I’ve had mice with replaceable batteries for years, I don’t know who would replace the whole device when the issue is just a dead battery.
KrumpirovZlatan on
I don’t understand this “he expects users will replace their 50$-100$ mice more often than batteries”
Does he think 100$ mouse is cheap?
zhnki on
Logitech sold mice that didn’t have replaceable batteries? TIL
im_bi_strapping on
There are mice with no replaceable batteries now?
Lumbardo on
I just use wired mice
Tight_File2220 on
Last time I put a battery into a mouse it stopped moving.
ON163 on
Normally when my mice run out of energy, i just give them water and a little snack. maybe a little nap too if they’re really beat 😉
Upbeat_Parking_7794 on
To be honest, my Logitech mouse never got damaged because of batteries, just got old because of contact with my hands and buttons stop working properly.
oskich on
I just replaced the battery on [my Logitech Trackball](https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Logitech+MX+Ergo+Battery+Replacement/145871), it took me five minutes to do. The only difficult part was to find some new double-sided tape to attach the new battery with, the battery itself had a quick release connector..
Limp-Munkee69 on
I’ve had Logitech mice for years that take AA, don’t really get the big deal tbh
Don_T_Blink on
I’m totally out of the loop. I am European who lives in the US and I still have two Logitech mice that have replaceable AA batteries. They are probably ~10 years old. When did that change?
D1nkcool on
The fact that they actually bother to make two different variants of it tells you everything you need to know about how much money planned obsolescence makes them.
Flaky_Lychee6351 on
Are we also going to get wireless earphones with replaceable batteries or can they get away with the loophole of water resistance?
fafros on
I have been using logitech mouses for 7 years – had to replace the contact switches 3 times. Never had any issues with the battery.
SandVir on
Are they also going to do something about the keyboards that supposedly don’t work anymore…? But if you connect them to Linux, there is no problem.
ClaudesAndRaine on
Doesn’t affect me because I use wired, but this is hella cool for those that it does
arbicus123 on
“he expects users to replace $50-$100 mice more often than they replace their batteries.”
If your products are good they wont
pinkfatcap on
It was the first thing I checked when I wanted to buy a wireless mouse. I wanted one that I can just throw a fresh AA anytime, and logitech disappointed.
flaming_monocle on
tldr for EU: Companies are now offering you repairable products, but only because they have to. In order to make you dislike the change, they’re making the mice heavier and worse, as well as increasing the price. Keep the pressure on, it’s working.
tldr for US: Companies could easily offer you repairable products, and are showing you right now that they will only ever do so when forced to by the government. A totally unregulated market *is failing you* and nations that regulate it get results instantly.
Jlx_27 on
I have a wired mouse instead.
RedEyedPig on
I dont care about the battery in the logitech mice when the scroll wheel is always the first thing to break. And they always break within a year after the warranty ends. Ive had 4 Logitech mice in 13 years and wheel breaking was the reason to replace them each time.
Latest one I replaced I actually fully dissasembled and found that the rod that connects the wheel to the sensor is only a millimeter thick so obviously its gonna wear down and break first. BS design but I just like how well the G series mice fit my hand so am just gonna keep buying new ones.
SeljD_SLO on
Battery in my old G502 lightspeed still holds charge like new (charging it once a month) while rubber is melting, plastic body is discoloured and micro usb port works only at certain angles (good thing you have wireless charging) While it’s nice, the battery is the last problem with products like this
GrynaiTaip on
I’ll stick to wired for my desktop pc, thanks.
For the laptop I’ve got M705, it has replaceable batteries (2xAA) but I don’t replace them. They’ve been going for some 4 years now, daily use.
I can’t explain how it works, but it is a pretty efficient mouse.
matthieuC on
Company to make mice that don’t give cancer for the EU market
dkcyw on
all my logitech mouse in my 40 years of life have always been personally replaceable with AA batteries.
yourlocalbubble on
Exact reason why I’ll never touch a Steelseries product. Their support is terrible. I was gifted a 300 eur headset by my father that passed away (5 months after he gave it to me) and it broke 8 months in. I didn’t have the receipt cause it was a gift, they refused to help and also didn’t tell me that their headset was about to hit end of life so I haven’t had a headset for almost 4 years and just an expensive paper weight. Absolute trash company and product.
edit: end of life means no more batteries being sold so even though I kept trying to use it, it was impossible to get batteries.
Happy_Feet333 on
My Logitech M575 trackball mouse uses one AA battery. And that battery tends to last for about 18 months. I’m not sure why Logitech is going to go through the effort of creating a non-replaceable battery version of this mouse for every market except the EU, now.
d_lev on
I understand that not everyone can but I replace/upgrade even the switches on my mice. It’s not difficult and I’m not spending 50$ or more on a new mouse when I can fix it for a few dollars.
Edit: forgot to mention you can do that with batteries as well. Most have part numbers or stats so you can find replacements.
GoldilokZ_Zone on
I don’t think it matters….a logitech mouse will stop working properly long before the non-replaceable batteries are close to dead.
hughk on
My Mxantwhere 2S Is alewady battery replaceable. You peel of the feet, unscrew four screws and then you can open the mouse. The Li-Ion battery is attached via a connector.
linuxares on
It will start with EU until they realize it’s stupid to have two production lines and make it global
Saratje on
I hope those companies won’t be a jerk by replacing the space for the little weights (Logitech often has those) with an accessible battery. For people like me with a handicap a weighted down mouse makes the difference between being able to hold the mouse still and not being able to click things.
