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    1. SunEater888 on

      Russia is likely mapping underwater internet cables, a NATO official said.
      The country is also believed to be behind flight GPS interference.
      It’s signaling it could wreak havoc with the West’s electronic infrastructure, experts say.
      Dmitry Medvedev, the deputy chairman of Russia’s Security Council, issued a stark warning in June.

      The undersea cables that enable global communications had become a legitimate target for Russia, he said.

      Medvedev’s warning came after Nord Stream 2, a pipeline that transfers gas from Russia to Germany, was blown up. Russian officials believed the West had been involved in the attack. (Recent reports suggest Ukraine was actually behind the attack.)

      “If we proceed from the proven complicity of Western countries in blowing up the Nord Streams, then we have no constraints – even moral – left to prevent us from destroying the ocean floor cable communications of our enemies,” Medvedev posted on Telegram.

      Medvedev, a close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, has a long history of making incendiary claims.

      But some analysts say this wasn’t just another idle threat.

      A serious warning
      The vast network of undersea fiber-optic cables that transfer data between continents is indeed vulnerable to hostile powers, including Russia, the Center for Strategic and International Studies warned in a report this month.

      In May, NATO’s intelligence chief David Cattler warned that Russia may be planning to target the cables in retribution for the West’s support for Ukraine in its war against Russia.

      It’s a scenario that has NATO’s planners increasingly worried.

      If the cables are seriously damaged or disabled, swaths of the internet services we take for granted and that our economies rely on, including calls, financial transactions, and streaming, would be wiped out.

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      Carl-Oskar Bohlin, Sweden’s minister for civil defense, said damage to a telecommunications cable running under the Baltic Sea in 2023 was the result of “external force or tampering,” though he did not provide details.

      And in June, NATO stepped up aircraft patrols off the coast of Ireland amid concerns about Russian submarine activity, The Sunday Times reported.

      The threat to GPS
      Security analysts say that the internet is not the only network that Russia is probing for vulnerabilities.

      In recent months, Russia has been accused of interfering with GPS navigation systems, causing havoc on commercial airline routes. As a result, flights from Helsinki to Tartu, Estonia, ground to a halt for a month in April.

      Melanie Garson, an international security expert at University College London, said it was part of Russia’s “gray zone” campaign against the West, which involves covert actions that fall below the threshold of open warfare.

      “Russia has long been developing this capability and it is currently a cheap and effective way of malicious gray-zone interference,” said Garson.

      “As we increase our reliance on connectivity and space data in everything from agriculture to food delivery, disrupting national and economic security through interfering with subsea cables and GPS becomes increasingly effective,” she added.
      Russia puts the West ‘on notice’
      For decades, the world has depended on data carried by underwater cables that run for thousands of miles. In the early 20th century, the cables carried telegraph signals and later telephone calls.

      Robert Dover, a professor of international security at Hull University in the UK, said the cables have long been seen as potential military targets, and both the US and USSR surveilled them during the height of the Cold War.

      As the world has become more dependent on the internet, the cables have become increasingly vital. The cables now span around 745,000 miles and are responsible for transmitting 95% of international data.

      “The growth in electronic communications has made the undersea cables โ€” vital for international communications, the internet, finance, and so on โ€” a point of vulnerability for nations who use them extensively and for those who don’t publicly have an obvious fallback position,” Dover said.

      Similarly, GPS signals are increasingly vital to the airline industry. They are used to safely guide planes to their destinations and land them.

      Planes do have backup navigation systems in the event that GPS fails, but Baltic officials are warning that disrupted GPS signals can still put planes in danger.

      During its war with Ukraine, Russia has enhanced its already sophisticated electronic-warfare capabilities, enabling it to remotely scramble the GPS coordinates used to guide missiles and drones.

      That’s already affected commercial-aviation GPS in Eastern and Northern Europe. Some analysts believe that Russia is sending a signal to the West.

      “The targeting of civil-aviation GPS is a means by which to undermine the surety of Western publics in aviation, in particular, and shows the reliance on satellite platforms for ordinary citizens to navigate around,” Dover said.

      “It also puts governments on notice about the political risks of mass transit accidents that have a plausibly deniable cause.”
      A backup plan is urgently needed, says expert
      Foreign Policy reported in June that NATO has begun taking more action to safeguard undersea cables, setting up a system that would automatically warn of attempted interference.

