Brexit was sold as a historic triumph and delivered less trade, less influence, more bureaucracy and years of self inflicted damage.
Rejoining the EU would not be undoing democracy.
It would be admitting a disastrous mistake and choosing a future that actually benefits Britain.
Narharcan on
I don’t think that can happen with Reform leading the polls. Even if they considered it (and that’s a mighty big “if”), they’d probably make demands waaaay beyond the EU’s red lines.
Forsaken-Medium-2436 on
>While it is thought that the EU would include joining the Euro as a key starting point of talks with the UK, multiple sources said this was unlikely to be a red line
Yeah, I think it would be huge red line
Vivid_Employment8635 on
If we ever did rejoin we’d be out again in 10 years. The same politicians and media that sold it are still around and would return to blaming everything on the EU.
GordoToJupiter on
They were free to leave and they are free to join if they are willing to meet the admission requirements.
justarandomuser10 on
EU could do this, EU coulda woulda do that. I’m kind of sick of these “news”.
NagromNitsuj on
Fast track? Surely it means vote on it? Or do we not do democracy now.
Just because you don’t like it, doesn’t mean you can erase it.
doctor_morris on
Yes, it’ll take 20 years instead of 50.
ConinTheNinoC on
The UK is still very politically unstable. I personally don’t want a Farage led UK back into the EU so they can veto or stifle any EU progress.
As long as Farage, Reform and other political entities hold power in the UK we should keep them outside the EU.
Someone160601 on
Honestly I think it’s horrible that as a young Briton I am forced to live with the consequences of idiot who probably died of Covid
Fortenio on
Please come back, we miss you 🥺
KelbornXx on
As a Brit, I don’t want the UK to ever have the Euro as currency or to join Schengen, but wants good relations with the EU. I think we can reach a deal around trade and security. This will be beneficial to both UK & EU.
You will find the UK outside of the EU, is serious and pragmatic and therefore a much better partner than someone who is inside the EU and disruptive.
BekanntesteZiege on
Misleading title.
Marvel--Jesus on
They could.
But they won’t.
Udderdisaster1993 on
To do this with a dangerous looming anti EU Reform Party threat would be foolish, as they could potentially commit to reversing it a second time if they get into power
morbihann on
UK needs to decide what it wants. EU membership can’t be a revolving door, coming in and out as one pleases.
karateninjazombie on
No they won’t.
The french will find something random to be petty about, again.
N00dles_Pt on
This is not a good idea, even if we let them in you just know that they would turn around and vote that Farage idiot in next, we can’t have a member coming in and out of the club all the time.
Accomplished-Dot-891 on
Good idea and nice they can be flexible. Should be happening already.
njp230181 on
That article quotes a number of sources, all of whom contradict each other. Peak journalism.
Panzermensch911 on
First of all the UK needs to get it’s act together and decide on what they want.
Considering that this is near impossible the entire thing is moot.
And such articles are just low key blaming the EU for the UK not rejoining, because a realistic return would be anything but fast and with no more privileges for the UK.
I_ALWAYS_UPVOTE_CATS on
Yet again, the issue is being framed as ‘reversing Brexit’, not as a non-member becoming a new member. At this point I’m wondering whether it’s a deliberate obfuscation by the Rejoin crowd, because they know that their support would waver if they were fully transparent about things like Schengen and the Euro.
As I’ve said before, if you buy shares in a company and then the company performs poorly, you don’t ‘reverse your purchase’. You have to accept the new share price when deciding whether to sell.
Ben_C17 on
The fast-track framing misses how long accession actually takes even when everyone’s motivated. Croatia’s process ran seven years. Western Balkans countries have been working on it for over a decade. The UK would theoretically move faster because the legal framework was already aligned as of 2020, but they’ve spent four years diverging subsidy regimes, product standards, data rules. Untangling that and proving compliance with the acquis would take time even if Brussels wanted to move quickly.
The bigger issue nobody’s raised: new members are required to commit to euro adoption and Schengen. The UK had opt-outs. Those aren’t on the table for new entrants anymore. The euro requirement includes hitting convergence criteria, which could theoretically take years to meet, but the political commitment to join has to be there upfront. Same with Schengen no more border controls exemption. Those two alone would sink any referendum before it started.
We tracked the euro question coming up in UK polling at panopsik.com last autumn when rejoin sentiment spiked. Support dropped twenty points the moment you mentioned scrapping the pound. That gap hasn’t closed.
old_witness_987 on
not true
the Brussels administration could fast-track , but then the members would have to say yes including countries that joined after Britain, Greece wants the marbles and Spain wants those tax dodgers
supersonic-bionic on
It wont happen guys. Why are even talking about it every week.
Even if the UK officially wanted to reverse Brexit, they would not get the perfect deal they had before 2016
dotso666 on
Snip snap
Glanwy on
This is siren voices, trying to fuck with our heads. Make no mistake.
sven_bohikus on
Get in!
AlienInOrigin on
Rejoin, but no veto and they must adopt the Euro.
Kentsui on
no special treatment this time around and we’re gucci
UseStrange2382 on
We dont want them.
Seriously, when are we going to institute a EE wide refferendum to alowe a new member in? The refferendum should pass in each and every existing member state and be payed for by the aspuering member.
ThEtZeTzEfLy on
that would be a mistake. if anything, it needs to be harder to join back. and they should be given fewer or none of the privileges they had before.
lispm on
The next UK government could be Reform UK. Case closed.
Emideska on
Am I the only one with a brain cell working? The moment they’re in they will start campaigning to get out again or dismantle EU. Leave them OUT.
