The biggest ‘punishment’ for these degenerates who raped two teenage girls, threatened one with a knife, recorded the rapes and posted them on social media; three years ‘youth rehabilitation’ and a three month curfew.
Judge Nicholas Rowland said “I should avoid criminalising these children unnecessarily…” call me crazy but when you’ve violently raped two people and glorified yourself doing it criminalisation seem pretty fucking necessary.
Judge Nicholas Rowland is a fucking disgrace to common decency and justice.
No-Particular-2894 on
**The second girl was 14 when she met the boys at Fordingbridge Recreation Ground, was threatened with a knife, then raped three times in a nearby field. No knife was found, but forensic evidence revealed her leggings had been cut with a “sharp instrument”.**
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The 15-year-olds were given three-year Youth Rehabilitation Orders with intensive surveillance and supervision. The younger boy’s probation supervision will be for one and half years.
>Two of the boys’ mothers burst into tears as Judge Nicholas Rowland told the attackers “none of you need to go to prison today”.
>Explaining his sentence, the judge said: “I should avoid criminalising these children unnecessarily and understand the effects of their behaviour and support their reintegration into society.”
RedLion_40k on
wtf kind of sentences are these?!?! Peer pressure is like for smoking or shoplifting a bottle of wkd not gang raping multiple times. And who was the pressure from?!?! Surely each other!!
I would urge anyone who is outraged by this to fill out the form above
Ruin_In_The_Dark on
Judge Nicholas Rowland told the attackers “none of you need to go to prison today”
What the fuck.
Kitchen-Invite-5123 on
Judge Nicholas Rowland is clearly unfit for his position, he’s a danger to society giving out these meaningless sentences to clearly deranged individuals. Disgusting.
Moorglademover on
This ‘sentence’, must surely be appealed.
This is disgraceful.
It’s akin to detention. For a violent gang-rape.
orevrev on
Judge Nicholas Rowland “I should avoid criminalising these children unnecessarily and understand the effects of their behaviour and support their reintegration into society.” I mean wtf, this gang of 3 raped 2 girls on separate occasions and filmed it, one thought she was going on a first date. This is insane, how will those poor girls feel any sense of justice.
ChemicalLifeguard443 on
“none of you need to go to prison today.” All of these little scumbags need to go to prison today, tomorrow and the next couple of decades after.
I really hope this sentence gets reviewed, absolutely disgraceful.
Nuthetes on
“Two of the boys’ mothers burst into tears as Judge Nicholas Rowland told the attackers “none of you need to go to prison today” ,”
Tells you all what you need to know. Not giving a fig about the victim, just relief that Hayden is off the hook and got away with it.
CarrotBusiness6255 on
Been seeing judges being more and more bizarre with sentencing the last few years. Lost count the amount of times I’ve seen something in the news and the punishment has not fit the crime at all.
CLONE-11011100 on
If we don’t change this attitude by the judiciary now, then when?
How many more will this happen to?…
TomsBookReviews on
There’s 180 days of intensive supervision for two of the three rapists. In 181 days’ time, there will really be nothing effectively preventing these scum from raping more girls. In three years’ time, none of the rapists will be under any supervision whatsoever.
As the rapists have only been given a (gentle) slap on the wrist, it’s highly unlikely they’ll stop. As their anonymity has been protected, there’s nothing girls can do to avoid them.
Judge Nicholas Rowland should feel ashamed of himself, as should those involved with creating laws and sentencing guidelines that gave him the freedom to be so lenient.
tylerthe-theatre on
The details are just… wow. The judge should be disbarred, dereliction of justice
cloudswalking on
Two seperate crimes.
So both girls, were underage… CHILDREN.
Raped three times.
They filmed and took pictures. They were laughing.
Older boys rapists, 3yr rehabilitation orders.
That’s 18months per girl. Non custodial.
The younger rapist 18months probation
The judge said about the sentences, “”I should avoid criminalising these children unnecessarily”
Where are the words?
Almost every woman I know is emotionally exhausted. The constant barrage of this shit.
There’s this old experiment asking Men what they are most afraid of from women.
Their answer mainly being, ‘rejection’
When women were asked, they answered “death.”
How do we effect change? It’s going backwards every day. And when Judges care more about the rapists than the victims, where can justice be found?
I’m just so sick of it all.
Waxedjacketproblem on
The sentences passed are outrageous. How long before we see non-custodial sentences passed on children who are convicted of murder?
ekitikitaka22 on
Peer pressure? All 3 of them took part in two separate rapes, threatened one victim with a knife, and recorded the whole thing. This is the most ridiculous sentence I’ve ever heard.
