Why? I am not familiar with any politics between the two countries
PfromC on
These are six conditions that Montenegro can easily meet. If they refuse, it only shows that they are not interested in maintaining good-neighbourly relations.
It should also be noted that the current coalition government in Montenegro depends on a Serbian nationalist party that is openly hostile toward Croatia
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haskell_jedi on
This is a disgrace. Montenegro, North Macedonia, and Albania should have joined the EU already, and Croatia exercising these grudges has long term geopolitical downsides for all of Europe.
bg_colore on
Surprise, surprise
DomagojDoc on
This is just symbolic stuff due to Socialist Republic of Montenegro attacking Croatia in 90s.
These are not the demands you make when you want to block someone’s accession to the EU, it’s something that can be solved in 2 days.
kargaen on
Very rich that a recent member, who by the way benefits greatly from becoming a member, is blocking another country from joining.
New-Ranger-8960 on
It’s funny that EU vetoes will unintentionally solve the Balkans’ problems, forcing progress regardless of whether those involved want it or not.
Flat-Coffee1657 on
Croatia’s demands are mostly sound and they are in the position to make them. Especially those concerning the status of missing persons, i don’t see an issue. It is not that Croatia is against Montenegro in the EU, it is that Croatia supporting Montenegro’s eventual EU membership does not mean approving every step of its accession process regardless of unresolved disputes. Legally, Croatia is within its rights under EU rules to block or delay negotiating chapters. Politically, whether it is appropriate is mostly a matter of opinion.
InsideScratch4581 on
I understand them.
JimillyBillyBob on
If Montenegro is blocked due to things like that, imagine Ukraine accession talks with all what is happening between them and their neighbors
emuu1 on
As a Croat I see this as our government extending a handshake to Montenegro. It may not be pleasant to fulfill the demands immediately, but the payoff in the future of our partnership, alliance and neighborhood will be far more worth than these demands.
I wish all the best for our komšije.
ABoutDeSouffle on
>the return of the training ship Jadran
That always cracks me up. Can’t be more petty than this.
CrazyWriterHippo on
Some wounds run deep. But then, the grievances about that war go 6 ways, all of them blaming each other. All of them with cause to hate. But the only way forward is to let the hate go. We’ll see how much of the Balkan is willing to do that.
JariLobel on
Giving back Croatian property in Boka Kotorska will be an absolute shitshow. Some prime real estate could go back to the rightful owners.
Banjoschmanjo on
As is their right
BrittaWasRight on
Club’s full.
TuaMaeDeQuatroPatas on
Montegro? The prime minister of Portugal?
Puzzleheaded_Bus7706 on
Croatia move is absolutely nationalist one.
Montenegro can make absolutely same claims towards Croatia, but noone is interested.
Also one of the questions is ownership of certain 80 year old ship. Yugoslav ship, paid mostly by Serbia, currently in Montenegro, wanted by Croatia. Shitshow.
honkycronky on
what’s the issue regarding this ship? why do Croats care so much? didn’t the Serbs pay the majority of the cost of building the ship? it was never the property of Croatia as an independent state and it was built in Hamburg
am I missing something?
Awkward_War_6068 on
Balkans be balkaning again.
Saalle88 on
Its funny how everyone is talking about such a small county as Serbia is. Suddenly everyone talks about our army, talk shit about our people, act smart and pretend they are history and polotical experts. But what makes me happy is that this is only on Reddit.
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Why? I am not familiar with any politics between the two countries
These are six conditions that Montenegro can easily meet. If they refuse, it only shows that they are not interested in maintaining good-neighbourly relations.
It should also be noted that the current coalition government in Montenegro depends on a Serbian nationalist party that is openly hostile toward Croatia
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This is a disgrace. Montenegro, North Macedonia, and Albania should have joined the EU already, and Croatia exercising these grudges has long term geopolitical downsides for all of Europe.
Surprise, surprise
This is just symbolic stuff due to Socialist Republic of Montenegro attacking Croatia in 90s.
These are not the demands you make when you want to block someone’s accession to the EU, it’s something that can be solved in 2 days.
Very rich that a recent member, who by the way benefits greatly from becoming a member, is blocking another country from joining.
It’s funny that EU vetoes will unintentionally solve the Balkans’ problems, forcing progress regardless of whether those involved want it or not.
Croatia’s demands are mostly sound and they are in the position to make them. Especially those concerning the status of missing persons, i don’t see an issue. It is not that Croatia is against Montenegro in the EU, it is that Croatia supporting Montenegro’s eventual EU membership does not mean approving every step of its accession process regardless of unresolved disputes. Legally, Croatia is within its rights under EU rules to block or delay negotiating chapters. Politically, whether it is appropriate is mostly a matter of opinion.
I understand them.
If Montenegro is blocked due to things like that, imagine Ukraine accession talks with all what is happening between them and their neighbors
As a Croat I see this as our government extending a handshake to Montenegro. It may not be pleasant to fulfill the demands immediately, but the payoff in the future of our partnership, alliance and neighborhood will be far more worth than these demands.
I wish all the best for our komšije.
>the return of the training ship Jadran
That always cracks me up. Can’t be more petty than this.
Some wounds run deep. But then, the grievances about that war go 6 ways, all of them blaming each other. All of them with cause to hate. But the only way forward is to let the hate go. We’ll see how much of the Balkan is willing to do that.
Giving back Croatian property in Boka Kotorska will be an absolute shitshow. Some prime real estate could go back to the rightful owners.
As is their right
Club’s full.
Montegro? The prime minister of Portugal?
Croatia move is absolutely nationalist one.
Montenegro can make absolutely same claims towards Croatia, but noone is interested.
Also one of the questions is ownership of certain 80 year old ship. Yugoslav ship, paid mostly by Serbia, currently in Montenegro, wanted by Croatia. Shitshow.
what’s the issue regarding this ship? why do Croats care so much? didn’t the Serbs pay the majority of the cost of building the ship? it was never the property of Croatia as an independent state and it was built in Hamburg
am I missing something?
Balkans be balkaning again.
Its funny how everyone is talking about such a small county as Serbia is. Suddenly everyone talks about our army, talk shit about our people, act smart and pretend they are history and polotical experts. But what makes me happy is that this is only on Reddit.
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