Perhaps we live in a different Finland from the reports.
Sepelrastas on
How bad are the rest of them then?
Salt-Composer-1472 on
I feel sorry for the rest then because our healthcare is pretty fucking awful.
Federico216 on
I feel like Finland always scores suspiciously high in these kinds of studies that are based on public surveys.
Noticed it at work too. Everyone was constantly complaining and on the edge, seeing someone burst into tears at the office wasn’t uncommon, many had to take leave for mental health reasons etc. But when there was a survey, it’s as if it was the best company to work for in the whole world.
GonzAnt on
The “how could this be” comments are already stacking so let us be real. Albeit it has deteriorated a bit during the past few years and it has prioritized emergency healthcare over preventive/chronic healthcare over the last decade or so, Finland’s healthcare remains top notch in the world ranking (one can argue over which one is better on and over any of the top20 or 30, it is pointless)
So yeah the bile and anecdotal cases are not going to cut it. It is a privilege and a blessing to have access to this system and take all my taxes.
BishopOfBrandenburg on
I know a lot of Finns will struggle to believe it but as someone who has moved here from Austria (which is supposedly better lol?) I have very much enjoyed Finnish healthcare. From small towns in central Finland to the capital of Helsinki. Everything just works. If I need something checked up I can get it checked up with no issue. Prices tend to be at 0 euros or at most about 20-30 when I had to go to an emergency room once.
hhh0511 on
This looks like bs, how is Ecuador 6th best yet Ireland one of the worst
DeeperEnd84 on
Knowing the Danish system, I’m hard pressed to believe we are better.
Significant-Air2368 on
Not surprised at all considering how good put healthcare system is. Professional staff, always good care when needed.
Tarutati on
No, we really don’t have. It’s absolutely ass. If ours is that high then I can only imagine how absolutely horrible the rest are.
You don’t get help most of the time in Finland (unless you are rich).
Byproduct on
Not for long if the current administration can help it!
RecognitionTop3886 on
Can’t wait to read all of the anecdotal complaints individual people have in regards to healthcare here on a statistical analysis
Saotik on
Maybe people have had bad experiences when it comes to daily health issues, but having been dealt a particularly poor hand of cards recently, I can say that when shit has hit the fan I’ve received excellent and prompt care.
ConcentrateFar7753 on
Source is numbeo, it is a shit source
EchoingApplause on
Tied with Thailand and Ecuador? 😂
ranjop on
What is important to notice that the 3 out of Top 5 countries are in Asia.
Finland should seriously broaden its viewpoint and benchmark our system to the leading Asian countries. Finns tend to have belittling views about Asians and people do not understand how advanced the non-Western societies can be. Asians are very smart and they challenge many assumptions and models we take as granted without daring to think outside of the box. I think Finnish decision makers are afraid of benchmarking us to the leading Asian countries.
Speederfool on
The problem with many people is that they demand to immediately get an appointment with a doctor, even when it’s not anything urgent. Yes, you will eventually get to see a doctor, but you’ll have to wait as often there are more urgent cases in the line, and this is why so many of us perceive the Finnish healthcare system as poorly organized. If you feel like you absolutely need to see a doctor without waiting, go to a private clinic.
Fit-Ease5199 on
Canada offers MAID as a treatment, so at least we aren’t doing that bad. It has been slowly going downhill though. Still OK, but a lot of issues. From what I hear, most people who were alive back then prefer the system we had in the 90s. SOTE Uudistus just doesn’t seem like it’s working, it’s taking forever, and I haven’t really heard much positive feedback in regards to it.
I prefer Finnish system to the one I experienced in Japan. They have so many different clinics that only operate on one issue, so even getting to the right clinic is a hassle. No real outpatient care from what I experienced. I couldn’t get anxiety medication because in Japan I would have had to see a heart doctor, because it’s on them to prescribe the meds I needed. I brought my official prescriptions with me and translated them as well but the thing just didn’t go smoothly whatsoever. Always a specialized clinic, never could see just a GP it felt like.
ER/urgent care visit was pretty much the same as in Finland. I got put on fluids etc during a severe and sudden stomach flu. Bedside manner was ok, but they kind of seemed to pump or rush the IV to the point where it felt like my arm was freezing and it was somewhat painful. They were closing the clinic around the time I was admitted in so maybe that was it or something else. I probably should’ve spoken up but didn’t want to bother anyone.
A part of it is the learning curve, but as a system I would not score it as highly as it is. Wasn’t too expensive, pretty cheap. It’s just that everything had needless bureaucracy and hurdles along the way to getting treated.
In Finland you can expect to get some form of treatment for most issues in a reasonable timespan, mental health being the exception of taking forever. Actually seeing a doctor face to face for most minor things is getting a bit difficult, and those minor things add up into bigger issues down the line, but emergencies, prescriptions, etc is pretty smooth. Prices are also cheap, a lot of free healthcare.
Bigpullsgod3x on
again this bot posts fake 💩
Kindly-Tradition-973 on
You keep posting this visualcapitalist site /u/TinyAd1126. Are you affiliated with it? Numbeo isn’t exactly the best of sources for comparing healthcare or anything else, it’s just user reports.