Charming_Bing_3802 on
They need much harsher consequences. This is despicable.
Viv_84 on
Dear God.
I honestly have no words for this, those poor, poor girls.
Really does reinforce ‘you get the 1st one for free.’
I hope to good those girls are getting the therapy they need.
PollyPutty on
During the sentencing hearing, the girl read a poem directed towards her attackers which included the line: “All I want to do is die. I no longer have fear for when that comes.”
Cool so the judge who handed out this nothing sentence doesn’t give a fuck about this poor girl who bravely defended herself in court.
Ok-Hedgehog2473 on
How in the hell can you read what they’ve done and think that’s at all an appropriate sentence. Peer pressure?? What the fuck is the Judge on about, this was a heinous, heinous crime and deserves a much, much stronger sentence. No doubt with such a slap on the wrist they will reoffend again.
UnalomeJourneying on
No jail time and only a 10 year restraining order? They can contact the victims by the time they’re 25?? What a joke
redandbluebadness on
This sentence is so absurdly lenient it’s likely to cause more problems. People will be furious.
Highlord_Salem on
Is thia juge smoking crack or somthing. “To avoid criminalising”. How can a juge of a court of law not condem and or criminalis this misogynistic, degenerate behavior. Regardless of age or peer pressures.
rainribs on
JFC. You don’t put rapists back into society and hope they don’t rape anymore kids, you put them in a prison and only let them out when you’re *sure* they won’t. And if it’s never then it’s never. Prison is for public safety. Some girls maybe getting raped in not the a price to be paid for a rapist’s freedom.
DimensionTiny8725 on
There are kids the same age getting prison time for robbery/drugs i’m so confused why multiple rapists shouldn’t. The british Injustice system is really something.
* **Escalating the Severity Tier**: While youth guidelines heavily emphasize rehabilitation, a “significant degree of planning or premeditation” is an explicit reason for a judge to move the offence into the highest tier of youth seriousness.
* **Justifying Custody**: The youth guidelines state that non-custodial options may be considered for spontaneous or peer-pressured actions where there is “minimal harm” and no coercion. However, **premeditated rape combined with coercion, threats, or weapon use** heavily satisfies the statutory threshold for a **Custodial Sentence** or a Youth Rehabilitation Order with intensive, restrictive supervision.
* **The “Dangerousness” Assessment**: Premeditation and planning are key indicators judges use to evaluate “dangerousness”. If a youth shows a calculated pattern of behavior or premeditated malice, the court can determine they pose a significant risk of serious harm to the public. This legal designation allows the court to bypass standard youth sentence limits and issue an **Extended Sentence** to keep them detained or supervised for much longer.
The youth guidelines state that non-custodial options are meant for cases involving *minimal harm and no coercion*. The facts proved at trial entirely contradicted this threshold. The offences involved extreme psychological coercion (the 15-year-old victim fearing being thrown into the River Avon), the documented presence of a weapon (forensic proof that the 14-year-old victim’s leggings were cut with a sharp instrument), sophisticated premeditation (forcing a victim to ditch her phone and AirTag to avoid tracking), and severe psychological harm (the victim writing a poem expressing suicidal ideation).
KoffieCreamer on
I 100% agree with all the comments here, the sentences are a joke. However, I’d be interested to know what the low and high end sentencing guidelines are for this crime with the guilty being the ages they are, and if any what mitigating circumstances could be involved.
Surely the judge has given the absolute bare minimum?
prongleprongle on
>Judge Nicholas Rowland said “I should avoid criminalising these children unnecessarily…”
Somewhere in Islington, a champagne cork pops
Ecstatic_Lion4224 on
I’m not sure what the sentencing limits are for this crime with perperatrators of this age.
However, slap on the wrists aside, this is the sort of things that puts women and girls off from coming forwards. These girls actually made it to court, their attackers were convicted, and it is written off like their attackers were caught shoplifting. And this from the judge, no less.
At 14/15 you should know not to rape. Forming a rape gang with your mates where you isolate girls by misleading them to believe they are going on a date is a calculated pattern of behaviour. It’s horrifying. Yet even a series of rapes such as this isn’t taken seriously by the Justice system where the evidential burden to convict is met.
If we want to protect our women and girls, start off by addressing situations like this.
dible46 on
And then the people are surprised when they reoffend. With punishments like this for violently raping two girls why shouldn’t they do it again when they basically got a slap on the wrist. The judges are fuking enabling them.
