Scrolling past, I assumed the title was exaggerating. Watched the video and nope, it’s exactly what happened… goodness gracious.
Alklazaris on
I don’t suppose this could be one of those moments where they get put in prison for life. You know under his Majesty’s care or however you say it.
Jaded_Strain_3753 on
This had to have been a targeted attack against someone? Or maybe the restaurant owners? The motive isn’t clear from the article
Dedsnotdead on
If the Government are changing the law to allow anyone over the age of 16 to vote I’m all in favour of removing the right to anonymity for anyone over the age of 16.
I’d like to know who they are.
flopisit32 on
If they’re not found guilty of attempted murder there is something wrong with the British justice system.
Oh, just arson with intent…
Spamgrenade on
That’s one of the most horrific things I’ve seen. Hope they get the book thrown at them.
theflickingnun on
Lets just be absolutely clear on this situation.
These ‘teenagers’ had machetes and set fire to innocent people. Regardless of age, I am all for the removal if these types permanently. There is no rehabilitation possible for these types of people in society, why are we so soft in these situations!
burner4lyf25 on
Anyone remember me arguing about the machete lads having potential for rehabilitation here yesterday?
Not these lads.
The knife crime thing has become some weird hypernormalisation type affair that has all sorts of nuances and potential for discussion between opposing views.
Cannot wrap my head around this, what would posses or psychologically enable someone to do something so recklessly insidious.
If they’ve got a problem with the business or what ever, even though I’m not saying I agree with the approach, but I can understand how someone might want to burn something down as revenge or business or whatever.
Why when it’s open and people in there or whatevr? Is this our equivalent of an attempt at a US style mass shooting?
I don’t know…There’si naive stupid drug dealing, vicious, scornful bitter little bastards with machetes and surrons, and then there’s this – in another league of it’s own entirely.
ash_ninetyone on
Yeah, these teenagers don’t deserve anonymity orders for this shit and the judge should lift it.
Someone who does this has extreme delinquency that makes them a danger to the public, beyond redemption if you’re consciously setting people on fire.
Cralli123 on
Sentenced in October. That sentence better be HEAVY. I’m talking 25 years. Arson with intent to endanger life but let’s call it what it is, multiple attempted murders. These kids should be missing a good chunk of their adult lives behind bars.
JimBo_Drewbacca on
Was this gang related or are they just setting fire to random strangers, this is some evil shit.
bloqed on
lowering the voting age to 16 without adjusting the ages of anonymity or anything else are most curious
billy2bands on
Crikey, news like this really makes me catch my breath.
whoops53 on
What the actual heck is *wrong* with people today? This is insanity! Who goes “Oh I’m bored, lets set some people on fire”
I am….I have no words.
Jeffuk88 on
How tf have they only been charged with arson and not attempted murder? And how is a video of someone running out of a restaurant ON FIRE in ENGLAND not all over the news?!
0Bento on
What was the motive?
If they get anything less that 20 years each then the justice system is truly broken
TheSJDRising on
Sentencing depends on the judge as we’ve learnt. If it’s that one, they’ll be commended on acting responsibly in court and the judge won’t want to tarnish their whole adult lives for a few moments of negligent thinking. Yeah. You remember that judge.
Waxedjacketproblem on
Prepare for counsel to put forth mitigation on grounds of their recent ADHD and ASD diagnosis, low IQ and deprived upbringings, resulting in sentences of 15 years, with time spent on remand deducted and automatic release after they’ve served 2/3. So out in 10 or so.
CarrieKetoenail on
This can’t be real. It just can’t have happened. This is so scary.
DatGuy82772 on
What is wrong with the youth? Saying this as one btw.
jaxon58 on
The amount of damage teenagers cause just to impress each other is staggering.
dallasp2468 on
why wern’t they charged with attempted murder as well
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Proud_Wallaby on
Anyone who is capable of doing such an act lacks basic empathy. This was clearly a planned act with intent to cause serious hard and possibly even death. This is a couple of psychopaths.
Teaching them empathy is very very difficult as their brain is very different. I don’t know how rehabilitated they can become. I think no one should have to find out.
r3xomega on
Forget naming them, just lock them up and throw away the keys.