Kendaren89 on
Ecuador is quite surprise. Never knew they have so good health care
extended_l0gic on
I was born in, and belong to, one of the countries ranked the worst. Yet, year after year, I see people from the EU and North America who are entitled to the best healthcare systems traveling to that ‘worst’ countries for medical treatment. For instance, my friend’s wife lives in Germany, but she flew to one of those poorly rated countries specifically for treatment. Out of all the places listed, I agree that Thailand has the best healthcare, but only if you can afford it.
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This is very difficult to believe.
Perhaps we live in a different Finland from the reports.
How bad are the rest of them then?
I feel sorry for the rest then because our healthcare is pretty fucking awful.
I feel like Finland always scores suspiciously high in these kinds of studies that are based on public surveys.
Noticed it at work too. Everyone was constantly complaining and on the edge, seeing someone burst into tears at the office wasn’t uncommon, many had to take leave for mental health reasons etc. But when there was a survey, it’s as if it was the best company to work for in the whole world.
The “how could this be” comments are already stacking so let us be real. Albeit it has deteriorated a bit during the past few years and it has prioritized emergency healthcare over preventive/chronic healthcare over the last decade or so, Finland’s healthcare remains top notch in the world ranking (one can argue over which one is better on and over any of the top20 or 30, it is pointless)
So yeah the bile and anecdotal cases are not going to cut it. It is a privilege and a blessing to have access to this system and take all my taxes.
I know a lot of Finns will struggle to believe it but as someone who has moved here from Austria (which is supposedly better lol?) I have very much enjoyed Finnish healthcare. From small towns in central Finland to the capital of Helsinki. Everything just works. If I need something checked up I can get it checked up with no issue. Prices tend to be at 0 euros or at most about 20-30 when I had to go to an emergency room once.
This looks like bs, how is Ecuador 6th best yet Ireland one of the worst
Knowing the Danish system, I’m hard pressed to believe we are better.
Not surprised at all considering how good put healthcare system is. Professional staff, always good care when needed.
No, we really don’t have. It’s absolutely ass. If ours is that high then I can only imagine how absolutely horrible the rest are.
You don’t get help most of the time in Finland (unless you are rich).
Not for long if the current administration can help it!
Can’t wait to read all of the anecdotal complaints individual people have in regards to healthcare here on a statistical analysis
Maybe people have had bad experiences when it comes to daily health issues, but having been dealt a particularly poor hand of cards recently, I can say that when shit has hit the fan I’ve received excellent and prompt care.
Source is numbeo, it is a shit source
Tied with Thailand and Ecuador? 😂
What is important to notice that the 3 out of Top 5 countries are in Asia.
Finland should seriously broaden its viewpoint and benchmark our system to the leading Asian countries. Finns tend to have belittling views about Asians and people do not understand how advanced the non-Western societies can be. Asians are very smart and they challenge many assumptions and models we take as granted without daring to think outside of the box. I think Finnish decision makers are afraid of benchmarking us to the leading Asian countries.
The problem with many people is that they demand to immediately get an appointment with a doctor, even when it’s not anything urgent. Yes, you will eventually get to see a doctor, but you’ll have to wait as often there are more urgent cases in the line, and this is why so many of us perceive the Finnish healthcare system as poorly organized. If you feel like you absolutely need to see a doctor without waiting, go to a private clinic.
Canada offers MAID as a treatment, so at least we aren’t doing that bad. It has been slowly going downhill though. Still OK, but a lot of issues. From what I hear, most people who were alive back then prefer the system we had in the 90s. SOTE Uudistus just doesn’t seem like it’s working, it’s taking forever, and I haven’t really heard much positive feedback in regards to it.
I prefer Finnish system to the one I experienced in Japan. They have so many different clinics that only operate on one issue, so even getting to the right clinic is a hassle. No real outpatient care from what I experienced. I couldn’t get anxiety medication because in Japan I would have had to see a heart doctor, because it’s on them to prescribe the meds I needed. I brought my official prescriptions with me and translated them as well but the thing just didn’t go smoothly whatsoever. Always a specialized clinic, never could see just a GP it felt like.
ER/urgent care visit was pretty much the same as in Finland. I got put on fluids etc during a severe and sudden stomach flu. Bedside manner was ok, but they kind of seemed to pump or rush the IV to the point where it felt like my arm was freezing and it was somewhat painful. They were closing the clinic around the time I was admitted in so maybe that was it or something else. I probably should’ve spoken up but didn’t want to bother anyone.
A part of it is the learning curve, but as a system I would not score it as highly as it is. Wasn’t too expensive, pretty cheap. It’s just that everything had needless bureaucracy and hurdles along the way to getting treated.
In Finland you can expect to get some form of treatment for most issues in a reasonable timespan, mental health being the exception of taking forever. Actually seeing a doctor face to face for most minor things is getting a bit difficult, and those minor things add up into bigger issues down the line, but emergencies, prescriptions, etc is pretty smooth. Prices are also cheap, a lot of free healthcare.
again this bot posts fake 💩
You keep posting this visualcapitalist site /u/TinyAd1126. Are you affiliated with it? Numbeo isn’t exactly the best of sources for comparing healthcare or anything else, it’s just user reports.
Ecuador is quite surprise. Never knew they have so good health care
I was born in, and belong to, one of the countries ranked the worst. Yet, year after year, I see people from the EU and North America who are entitled to the best healthcare systems traveling to that ‘worst’ countries for medical treatment. For instance, my friend’s wife lives in Germany, but she flew to one of those poorly rated countries specifically for treatment. Out of all the places listed, I agree that Thailand has the best healthcare, but only if you can afford it.