We need a government that is about the people. These places should not put a burden on consumers unless it is for those who use their services. We subsidise them both in direct and indirect taxes and now this. People who derive no benefit from them are having to pay.
GerKoll on
Hmmm….I love a good data centre bashing, because its not just the electricity, the RAM and graphic card prices tripled in the last two, three years, but at the same time it seems a bit disingenuous to complain about data centres on an online platform….just saying……
Keith989 on
It must be amazing to have your business subsidised by the tax payer.
Zealousideal-Size689 on
Wondering when someone’s actually gonna put a stop to the cretins that shaft us daily.
shorelined on
Mad that the same companies are about to toss thousands of workers onto the scrapheap as well, these companies are vampires
No-Dog-2280 on
When are we actually going to do something about this?
ItsTyrrellsAlt on
The electrical cost is a headline grabber, but I would venture a guess that the penalties for the carbon and environmental targets that we are missing because of them will probably be equally high. I feel like the true cost is much higher than this alone.
YF422 on
Regular Data centers arent the biggest problem though in all of this, its the AI ones that are a massive issue as they chug on power at multiple times that of a traditional one and the benefits of AI are dubious at best. Worst of all AI has been draining resources from the commercial market and driving up prices of PC components so that part at least is what needs to be dealt with.
AdBoring9620 on
1.4 billion is practically nothing compared to the total household electricity bill. Not to mention industry and businesses which are probably multiples of that.
jools4you on
All the people on here against Data Centres, is so funny. How do you think Reddit is running from a fucking filing cabinet? Probably most with a storage cloud filled with shit that has never been sorted through. But it’s data centres that are the problem not us the users of the data centre.
Ill_Celebration_4215 on
It’s nonsense research that makes no sense. Plus that 1.4bn guessed cost is over a decade. So long predates modern data centres. It’s made up click bait
pgasmaddict on
These data centres should be required to contribute to the additional energy needs instead of asking the normal electricity customer to pay for it. The companies the data centres support pay vast amounts of taxes here and we are in surplus, so why not ask them to pay for the infrastructure and write it off against their taxes and/or divert the taxes directly to provide the infrastructure, rather than let citizens pay for it.
Reaver_XIX on
So Data centers set government policy, very good amazing journalism.
yewEngine on
Is another hidden tax that taxpayers give to big business.
mrbuddymcbuddyface on
Causing an energy crisis, whilst jobs are being lost or not being created due to AI.
And the toxic tech bros who own them poison the minds of the young with their products whilst avoiding tax.
Cill-e-in on
Not an issue if we built energy generation capacity to match.
ails_bales on
So we subsisdise big tech as they cut 20,000 jobs in a year….
Bredius88 on
Data centres should only be allowed if they provide **their own power**.
Those that already exist will have to build their own ‘energy plants’.
Until those are ready, they should also pay the full wack for their electricity (ab)use.
mother_a_god on
The reality is the tech sector contributes an out size portion of all tax revenue in this country. Some estimates put the MNC tax revenue for Ireland (including the employees) at 40bn a year. Others have it higher.
You could argue that data centers are different, and they don’t generate revenue or employment, and while running that’s largely true, but construction does, and alone contributea billons to the economy.
So data centers are still a net contributer to the economy.
Also, new ones will provide much of their own power, so less impact on the grid.
The reality is:
1. being tech positive has been a huge boost to the economy,.and we should continue to be
2. Data centers actively contribute way more than the 1.2bn number here
3. New ones will provide co generation and a lot of their own energy
This article is designed to enrage, not inform.
Long-Fuel3011 on
Jobs and free tax money for infrastructure, go away will ya
ElegantLifeguard4221 on
Wait till they start charging you for water
SeaweedBasic290 on
New research? It was proven a few years ago that data centers were driving up the price of electricity for ordinary households. It became such a worry coming up to elections that the government put a stop to them been built. Now their in power again they’ve given the go ahead for more.
In the US some states have banned data centers due to the high demand of draining fresh water and electricity which is driving up the cost for households. And another big issue was the poor employment rate for the community.
At the start of the 2nd Russian invasion of Ukraine and sanctions on russian gas and oil, the Irish goverment informed the public of possible power cuts if oil reserves run low. . These power cuts they stated would be rolling powercuts at various times.
What they failed to inform the public was it would keep the power on for data centers. So the public would go without power but the systems draining electricity wouldn’t.
