La bici elettrica legale da £ 6000 di un uomo di Birmingham sequestrata e distrutta dalla polizia per errore
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyvl7ld06r8o
di weregonnamakit
La bici elettrica legale da £ 6000 di un uomo di Birmingham sequestrata e distrutta dalla polizia per errore
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyvl7ld06r8o
di weregonnamakit
25 commenti
I don’t get this, why are illegal bikes/scooters even legal to sell/import in the country?
Also why are they illegal, like as long as their speed is like sub 20/30mph who cares. If they want to care then give em number plates and charge £50 road tax on them or something, it’s just dumb that e-scooters are illegal unless I pay per minute on a government one
Even if the police make an error in the heat of the moment on the street, surely there needs to be an opportunity for people to put in some paperwork before their property is *destroyed*?
The need to criminalise and target any innovation or new thinking is a cancer to the UK.
The amount of cars I see driving around daily without any challenge from the police and then you see them wasting time of someone taking their kids to school on a bike? Sort out your priorities.
>Police tested Zandi’s bike by lifting the back wheel and spinning the pedals as fast as they could, then making a note of the bike’s display.
>The bike was seized as it showed a speed over the limit of 15.5mph.
>But the test was flawed, as all it showed was how fast police were manually able to make the wheel turn, not the power of the motor.
They probably think putting the car in reverse decreases the milage if they’re using that test and think it’s accurate.
Other than ego explain to me why they can’t admit their mistake, replace the bike and expunge his record.
It’s honestly not hard for police to maintain a list of all legal e-bike models in the UK, there should at least be a website that lists verified models. Tern is a well known brand.
“Police tested Zandi’s bike by lifting the back wheel and spinning the
pedals as fast as they could, then making a note of the bike’s display.”
How do people this dumb manage to join the force?
Genuinely even if you have never even heard of an ebike, just by virtue of having lived in our physical reality surely you have learnt that how fast things go when you push them is just dependent on how much you push them.
“The bike was actually legal and funded by cash from Birmingham City Council as part of a scheme to reduce pollution in the city.”
I’m sorry what? We’re funding £6,000 e-bikes for people?
Surely the police can have a list of E bike models that are UK compliance regulated.
Yes some are modified and have cracked software / modified motors etc installed but surly you can see if someone has pulled it apart and done a bunch mods vs a stock bike.
How stupid can one be. They well of course if you just lift the back of the bike and spin you can get it above 15mph that’s just common sense. Did they think the brakes would come on at 15mph?? And they’re responsible for our safety. …
Summary punishments rarely work out when that kinda dough is at stake. But hey! They made the roads safe for people to drive their cars!
Honestly, the government talk a good fight on the environment, but the instant ebikes started getting good they banned them. You went from being able to go around at 15Mph on a twist-and-go to having to have a lame pedal-assist model with no public consultation whatsoever, it just made life slightly more convenient for beurocrats.
The inevitable result is scenes like this, as well as chavvy kids riding around on dangerous junkheaps. Because if you just make fun things illegal, you won’t get rid of them. You’ll just get rid of all regulations surrounding them. Same thing with drugs.
“Your eBike has been impounded.”
“Your eBike has been crushed into a cube.”
“You have thirty minutes to move your cube.”
If they’ve destroyed it, presumably they can’t actually defend this in court as there won’t be a hope of producing evidence.
yeh, even a small amount of training within the police on this crackdown would have prevented this gross incompetence.
I’m all for a crackdown on illegal ebikes, but it needs to be done by trained police, not just idiots with a badge and a quota.
This is absolutely fucking infuriating!
Not only did they invent a faulty non scientific test, they base the entire decision to destroy someone’s property on that test alone, and no dispute!? What sort of authoritarian police force is that!?
What an absolutely stupid test they undertook.
Literally droolers.
And once legal fees are added the cost to the tax payer will likely exceed 50k. Will anyone be held accountable for that ?
**This is gross police stupidity.** They should not be able to destroy anything until a court review of any seizure is made.
When I say that the people who work for the police are people who can’t do any other job with the slightest requirement for decent education, I am not joking.
Well, at least they are doing something about illegal bikes…
Meanwhile they do absolutely nothing to deal with the kids on e-scooters who are genuinely going to hurt themselves riding around on roads or other people when flying through paths and parks.
And yet at the same time there’s a bunch of idiots riding around dangerously on unregistered quadbikes, making huge amounts of noise, ignoring traffic lights, and doing stunts.
Literally down the road. Like 10 minutes walk. Why can’t the police get those idiots instead?
Imagine that, Birmingham police having an operation to seize illegal e-bikes.
But not having anyone who knows what constitutes an illegal e-bike, on said operation.
British policing is an absolute shambles.
Idiot police. This is exactly what I worry about with my fat bike but a cargo bike is even more obviously a slow cargo vehicle.
“We have since received a complaint and that is being g reviewed” – read “we made an obvious error but we won’t admit it without going to court at the taxpayers expense and further inconveniencing the owner”