Io e il mio compagno stavamo cercando un nuovo appartamento in una nuova città. Stavamo usando immowelt e immobilienscout. Sono nuovo su immowelt e quindi non ho familiarità con il sistema. Ho ricevuto questa email ieri al mio indirizzo privato (senza menzionarla da immowelt/immobilienscout) e ho riconosciuto alcuni segnali d’allarme (il proprietario non è in Germania, chiede i dettagli di un’altra persona, chiede di parlare in inglese). L’appartamento e l’affitto sono davvero un sogno per noi. Vogliamo solo sapere se magari qualcuno può anche segnalare le bandiere rosse. So che l’unico modo è rispondere all’e-mail e mettersi in contatto con il proprietario. Ma beh… TIA
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Read the wiki. Your points are valid, but maybe it’s not a scam. Just don’t transfer any money before you have the keys and can move in.
> The apartment and the rent are really a dream for us.
That is also a red flag. “Too good to be true” usually is just that. Mixed with all the other ones you’ve correctly identified, this is IMO clearly a scam.
So they contacted you replying to an ad you took out? or how did they find and pick you?
It doesn’t scream scam, but you should proceed with caution. if they come up with ideas like doing the contract over Airbnb or sites like that, it’s a scam. Insist on viewing the apartment and don’t pay anything before you get the keys.
Scam
95qm – 700€ – in a city – owner not in germany – overly friendly email. Quite a lit of red flags. Might be not tho. Dont transfer any money before youve seen the flat with your own eyes.
Where’s the flat located? 700€ including utilities and fully furnished for 95m² is not realistic, even in low-demand areas. Easiest solution: ask them for an in-person viewing, either with them or whoever is in charge of the flat as long as they are abroad. And they will NEED someone in charge, you can’t do all the legal tasks of renting a flat via zoom. If they are “so so sorry, our dog has asthma and we can only come to Germany after your move-in date” you have solid proof for scammers.
Scam 100%
**100% Scam**
You just need to put “wir sind forschungsingenieure” in Google to find out that a common scam.
[https://www.abendzeitung-muenchen.de/muenchen/neue-betrugsmasche-in-muenchen-trifft-vor-allem-verzweifelte-wohnungssuchende-art-934985](https://www.abendzeitung-muenchen.de/muenchen/neue-betrugsmasche-in-muenchen-trifft-vor-allem-verzweifelte-wohnungssuchende-art-934985)
[https://www.ruhrnachrichten.de/dortmund/augen-auf-beim-wohnungskauf-in-dortmund-polizei-warnt-vor-phishing-auf-immobilienportalen-w810619-2001009829/](https://www.ruhrnachrichten.de/dortmund/augen-auf-beim-wohnungskauf-in-dortmund-polizei-warnt-vor-phishing-auf-immobilienportalen-w810619-2001009829/)
[https://www.betrugsalarm.com/scam/view/700838](https://www.betrugsalarm.com/scam/view/700838)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/wohnen/comments/1623jxy/ist_das_ein_fake_wenn_ja_was_wollen_die_von_uns/](https://www.reddit.com/r/wohnen/comments/1623jxy/ist_das_ein_fake_wenn_ja_was_wollen_die_von_uns/)
Next thing they will probably offer to send you the apartment key from England via mail after you pay the deposit. Scam!
Yeah it’s 100% a scam, it’ll be nice and dandy until they demand a fee to send you the keys and then vanish into thin air never to be seen again.
Scam. Old trick. Don‘t invest any more energy. These people don‘t exist, the Apartment doesn’t exist
It’s a scam. Any kind of bullshit life story and not being present or represented by an official Makler is 100% a scam.
Also the weird formal deepl translation makes it obvious.
No one writes like that but scammers