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The biggest ‘punishment’ for these degenerates who raped two teenage girls, threatened one with a knife, recorded the rapes and posted them on social media; three years ‘youth rehabilitation’ and a three month curfew.
Judge Nicholas Rowland said “I should avoid criminalising these children unnecessarily…” call me crazy but when you’ve violently raped two people and glorified yourself doing it criminalisation seem pretty fucking necessary.
Judge Nicholas Rowland is a fucking disgrace to common decency and justice.
**The second girl was 14 when she met the boys at Fordingbridge Recreation Ground, was threatened with a knife, then raped three times in a nearby field. No knife was found, but forensic evidence revealed her leggings had been cut with a “sharp instrument”.**
>
The 15-year-olds were given three-year Youth Rehabilitation Orders with intensive surveillance and supervision. The younger boy’s probation supervision will be for one and half years.
>Two of the boys’ mothers burst into tears as Judge Nicholas Rowland told the attackers “none of you need to go to prison today”.
>Explaining his sentence, the judge said: “I should avoid criminalising these children unnecessarily and understand the effects of their behaviour and support their reintegration into society.”
wtf kind of sentences are these?!?! Peer pressure is like for smoking or shoplifting a bottle of wkd not gang raping multiple times. And who was the pressure from?!?! Surely each other!!
https://www.gov.uk/ask-crown-court-sentence-review
I would urge anyone who is outraged by this to fill out the form above
Judge Nicholas Rowland told the attackers “none of you need to go to prison today”
What the fuck.
Judge Nicholas Rowland is clearly unfit for his position, he’s a danger to society giving out these meaningless sentences to clearly deranged individuals. Disgusting.
This ‘sentence’, must surely be appealed.
This is disgraceful.
It’s akin to detention. For a violent gang-rape.
Judge Nicholas Rowland “I should avoid criminalising these children unnecessarily and understand the effects of their behaviour and support their reintegration into society.” I mean wtf, this gang of 3 raped 2 girls on separate occasions and filmed it, one thought she was going on a first date. This is insane, how will those poor girls feel any sense of justice.
“none of you need to go to prison today.” All of these little scumbags need to go to prison today, tomorrow and the next couple of decades after.
I really hope this sentence gets reviewed, absolutely disgraceful.
“Two of the boys’ mothers burst into tears as Judge Nicholas Rowland told the attackers “none of you need to go to prison today” ,”
Tells you all what you need to know. Not giving a fig about the victim, just relief that Hayden is off the hook and got away with it.
Been seeing judges being more and more bizarre with sentencing the last few years. Lost count the amount of times I’ve seen something in the news and the punishment has not fit the crime at all.
If we don’t change this attitude by the judiciary now, then when?
How many more will this happen to?…
There’s 180 days of intensive supervision for two of the three rapists. In 181 days’ time, there will really be nothing effectively preventing these scum from raping more girls. In three years’ time, none of the rapists will be under any supervision whatsoever.
As the rapists have only been given a (gentle) slap on the wrist, it’s highly unlikely they’ll stop. As their anonymity has been protected, there’s nothing girls can do to avoid them.
Judge Nicholas Rowland should feel ashamed of himself, as should those involved with creating laws and sentencing guidelines that gave him the freedom to be so lenient.
The details are just… wow. The judge should be disbarred, dereliction of justice
Two seperate crimes.
So both girls, were underage… CHILDREN.
Raped three times.
They filmed and took pictures. They were laughing.
Older boys rapists, 3yr rehabilitation orders.
That’s 18months per girl. Non custodial.
The younger rapist 18months probation
The judge said about the sentences, “”I should avoid criminalising these children unnecessarily”
Where are the words?
Almost every woman I know is emotionally exhausted. The constant barrage of this shit.
There’s this old experiment asking Men what they are most afraid of from women.
Their answer mainly being, ‘rejection’
When women were asked, they answered “death.”
How do we effect change? It’s going backwards every day. And when Judges care more about the rapists than the victims, where can justice be found?
I’m just so sick of it all.
The sentences passed are outrageous. How long before we see non-custodial sentences passed on children who are convicted of murder?
Peer pressure? All 3 of them took part in two separate rapes, threatened one victim with a knife, and recorded the whole thing. This is the most ridiculous sentence I’ve ever heard.
They need much harsher consequences. This is despicable.
Dear God.
I honestly have no words for this, those poor, poor girls.
Really does reinforce ‘you get the 1st one for free.’
I hope to good those girls are getting the therapy they need.
