’s why I’ve started reporting all red light breakers at a pedestrian crossing near me on traffic watch.
Three out of five reports have resulted in action by the guards, but only one is being pursued with a statement from me, so they will likely get a fine/points, the others just got a bollocking from the guard.
knowme2020 on
Can she take a Civil case against him for wreckless/dangerous driving and sue for her medical and punitive damages?
binksee on
There’s nothing for it but automated cameras to detect speeding, red light breaking, insurance and driving on phones. We are past the point of being mature enough to drive responsibly as a nation unfortunately without a stick.
Gingereej1t on
Never been almost hit by a motor vehicle, but several times now I’ve nearly lost my life to young lads flying through on scooters/ebikes, usually with them not slowing down at all
Call-of-the-lost-one on
It’s attempted murder. WTF
Davidoff1983 on
Cars are killers. The culture is holding us back from a better life.
MelvinDoode on
> Judge Sheahan set a headline sentence of 16 months to reflect the impact on the victim, before noting: “No sentence will restore her to the health and peace of mind she once had.”
In other words “Sending the man, who put you in a coma, to prison won’t fix all your health, social, financial and mental problems so we’re not going to do that, he’s free to go and carry on with his life while you suffer for the rest of yours.”
Where’s the justice?
Nyoka_ya_Mpembe on
Irish justice system scares me.
ruready8514 on
Brown Thomas jackets matter more than human beings in this country
Bocause on
I cycle to work every day. There’s a slip road that merges just off a main road I cycle down. I would say the majority of mornings I see someone break the red light. Most of the time they don’t even look.
There’s been at least 3 or 4 occasions since Christmas where, if I wasn’t actively aware and looking up that slip road coming to a stop wheee i have the right of way, I definitely would have been knocked down.
€200 fine would fix it immediately as someone else commented
South_Hedgehog_7564 on
Oh that’ll teach him.
Willing-Departure115 on
If you want to murder someone in Ireland, do it while driving and say it was an accident.
Mooderate on
I knew exactly what set of lights this would be.Its a strange stretch with 2 sets of lights very near each other,one for the luas stop and one for Benbulbin Rd(Marble Arch pub).
By concentrating on the lights at the pub junction,you can just not “see” the luas lights.
I’m not for one minute making excuses for the driver but I know I’ve been caught in an “oh shit” moment there,and my daughter told me she was caught out at the same lights.
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That’ll learn him.
It’s not really a failure in the judges part it’s literally there is no place in prison for him to go. Should come with a life time driving ban and a shit load of community work. Can’t out him in prison well he can get a suspended and have to do 10 hours of community service work a week for the whole term
Holy shit her injuries sound horrendous. I’ve never heard of that happening to someones leg. Poor woman
I never understand these decisions. You hear a lot of ones like this. Horrible crime, suspended sentence. Where’s the justice? Where’s the deterrent to not do these awful things…. Nowhere.
“He told gardaí he didn’t notice the red light and the case against him was on the basis that he failed to keep a proper lookout”
Ok – he didn’t see the red light, what about seeing the person crossing the road on the pedestrian crossing? Is that easy to miss? Give me strength!
Edit: thanks for the award u/BeanEireannach
Another example of getting away with inflicting grievous harm on someone because you’re driving
There is a pedestrian light beside where I live. I’d say 50% of the time, cars go through when the pedestrian light is green.
I have a child who is almost 2, he knows colours and red man = stop, and green man = go, but wouldn’t be ready for stop, look and listen.
It’s terrifying to hear him see the green man and say “goooo!” Only for one or more cars to flash past.
Its beyond a joke. Red light cameras cannot be that expensive. If it was a 200 euro fine or whatever each time you broke a red light, they would seldom be broken.
This guys carelessness has ruined her life. But also, the amount of compensation she will get, which the insurance will pay, is probably millions. And we will all pay for that through insurance.
I don’t understand the hold up.
The language around these accidents is odd in Ireland. In the States we’d say ‘hit/struck a pedestrian with car/vehicle’. ‘knocking down’ sounds like he pushed her or something. I feel like it doesn’t convey the gravity of the actual event.
No justice for victims in Ireland as usual.
I’m increasingly making a politician and party’s approach to criminal justice one of my highest elections priorities come next election.
Our judiciary, aided by the government, seem content with allowing awful people to keep abusing the system at our expense
I thought when you knock someone down you get sentenced to death by suffocation.
Pedestrian crossings are a death trap in Ireland.
Stand at any one of them for 1 hour and you are guaranteed to see a car plough through it.
I’ve seen multiple near misses in the ones near me over and over again. The best thing to do is briefly step out, then step back until the cars in both lanes are fully stopped. It’s the only way to be safe
By the sounds of the lad he will serve a sentence for life in his head, he’s been clearly badly affected by it. He had a lapse in concentration which will happen to us all at some point but unfortunately it caused an awful accident. What’s the point of sticking him in jail? He has a clean record, it’s just a terrible incident without any malice whatsoever.
Same old story.
I am so sick of this. He should be in prison, we have to stop being so easy on this stuff.
Its time for cameras on our roads. Harsh and heavily increasing fines for each breach of the rules of the road.
If you injure somebody, loosing your license should be the absolute minimum you worry about.
It’s why I’ve started reporting all red light breakers at a pedestrian crossing near me on traffic watch.
Three out of five reports have resulted in action by the guards, but only one is being pursued with a statement from me, so they will likely get a fine/points, the others just got a bollocking from the guard.
Can she take a Civil case against him for wreckless/dangerous driving and sue for her medical and punitive damages?
There’s nothing for it but automated cameras to detect speeding, red light breaking, insurance and driving on phones. We are past the point of being mature enough to drive responsibly as a nation unfortunately without a stick.
Never been almost hit by a motor vehicle, but several times now I’ve nearly lost my life to young lads flying through on scooters/ebikes, usually with them not slowing down at all
It’s attempted murder. WTF
Cars are killers. The culture is holding us back from a better life.
> Judge Sheahan set a headline sentence of 16 months to reflect the impact on the victim, before noting: “No sentence will restore her to the health and peace of mind she once had.”
In other words “Sending the man, who put you in a coma, to prison won’t fix all your health, social, financial and mental problems so we’re not going to do that, he’s free to go and carry on with his life while you suffer for the rest of yours.”
Where’s the justice?
Irish justice system scares me.
Brown Thomas jackets matter more than human beings in this country
I cycle to work every day. There’s a slip road that merges just off a main road I cycle down. I would say the majority of mornings I see someone break the red light. Most of the time they don’t even look.
There’s been at least 3 or 4 occasions since Christmas where, if I wasn’t actively aware and looking up that slip road coming to a stop wheee i have the right of way, I definitely would have been knocked down.
€200 fine would fix it immediately as someone else commented
Oh that’ll teach him.
If you want to murder someone in Ireland, do it while driving and say it was an accident.
I knew exactly what set of lights this would be.Its a strange stretch with 2 sets of lights very near each other,one for the luas stop and one for Benbulbin Rd(Marble Arch pub).
By concentrating on the lights at the pub junction,you can just not “see” the luas lights.
I’m not for one minute making excuses for the driver but I know I’ve been caught in an “oh shit” moment there,and my daughter told me she was caught out at the same lights.