Ciao a tutti, è successo ieri e mi lascia ancora scosso. Ho una domanda alla fine. Stavo camminando verso la stazione ferroviaria di Bülach a mezzanotte e mezza quando in Dammstrasse 3 ragazzi sui 20 anni si sono avvicinati a me chiedendomi una sigaretta. All’improvviso mi hanno affiancato e il ragazzo davanti mi ha spruzzato del peperoncino. Sono scappato più velocemente che potevo ma a quanto pare non mi hanno inseguito abbastanza velocemente. Sono tornato a casa del mio amico e ho pulito tutto. Probabilmente i miei occhiali mi hanno aiutato a evitare una reazione peggiore. La mia domanda è: cosa faccio adesso? * Probabilmente mi sono infortunato alle gambe perché in passato ho avuto infortuni ai tendini del ginocchio e ora mi fanno molto male. Probabilmente dovrei mostrarlo oggi al medico per conferma (in modo che eventuali complicazioni siano coperte dall’assicurazione, credo…?) * Devo presentare un Anzeige gegen Unbekannt? Cioè, so che non li cercheranno, ma ha qualche vantaggio nel farlo? Forse anche per il motivo sopra indicato con un’assicurazione in caso di complicazioni mediche alle gambe? Tutto sommato, sono grato che non mi abbiano picchiato o derubato. Probabilmente era solo per lo “scherzo” di farlo. Sono ancora molto scosso e potrei prendermi a calci per non aver creduto al mio istinto e aver semplicemente evitato quella strada. Qualsiasi consiglio o parola di supporto è benvenuta in questo momento. AGGIORNAMENTO: Diversi commenti nel thread riportano esattamente la stessa cosa, anche a Bülach. Ci sono stati, a quanto pare. Secondo i commenti, vogliono assolutamente ferire e derubare le persone, quindi sono stato semplicemente capace e abbastanza veloce. Prima che me ne dimentichi, ecco alcuni dettagli: * Il ragazzo principale aveva i capelli chiari/biondi, possibilmente biondi. Ricordo vagamente un sottosquadro o capelli broccoli * il ragazzo era più alto, potenzialmente con radici balcaniche a giudicare dai lineamenti del viso che ricordo. Capelli castani e vestito azzurro. * Il ragazzo principale era posizionato alla luce di un lampione, gli altri stavano a distanza da lui. Il ragazzo principale poi si è allontanato dalla luce ma ha continuato a guardare verso di me. * i vestiti erano generalmente casual/simili a cappucci * c’erano due spray. Il primo era più lontano, il secondo era vicino ma soprattutto mi mancava perché mi stavo già voltando per fuggire * con l’adrenalina e grazie agli occhiali, dopo sono riuscito a vedere per ben 5 minuti. La prima volta che mi sono voltato indietro mentre correvo, li ho visti inseguirmi. Alle visite successive, dopo aver gridato omicidio cruento, si erano voltati indietro. * Appena il mio amico mi ha trovato (uscendomi incontro per strada) ha telefonato alla Notruf (polizia). La risposta è stata che se non sono intorno a noi e se non siamo in pericolo immediato, non possono fare nulla. Ci ha consigliato di fare Strafanzeige e basta. Questo avvenne intorno alle 00:37, quindi circa 6 minuti dopo l’incidente. Intendiamoci che la stazione Kantonspolizei è a 450m, quindi bastano 3 minuti di macchina (a velocità normale) [per Google Maps](https://www.google.com/maps/@47.5217765,8.5392291,3a,75y,41.5h,90t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipNqcT_jCs4ORtVSCmcr9NttWvAJDBkJNG1TIHYf!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F% 2Flh5.googleusercontent .com%2Fp%2FAF1QipNqcT_jCs4ORtVSCmcr9NttWvAJDBkJNG1TIHYf%3Dw900-h600-k-no-pi0-ya9.4967053140846-ro0-fo90!7i12000!8i6000?coh=205410&entry=ttu).

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    1. Unusual_Strategy_965 on

      >Should I go file an Anzeige gegen Unbekannt?

      Why not? It takes 15 minutes to go to the police and make the report. It enters the statistics, it might lead to added patrols, more security etc. And if the guys get caught, that’s the only way they get punished. Since you got hurt, you may be eligible for Schadenersatz, possibly even Genugtuung if you got severely injured (hospitalized).

    2. RunAndHeal on

      A piece of advice. Next time something similar happens, show them your wrist and say no time sorry. Don’t stop! I’m sure no one will die if you don’t help them.