During the sentencing hearing, the girl read a poem directed towards her attackers which included the line: “All I want to do is die. I no longer have fear for when that comes.”
Cool so the judge who handed out this nothing sentence doesn’t give a fuck about this poor girl who bravely defended herself in court.
How in the hell can you read what they’ve done and think that’s at all an appropriate sentence. Peer pressure?? What the fuck is the Judge on about, this was a heinous, heinous crime and deserves a much, much stronger sentence. No doubt with such a slap on the wrist they will reoffend again.
No jail time and only a 10 year restraining order? They can contact the victims by the time they’re 25?? What a joke
This sentence is so absurdly lenient it’s likely to cause more problems. People will be furious.
Is thia juge smoking crack or somthing. “To avoid criminalising”. How can a juge of a court of law not condem and or criminalis this misogynistic, degenerate behavior. Regardless of age or peer pressures.
JFC. You don’t put rapists back into society and hope they don’t rape anymore kids, you put them in a prison and only let them out when you’re *sure* they won’t. And if it’s never then it’s never. Prison is for public safety. Some girls maybe getting raped in not the a price to be paid for a rapist’s freedom.
There are kids the same age getting prison time for robbery/drugs i’m so confused why multiple rapists shouldn’t. The british Injustice system is really something.
The fact these cases showed premeditation should have justified a custodial sentence. Even for youth offenders, the sentencing guidelines outline factors in which custodial sentencing is justified. When sentencing children and young people (under 18), judges utilize the [Sentencing Children and Young People Overarching Principles](https://sentencingcouncil.org.uk/guidelines/sexual-offences-sentencing-children-and-young-people/) alongside specific youth sexual offence frameworks. [[1](https://sentencingcouncil.org.uk/guidelines/sexual-offences-sentencing-children-and-young-people/), [2](https://sentencingcouncil.org.uk/media/ehzedc3n/aug-2015-sexual-offences-definitive-guideline-web.pdf)]
* **Escalating the Severity Tier**: While youth guidelines heavily emphasize rehabilitation, a “significant degree of planning or premeditation” is an explicit reason for a judge to move the offence into the highest tier of youth seriousness.
* **Justifying Custody**: The youth guidelines state that non-custodial options may be considered for spontaneous or peer-pressured actions where there is “minimal harm” and no coercion. However, **premeditated rape combined with coercion, threats, or weapon use** heavily satisfies the statutory threshold for a **Custodial Sentence** or a Youth Rehabilitation Order with intensive, restrictive supervision.
* **The “Dangerousness” Assessment**: Premeditation and planning are key indicators judges use to evaluate “dangerousness”. If a youth shows a calculated pattern of behavior or premeditated malice, the court can determine they pose a significant risk of serious harm to the public. This legal designation allows the court to bypass standard youth sentence limits and issue an **Extended Sentence** to keep them detained or supervised for much longer.
The youth guidelines state that non-custodial options are meant for cases involving *minimal harm and no coercion*. The facts proved at trial entirely contradicted this threshold. The offences involved extreme psychological coercion (the 15-year-old victim fearing being thrown into the River Avon), the documented presence of a weapon (forensic proof that the 14-year-old victim’s leggings were cut with a sharp instrument), sophisticated premeditation (forcing a victim to ditch her phone and AirTag to avoid tracking), and severe psychological harm (the victim writing a poem expressing suicidal ideation).
I 100% agree with all the comments here, the sentences are a joke. However, I’d be interested to know what the low and high end sentencing guidelines are for this crime with the guilty being the ages they are, and if any what mitigating circumstances could be involved.
Surely the judge has given the absolute bare minimum?
>Judge Nicholas Rowland said “I should avoid criminalising these children unnecessarily…”
Somewhere in Islington, a champagne cork pops
I’m not sure what the sentencing limits are for this crime with perperatrators of this age.
However, slap on the wrists aside, this is the sort of things that puts women and girls off from coming forwards. These girls actually made it to court, their attackers were convicted, and it is written off like their attackers were caught shoplifting. And this from the judge, no less.
At 14/15 you should know not to rape. Forming a rape gang with your mates where you isolate girls by misleading them to believe they are going on a date is a calculated pattern of behaviour. It’s horrifying. Yet even a series of rapes such as this isn’t taken seriously by the Justice system where the evidential burden to convict is met.
If we want to protect our women and girls, start off by addressing situations like this.
And then the people are surprised when they reoffend. With punishments like this for violently raping two girls why shouldn’t they do it again when they basically got a slap on the wrist. The judges are fuking enabling them.