Last Saturday we organised a blind tasting with 16 supermarket pilsners in the Netherlands (trying to stick to only Dutch brands). Most of the people on the panel are homebrewers or beer enthusiasts – so there was some anxiety over this tasting haha.
The image shows the outcomes of the tasting. The names have been removed for privacy reasons, and in some cases to prevent embarrassment 😉
We scored on a simplified BJCP score card system with a scale between 0 and 10 on 3 factors – taking the average as the final score:
1. Aroma + Appearance (every aspect before tasting)
2. Flavour
3. General impression (mouthfeel + preference)
The main take-away? Supermarket lagers are not great in general – the average scores were not high. Also they are really hard to tell apart when tasting blind. “Premium” brands did not always do better with our tasters. Amstel and Bavaria were the clear blind tasted winners – but the budget option Schultenbräu (Aldi) and Kordaat (Lidl) were not far behind. Another surprise is that ultra budget beer Pitt did surprisingly okay with our panel.
Unfortunately there was an issue with the Gulpener. It tasted of liquorice and fennel – as if the hops they used were severely oxidised. I personally drink Gulpener Urpils so this was a disappointment to me. Also Grolsch and De Klok (same brewery) scoring so low is interesting since large parts of The Netherlands have a very positive bias towards Grolsch.
The blind tasting format was really fun and our group will repeat this for sure. With better beers though.. Very unscientific and biased – but hopefully fun for people to read through (and most likely disagree).
facie97 on
Nou ben ik geen bier connoisseur, maar Amstel en Bavaria bovenaan?…
Valk93 on
Ik ben het zelden zó oneens geweest met iets
goperson on
My personal preference is from the bottom of the list to above. What that say about me?
DutchTerror2 on
Westerlingen waarschijnlijk hebben geen smaak …
CheapSultan on
Mijn instinctieve reactie is om het enorm oneens te zijn. Maar ben eigenlijk vooral heel erg benieuwd hoe ik alles zelf zou beoordelen in een blinde proeverij. Binnenkort maar eens doen.
AnnaAnjo on
So did they taste all the beers after each other? Since 16 beers after each other would interfere with the taste 😉
Also preference is a thing 😄 because hell no Heineken above both Grolsch, Brand and Hertog Jan?
Also are the tasters Dutch or from another country?
Formal-Secret-294 on
While with a sample size of 9 people, you’ll off course have some unreliable results and it will surely show some sampling bias (especially since it’s not random people), I’m actually surprised at how high Heineken is scoring!
What with how it’s commonly criticized by the Dutch as being a piss-poor choice of Dutch beer (in my experience, which also is a sampling bias haha).
mattijn13 on
Having Amstel, Bavaria and Heineken at the top only proves that whoever did this tasting has absolute garbage taste.
haak1979 on
Op zich mooi om te zien dat een eigen mouterij toch doorwerkt in de smaak.
Bier ‘kenners’, zeker uit NL, ff lekker generaliseren houden niet zo van zoet bier. NLErs willen bitter. Amstelnis de minst zoete van dit stel imho
ArcticBiologist on
Komen jullie uit Holland?
JorMath on
Als ik de resultaten zo in ogenschouw neem zijn de testers het onderling ook niet bepaald met elkaar eens, dus dat bewijst alleen maar dat smaak ontzettend subjectief is.
De enige waar de testers het behoorlijk over eens lijken te zijn is Gulpener.
99Pimz on
Ik heb dit ook een keer gedaan samen met mijn studentenhuis, bij ons kwam hier verassend ook Amstel uit als winnaar. Leuk om te zien dat dat bij jullie ook is gebeurd.
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Last Saturday we organised a blind tasting with 16 supermarket pilsners in the Netherlands (trying to stick to only Dutch brands). Most of the people on the panel are homebrewers or beer enthusiasts – so there was some anxiety over this tasting haha.
The image shows the outcomes of the tasting. The names have been removed for privacy reasons, and in some cases to prevent embarrassment 😉
The weighted average results:
1 Amstel Pilsener
2 Bavaria Pilsener
3 Schultenbräu Premium Pilsner
4 Kordaat Pilsener Premium
5 Heineken Pils
6 Brand Pilsener
7 Pitt Bier
8 Hertog Jan Bier
9 AH brouwers Premium Bier
10 Schutters Premium Pilsener
11 Export Bier
12 Dors Premium Pilsner
13 Alfa Edel Pils
14 De Klok Bier
15 Grolsch Premium Pils
16 Gulpener Pilsner (bio)
We scored on a simplified BJCP score card system with a scale between 0 and 10 on 3 factors – taking the average as the final score:
1. Aroma + Appearance (every aspect before tasting)
2. Flavour
3. General impression (mouthfeel + preference)
The main take-away? Supermarket lagers are not great in general – the average scores were not high. Also they are really hard to tell apart when tasting blind. “Premium” brands did not always do better with our tasters. Amstel and Bavaria were the clear blind tasted winners – but the budget option Schultenbräu (Aldi) and Kordaat (Lidl) were not far behind. Another surprise is that ultra budget beer Pitt did surprisingly okay with our panel.
Unfortunately there was an issue with the Gulpener. It tasted of liquorice and fennel – as if the hops they used were severely oxidised. I personally drink Gulpener Urpils so this was a disappointment to me. Also Grolsch and De Klok (same brewery) scoring so low is interesting since large parts of The Netherlands have a very positive bias towards Grolsch.
The blind tasting format was really fun and our group will repeat this for sure. With better beers though.. Very unscientific and biased – but hopefully fun for people to read through (and most likely disagree).
Nou ben ik geen bier connoisseur, maar Amstel en Bavaria bovenaan?…
Ik ben het zelden zó oneens geweest met iets
My personal preference is from the bottom of the list to above. What that say about me?
Westerlingen waarschijnlijk hebben geen smaak …
Mijn instinctieve reactie is om het enorm oneens te zijn. Maar ben eigenlijk vooral heel erg benieuwd hoe ik alles zelf zou beoordelen in een blinde proeverij. Binnenkort maar eens doen.
So did they taste all the beers after each other? Since 16 beers after each other would interfere with the taste 😉
Also preference is a thing 😄 because hell no Heineken above both Grolsch, Brand and Hertog Jan?
Also are the tasters Dutch or from another country?
While with a sample size of 9 people, you’ll off course have some unreliable results and it will surely show some sampling bias (especially since it’s not random people), I’m actually surprised at how high Heineken is scoring!
What with how it’s commonly criticized by the Dutch as being a piss-poor choice of Dutch beer (in my experience, which also is a sampling bias haha).
Having Amstel, Bavaria and Heineken at the top only proves that whoever did this tasting has absolute garbage taste.
Op zich mooi om te zien dat een eigen mouterij toch doorwerkt in de smaak.
Bier ‘kenners’, zeker uit NL, ff lekker generaliseren houden niet zo van zoet bier. NLErs willen bitter. Amstelnis de minst zoete van dit stel imho
Komen jullie uit Holland?
Als ik de resultaten zo in ogenschouw neem zijn de testers het onderling ook niet bepaald met elkaar eens, dus dat bewijst alleen maar dat smaak ontzettend subjectief is.
De enige waar de testers het behoorlijk over eens lijken te zijn is Gulpener.
Ik heb dit ook een keer gedaan samen met mijn studentenhuis, bij ons kwam hier verassend ook Amstel uit als winnaar. Leuk om te zien dat dat bij jullie ook is gebeurd.
Can you comment on your blinding procedure?