North_Fortune_4851 on
There was a time when something like this would be headline news, and im just seeing a little anecdote in the metro about a year later.. has the world gotten so diabolical that it barely gets a mention.. just another fireball attack big deal
SeagullSam on
The behavioural bar is in hell. Who are these demons?
milkonyourmustache on
They’re either psychotic enough to believe they’re in a GTA simulation or extremely dangerous and evil psychopaths. Either way they shouldn’t be allowed to roam freely in society. Rehabilitation has limits – people who can go out and do what these two did, to people they don’t even know, can’t be rehabilitated.
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Scrolling past, I assumed the title was exaggerating. Watched the video and nope, it’s exactly what happened… goodness gracious.
I don’t suppose this could be one of those moments where they get put in prison for life. You know under his Majesty’s care or however you say it.
This had to have been a targeted attack against someone? Or maybe the restaurant owners? The motive isn’t clear from the article
If the Government are changing the law to allow anyone over the age of 16 to vote I’m all in favour of removing the right to anonymity for anyone over the age of 16.
I’d like to know who they are.
If they’re not found guilty of attempted murder there is something wrong with the British justice system.
Oh, just arson with intent…
That’s one of the most horrific things I’ve seen. Hope they get the book thrown at them.
Lets just be absolutely clear on this situation.
These ‘teenagers’ had machetes and set fire to innocent people. Regardless of age, I am all for the removal if these types permanently. There is no rehabilitation possible for these types of people in society, why are we so soft in these situations!
Anyone remember me arguing about the machete lads having potential for rehabilitation here yesterday?
Not these lads.
The knife crime thing has become some weird hypernormalisation type affair that has all sorts of nuances and potential for discussion between opposing views.
Cannot wrap my head around this, what would posses or psychologically enable someone to do something so recklessly insidious.
If they’ve got a problem with the business or what ever, even though I’m not saying I agree with the approach, but I can understand how someone might want to burn something down as revenge or business or whatever.
Why when it’s open and people in there or whatevr? Is this our equivalent of an attempt at a US style mass shooting?
I don’t know…There’si naive stupid drug dealing, vicious, scornful bitter little bastards with machetes and surrons, and then there’s this – in another league of it’s own entirely.
Yeah, these teenagers don’t deserve anonymity orders for this shit and the judge should lift it.
Someone who does this has extreme delinquency that makes them a danger to the public, beyond redemption if you’re consciously setting people on fire.
Sentenced in October. That sentence better be HEAVY. I’m talking 25 years. Arson with intent to endanger life but let’s call it what it is, multiple attempted murders. These kids should be missing a good chunk of their adult lives behind bars.
Was this gang related or are they just setting fire to random strangers, this is some evil shit.
lowering the voting age to 16 without adjusting the ages of anonymity or anything else are most curious
Crikey, news like this really makes me catch my breath.
What the actual heck is *wrong* with people today? This is insanity! Who goes “Oh I’m bored, lets set some people on fire”
I am….I have no words.
How tf have they only been charged with arson and not attempted murder? And how is a video of someone running out of a restaurant ON FIRE in ENGLAND not all over the news?!
What was the motive?
If they get anything less that 20 years each then the justice system is truly broken
Sentencing depends on the judge as we’ve learnt. If it’s that one, they’ll be commended on acting responsibly in court and the judge won’t want to tarnish their whole adult lives for a few moments of negligent thinking. Yeah. You remember that judge.
Prepare for counsel to put forth mitigation on grounds of their recent ADHD and ASD diagnosis, low IQ and deprived upbringings, resulting in sentences of 15 years, with time spent on remand deducted and automatic release after they’ve served 2/3. So out in 10 or so.
This can’t be real. It just can’t have happened. This is so scary.
What is wrong with the youth? Saying this as one btw.
The amount of damage teenagers cause just to impress each other is staggering.
why wern’t they charged with attempted murder as well
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Anyone who is capable of doing such an act lacks basic empathy. This was clearly a planned act with intent to cause serious hard and possibly even death. This is a couple of psychopaths.
Teaching them empathy is very very difficult as their brain is very different. I don’t know how rehabilitated they can become. I think no one should have to find out.
Forget naming them, just lock them up and throw away the keys.
There was a time when something like this would be headline news, and im just seeing a little anecdote in the metro about a year later.. has the world gotten so diabolical that it barely gets a mention.. just another fireball attack big deal
The behavioural bar is in hell. Who are these demons?
They’re either psychotic enough to believe they’re in a GTA simulation or extremely dangerous and evil psychopaths. Either way they shouldn’t be allowed to roam freely in society. Rehabilitation has limits – people who can go out and do what these two did, to people they don’t even know, can’t be rehabilitated.