IntelligentDetail338 on
Not me about to write how this is animal cruelty before I realised what I was reading… Definitely time to go to bed.
Tsobe_RK on
USA folks enjoying the freedom to get fucked by companies
Aggressive_Row_8323 on
Maybe EU should mandate a global standardisation rule.
Stuff sold inside EU = stuff sold outside EU, as a market access requirement and to prevent this type of BS.
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Good for European consumers.
I’ve had mice with replaceable batteries for years, I don’t know who would replace the whole device when the issue is just a dead battery.
I don’t understand this “he expects users will replace their 50$-100$ mice more often than batteries”
Does he think 100$ mouse is cheap?
Logitech sold mice that didn’t have replaceable batteries? TIL
There are mice with no replaceable batteries now?
I just use wired mice
Last time I put a battery into a mouse it stopped moving.
Normally when my mice run out of energy, i just give them water and a little snack. maybe a little nap too if they’re really beat 😉
To be honest, my Logitech mouse never got damaged because of batteries, just got old because of contact with my hands and buttons stop working properly.
I just replaced the battery on [my Logitech Trackball](https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Logitech+MX+Ergo+Battery+Replacement/145871), it took me five minutes to do. The only difficult part was to find some new double-sided tape to attach the new battery with, the battery itself had a quick release connector..
I’ve had Logitech mice for years that take AA, don’t really get the big deal tbh
I’m totally out of the loop. I am European who lives in the US and I still have two Logitech mice that have replaceable AA batteries. They are probably ~10 years old. When did that change?
The fact that they actually bother to make two different variants of it tells you everything you need to know about how much money planned obsolescence makes them.
Are we also going to get wireless earphones with replaceable batteries or can they get away with the loophole of water resistance?
I have been using logitech mouses for 7 years – had to replace the contact switches 3 times. Never had any issues with the battery.
Are they also going to do something about the keyboards that supposedly don’t work anymore…? But if you connect them to Linux, there is no problem.
Doesn’t affect me because I use wired, but this is hella cool for those that it does
“he expects users to replace $50-$100 mice more often than they replace their batteries.”
If your products are good they wont
It was the first thing I checked when I wanted to buy a wireless mouse. I wanted one that I can just throw a fresh AA anytime, and logitech disappointed.
tldr for EU: Companies are now offering you repairable products, but only because they have to. In order to make you dislike the change, they’re making the mice heavier and worse, as well as increasing the price. Keep the pressure on, it’s working.
tldr for US: Companies could easily offer you repairable products, and are showing you right now that they will only ever do so when forced to by the government. A totally unregulated market *is failing you* and nations that regulate it get results instantly.
I have a wired mouse instead.
I dont care about the battery in the logitech mice when the scroll wheel is always the first thing to break. And they always break within a year after the warranty ends. Ive had 4 Logitech mice in 13 years and wheel breaking was the reason to replace them each time.
Latest one I replaced I actually fully dissasembled and found that the rod that connects the wheel to the sensor is only a millimeter thick so obviously its gonna wear down and break first. BS design but I just like how well the G series mice fit my hand so am just gonna keep buying new ones.
Battery in my old G502 lightspeed still holds charge like new (charging it once a month) while rubber is melting, plastic body is discoloured and micro usb port works only at certain angles (good thing you have wireless charging) While it’s nice, the battery is the last problem with products like this
I’ll stick to wired for my desktop pc, thanks.
For the laptop I’ve got M705, it has replaceable batteries (2xAA) but I don’t replace them. They’ve been going for some 4 years now, daily use.
I can’t explain how it works, but it is a pretty efficient mouse.
Company to make mice that don’t give cancer for the EU market
all my logitech mouse in my 40 years of life have always been personally replaceable with AA batteries.
Exact reason why I’ll never touch a Steelseries product. Their support is terrible. I was gifted a 300 eur headset by my father that passed away (5 months after he gave it to me) and it broke 8 months in. I didn’t have the receipt cause it was a gift, they refused to help and also didn’t tell me that their headset was about to hit end of life so I haven’t had a headset for almost 4 years and just an expensive paper weight. Absolute trash company and product.
edit: end of life means no more batteries being sold so even though I kept trying to use it, it was impossible to get batteries.
My Logitech M575 trackball mouse uses one AA battery. And that battery tends to last for about 18 months. I’m not sure why Logitech is going to go through the effort of creating a non-replaceable battery version of this mouse for every market except the EU, now.
I understand that not everyone can but I replace/upgrade even the switches on my mice. It’s not difficult and I’m not spending 50$ or more on a new mouse when I can fix it for a few dollars.
Edit: forgot to mention you can do that with batteries as well. Most have part numbers or stats so you can find replacements.
I don’t think it matters….a logitech mouse will stop working properly long before the non-replaceable batteries are close to dead.
My Mxantwhere 2S Is alewady battery replaceable. You peel of the feet, unscrew four screws and then you can open the mouse. The Li-Ion battery is attached via a connector.
It will start with EU until they realize it’s stupid to have two production lines and make it global
I hope those companies won’t be a jerk by replacing the space for the little weights (Logitech often has those) with an accessible battery. For people like me with a handicap a weighted down mouse makes the difference between being able to hold the mouse still and not being able to click things.
Not me about to write how this is animal cruelty before I realised what I was reading… Definitely time to go to bed.
USA folks enjoying the freedom to get fucked by companies
Maybe EU should mandate a global standardisation rule.
Stuff sold inside EU = stuff sold outside EU, as a market access requirement and to prevent this type of BS.