    3. ExtraTNT on

      Even just for the record… if you get some sort of complications out of if…

    4. Sorry_I_am_late on

      I’m so sorry this happened to you, that sounds awful. Feeling safe in Switzerland is one of the things I value most about living here and it makes me sad that you experienced this. Sending you a hug.

    5. Entremeada on

      >Should I go file an Anzeige gegen Unbekannt?

      Definitely! Chances are high they did the same thing and other bs to other people. If they’ll get catched this will add up.

    6. Jeck_Doespaddel on

      First, Switzerland is not safe anymore at night. Simply too many idiots roaming the streets. Secondly, go to the police and file but also be aware that they will very likely never catch those guys. Pursuing a lawsuit will be a non-starter also keeping in mind that cantonal police has other things on their bucket list Friday night such as DUI testing, supervising traffic at large and – very resource consuming – hauling DUI offenders back and forth to hospitals for testing.

    7. File a complaint at the police for sure. Most insurance require you to have done it, or they won’t pay.

      There should also be a hospital in your canton with a « unit for violence » where you can go and they will prepare a report with your injuries that can be used in the criminal procedure then (and with your insurance).

      I can’t say for sure from your message if what you went through is serious enough to be labeled as « common assault ». If that’s the case, you could seek help at « opferhilfe ».

    8. SmackBroshgood on

      >Should I go file an Anzeige gegen Unbekannt?

      Yes. Obviously.

    9. I wish the punishment for such type of “prank” would be castration.

    10. I am sorry this happened to you.

      But why are you on reddit instead of at the police station? Go there!

    11. LitoBrooks on

      You have to file a complaint. Absolutely! As it is not just a theft, loss notice but bodily injury you cannot do it all online in the E police app. You may get a time slot in the app for an appointment at the police station and don’t have to lose 2 hours waiting. Do it!

    12. SkyNo234 on

      Definitely see a doctor! To check for lasting injuries and at the same time you have documentation.

    13. Yeah, i moved out of Bülach because it is a fucking shithole… maybe reach out to newsletters as well

    14. Happened to me in Germany, too. I would file an „Anzeige“, because of the probability they will do it again.

    15. SaltyIllustrador on

      the same thing happened to my brothers.. also in bülach around midnight wtf

    16. Status-Prompt8014 on

      This happened to a friend of mine in Kreis 3 two months ago. He wasn’t so lucky, first they ( 4 guys around 20yo pepper sprayed him first and then hurt him really bad. The dint steal anything from him. He went to the police, but the didn’t catch them. He saw them in a black BMW ( he thinks)

    17. danxi_banxi on

      What. My brother in law had the exact same thing happen to him in November, at the exact same place! Go to the police! 

    18. Soapbox_Ponch on

      They were trying to rob you dude, you just turned on the gas before they could compose themselves to insist upon the loot. Please file a report.

    19. dimsum69420 on

      not reporting it might help you avoid additional stress but I think it would be helpful for the police to at least when and where bad stuff happens.

    20. Nervous_Green4783 on

      Do should do the anzeige. Eventually those bastards will get caught because they will keep doing stupid shit like that.
      And then they will be charged for the assault against you as well.

    21. thiccachuwu on

      As a fellow Bülach resident I’m honestly freaked out right now. Please report them!

    22. wubbaalubbadubdubb on

      Same thing happened to me, minus the pepper spray today while leaving stolze open air. Can tou tell me via pm what have you gathered so far in terms of what should be done etc. Thanks!!

    23. Less_Willingness_640 on

      It was some culture sharing don’t worry. Just a taste of their local spices. What language were they talking ?

      Those retards will sooner or later be caught for such stupid behaviour.

    24. House_Part on

      Christ sake I live in bülach, like how stupid can they be. (There is a military base(Kaserne in town) Chances are you get a military person who is wearing civilian are kinda high and using pepper spraying someone just sucks.

    25. TortexMT on

      file two complaints:

      1) against the police officer who answered the phone, telling you they cant do anything. a crime happened, they 100% had someone at least in the perimeter. even if they arrived after 20min, thats still a chance to maybe find three guys with the provided description or identify potential camera footage for the next day. also taking your testimony asap increases the chances of you giving an accurate description. the police must be held accountable for not even trying doing their job because they fear some extra paper work.

      2) against these 3 guys.

      3) contact 20min, send them this post and point out that someone else also was attacked. they need content anyway and they often write these articles asking for details. point out the behavior of the police officer as well. this will increase pressure on both the police and also these three guys who are scared that this will become bigger and hopefully turn themselves in. maybe some parent is aware or a friend who these guys could be.

      you would be surprised how fucking stupid guys like them are, they will 100% brag about that night within their friends circle

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