Hairy-cheeky-monkey on
Yes, let’s fast track Nigel farange style politics back into the EU and let them try to eat us from the inside out.
They are gone. Move on FFS. They are a chaotic country. We have enough chaos inside already.
The EU needs to concentrate on creating a proper viable service and financial union that will propel our economy, so we don’t have to export capital to unfriendly rival nations like the USA, UK and China. Britain rejoining is the the last thing we need.
real_one_true on
You can rejoin, no problem. Joining back condition: start using the euro.
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Brexit was sold as a historic triumph and delivered less trade, less influence, more bureaucracy and years of self inflicted damage.
Rejoining the EU would not be undoing democracy.
It would be admitting a disastrous mistake and choosing a future that actually benefits Britain.
I don’t think that can happen with Reform leading the polls. Even if they considered it (and that’s a mighty big “if”), they’d probably make demands waaaay beyond the EU’s red lines.
>While it is thought that the EU would include joining the Euro as a key starting point of talks with the UK, multiple sources said this was unlikely to be a red line
Yeah, I think it would be huge red line
If we ever did rejoin we’d be out again in 10 years. The same politicians and media that sold it are still around and would return to blaming everything on the EU.
They were free to leave and they are free to join if they are willing to meet the admission requirements.
EU could do this, EU coulda woulda do that. I’m kind of sick of these “news”.
Fast track? Surely it means vote on it? Or do we not do democracy now.
Just because you don’t like it, doesn’t mean you can erase it.
Yes, it’ll take 20 years instead of 50.
The UK is still very politically unstable. I personally don’t want a Farage led UK back into the EU so they can veto or stifle any EU progress.
As long as Farage, Reform and other political entities hold power in the UK we should keep them outside the EU.
Honestly I think it’s horrible that as a young Briton I am forced to live with the consequences of idiot who probably died of Covid
Please come back, we miss you 🥺
As a Brit, I don’t want the UK to ever have the Euro as currency or to join Schengen, but wants good relations with the EU. I think we can reach a deal around trade and security. This will be beneficial to both UK & EU.
You will find the UK outside of the EU, is serious and pragmatic and therefore a much better partner than someone who is inside the EU and disruptive.
Misleading title.
They could.
But they won’t.
To do this with a dangerous looming anti EU Reform Party threat would be foolish, as they could potentially commit to reversing it a second time if they get into power
UK needs to decide what it wants. EU membership can’t be a revolving door, coming in and out as one pleases.
No they won’t.
The french will find something random to be petty about, again.
This is not a good idea, even if we let them in you just know that they would turn around and vote that Farage idiot in next, we can’t have a member coming in and out of the club all the time.
Good idea and nice they can be flexible. Should be happening already.
That article quotes a number of sources, all of whom contradict each other. Peak journalism.
First of all the UK needs to get it’s act together and decide on what they want.
Considering that this is near impossible the entire thing is moot.
And such articles are just low key blaming the EU for the UK not rejoining, because a realistic return would be anything but fast and with no more privileges for the UK.
Yet again, the issue is being framed as ‘reversing Brexit’, not as a non-member becoming a new member. At this point I’m wondering whether it’s a deliberate obfuscation by the Rejoin crowd, because they know that their support would waver if they were fully transparent about things like Schengen and the Euro.
As I’ve said before, if you buy shares in a company and then the company performs poorly, you don’t ‘reverse your purchase’. You have to accept the new share price when deciding whether to sell.
The fast-track framing misses how long accession actually takes even when everyone’s motivated. Croatia’s process ran seven years. Western Balkans countries have been working on it for over a decade. The UK would theoretically move faster because the legal framework was already aligned as of 2020, but they’ve spent four years diverging subsidy regimes, product standards, data rules. Untangling that and proving compliance with the acquis would take time even if Brussels wanted to move quickly.
The bigger issue nobody’s raised: new members are required to commit to euro adoption and Schengen. The UK had opt-outs. Those aren’t on the table for new entrants anymore. The euro requirement includes hitting convergence criteria, which could theoretically take years to meet, but the political commitment to join has to be there upfront. Same with Schengen no more border controls exemption. Those two alone would sink any referendum before it started.
We tracked the euro question coming up in UK polling at panopsik.com last autumn when rejoin sentiment spiked. Support dropped twenty points the moment you mentioned scrapping the pound. That gap hasn’t closed.
not true
the Brussels administration could fast-track , but then the members would have to say yes including countries that joined after Britain, Greece wants the marbles and Spain wants those tax dodgers
It wont happen guys. Why are even talking about it every week.
Even if the UK officially wanted to reverse Brexit, they would not get the perfect deal they had before 2016
Snip snap
This is siren voices, trying to fuck with our heads. Make no mistake.
Get in!
Rejoin, but no veto and they must adopt the Euro.
no special treatment this time around and we’re gucci
We dont want them.
Seriously, when are we going to institute a EE wide refferendum to alowe a new member in? The refferendum should pass in each and every existing member state and be payed for by the aspuering member.
that would be a mistake. if anything, it needs to be harder to join back. and they should be given fewer or none of the privileges they had before.
The next UK government could be Reform UK. Case closed.
Am I the only one with a brain cell working? The moment they’re in they will start campaigning to get out again or dismantle EU. Leave them OUT.
Yes, let’s fast track Nigel farange style politics back into the EU and let them try to eat us from the inside out.
They are gone. Move on FFS. They are a chaotic country. We have enough chaos inside already.
The EU needs to concentrate on creating a proper viable service and financial union that will propel our economy, so we don’t have to export capital to unfriendly rival nations like the USA, UK and China. Britain rejoining is the the last thing we need.
You can rejoin, no problem. Joining back condition: start using the euro.