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We will look back and consider the construction of these on Irish soil as one the biggest mistakes of this century.
And this as well
*How Big Tech wrote secrecy into EU law to hide data centres’ environmental toll*
[*https://www.investigate-europe.eu/posts/big-tech-data-centres-secrecy-eu-law-environment-footprint*](https://www.investigate-europe.eu/posts/big-tech-data-centres-secrecy-eu-law-environment-footprint)
We need a government that is about the people. These places should not put a burden on consumers unless it is for those who use their services. We subsidise them both in direct and indirect taxes and now this. People who derive no benefit from them are having to pay.
Hmmm….I love a good data centre bashing, because its not just the electricity, the RAM and graphic card prices tripled in the last two, three years, but at the same time it seems a bit disingenuous to complain about data centres on an online platform….just saying……
It must be amazing to have your business subsidised by the tax payer.
Wondering when someone’s actually gonna put a stop to the cretins that shaft us daily.
Mad that the same companies are about to toss thousands of workers onto the scrapheap as well, these companies are vampires
When are we actually going to do something about this?
The electrical cost is a headline grabber, but I would venture a guess that the penalties for the carbon and environmental targets that we are missing because of them will probably be equally high. I feel like the true cost is much higher than this alone.
Regular Data centers arent the biggest problem though in all of this, its the AI ones that are a massive issue as they chug on power at multiple times that of a traditional one and the benefits of AI are dubious at best. Worst of all AI has been draining resources from the commercial market and driving up prices of PC components so that part at least is what needs to be dealt with.
1.4 billion is practically nothing compared to the total household electricity bill. Not to mention industry and businesses which are probably multiples of that.
All the people on here against Data Centres, is so funny. How do you think Reddit is running from a fucking filing cabinet? Probably most with a storage cloud filled with shit that has never been sorted through. But it’s data centres that are the problem not us the users of the data centre.
It’s nonsense research that makes no sense. Plus that 1.4bn guessed cost is over a decade. So long predates modern data centres. It’s made up click bait
These data centres should be required to contribute to the additional energy needs instead of asking the normal electricity customer to pay for it. The companies the data centres support pay vast amounts of taxes here and we are in surplus, so why not ask them to pay for the infrastructure and write it off against their taxes and/or divert the taxes directly to provide the infrastructure, rather than let citizens pay for it.
So Data centers set government policy, very good amazing journalism.
Is another hidden tax that taxpayers give to big business.
Causing an energy crisis, whilst jobs are being lost or not being created due to AI.
And the toxic tech bros who own them poison the minds of the young with their products whilst avoiding tax.
Not an issue if we built energy generation capacity to match.
So we subsisdise big tech as they cut 20,000 jobs in a year….
Data centres should only be allowed if they provide **their own power**.
Those that already exist will have to build their own ‘energy plants’.
Until those are ready, they should also pay the full wack for their electricity (ab)use.
The reality is the tech sector contributes an out size portion of all tax revenue in this country. Some estimates put the MNC tax revenue for Ireland (including the employees) at 40bn a year. Others have it higher.
You could argue that data centers are different, and they don’t generate revenue or employment, and while running that’s largely true, but construction does, and alone contributea billons to the economy.
So data centers are still a net contributer to the economy.
Also, new ones will provide much of their own power, so less impact on the grid.
The reality is:
1. being tech positive has been a huge boost to the economy,.and we should continue to be
2. Data centers actively contribute way more than the 1.2bn number here
3. New ones will provide co generation and a lot of their own energy
This article is designed to enrage, not inform.
Jobs and free tax money for infrastructure, go away will ya
Wait till they start charging you for water
New research? It was proven a few years ago that data centers were driving up the price of electricity for ordinary households. It became such a worry coming up to elections that the government put a stop to them been built. Now their in power again they’ve given the go ahead for more.
In the US some states have banned data centers due to the high demand of draining fresh water and electricity which is driving up the cost for households. And another big issue was the poor employment rate for the community.
At the start of the 2nd Russian invasion of Ukraine and sanctions on russian gas and oil, the Irish goverment informed the public of possible power cuts if oil reserves run low. . These power cuts they stated would be rolling powercuts at various times.
What they failed to inform the public was it would keep the power on for data centers. So the public would go without power but the systems draining electricity wouldn’t.