      But Garson said it’s not enough, and more government fallback plans are needed in case the systems fail entirely.

      “Countries need to not only take measures to protect but also to make sure that the communications system is resilient, e.g., with robust alternatives,” Garson said.

      She said satellites transmitting GPS data often lack safeguards against attempted interference, while the task of protecting undersea cables often falls on the private companies that own and maintain them.

      “It’s key to visualize these strategic futures and have a clear resilience plan that accounts for potential systemic risk and to keep countries operational if key comms infrastructure is compromised,” Garson said.

      In its report this month, the CSIS called for the US to increase international cooperation to coordinate a response to a potential attack on cables.

      It said that the current legal and international framework for undersea-cable sabotage was “complex and fragmented, with different international legal regimes determining responsibility and punishment.”

      “When cables are sabotaged in international waters, there is no regime to hold the perpetrator accountable,” it said.

    2. Apprehensive-Pen2530 on

      I am already getting sick of these 4th world peasants.

    3. SAMSystem_NAFO on

      r/russiawarns

      They do love to bark a whole fucking lot.

    4. Well it isn’t a secret who cut them if we suddenly lose either of them.

      That’s basically a declaration of war in these times.

    5. dustofdeath on

      The only acceptable response would be a complete elimination of Russia’s entire current government and full demilitarization.

    6. JustAPasingNerd on

      Yes! Beware west! Smartiest of russian scientists are working on a large catapult that will be able to throw largest and strongest russian men into orbit to attack your satellites. For reentry these heroes will be taught to flap their hands really fast to decelerate.

    7. d1722825 on

      The Galileo GNSS has some functionality against spoofing, but AFAIK it is not available for public usage. Maybe open it up for everyone?

      *Spoofing, i,e. the transmission of counterfeit GNSS signals that may force a receiver to compute an erroneous position and lead the user to believe they are in a different location from where they effectively are. PRS also ensures that in such cases such authorised users as emergency forces, police and other relevant authorities retain the ability to serve the public using GNSS positioning information provided by PRS.*

      https://www.gsc-europa.eu/galileo/services/public-regulated-service

    8. BornLuckiest on

      They are going to destroy the internet?

      How much are they going to charge us for such a service? ๐Ÿค”

      Nice of them to help out too, seems they’ve turned a new leaf. ๐Ÿ˜œ

    9. rebootyourbrainstem on

      This is silly. Yes, they can do a lot of damage. NATO, too, can do a lot of damage.

      I believe the phrase is “we will respond at a time and in a manner of our choosing”.

    10. So the sitting president of the USA will declare war status and economy, seize SpaceX and the starlink constellation to enable a bare but functional InterContinental data exchange?

      I doubt Putin wants this kind of approach, especially since china is heavly reliant on global communications to do it’s business.

    11. thecraftybee1981 on

      Theyโ€™re failing badly with just Ukraine but think they can attack NATOโ€ฆ. Someone needs to fall out of a window and have some sense knocked in to them.

    12. Cute_Tomato_4659 on

      Germany is Save, we all have faxes. ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜Ž

    13. SpicyOmacka on

      If they did this, NATO should just set out to eradicate them with their nuclear capability, even if it risks borderline human extinction.

    14. As of 2024, four global systems are operational: the United States’s Global Positioning System (GPS), Russia’s Global Navigation Satellite System (GLONASS), China’sย BeiDouย Navigation Satellite System (BDS), and the European Union’s Galileo.
      How’s this for a backup plan? This isn’t journalism, even lower than PR actually

    15. Bear4188 on

      The Internet was literally designed to be resilient in the face of nuclear war. If the cables are cut traffic will reroute. Very scary.

    16. Initial-Reading-2775 on

      Russia did a lot of digitalization for big business and state governance. That means they will fall apart immediately themselves.

    17. ThereminLiesTheRub on

      A good backup plan to doing this would be for Russia to leave Ukraine

    18. Tipsticks on

      russia threatens a lot of things they won’t actually do.

      They may be able to cut undersea cables for data transfer, disrupting the connection between Europe and North America for a while but nowhere near all of them, because there are a lot.

      What they didn’t even claim to be able to do yet is the ability to take down satellites. Like the ones used for GPS. GPS is a constellaion of 31 active satellites at 20200km and Galileo is 24 active satellites at 24000km. The only satellites anyone can realistically shoot down with any kindof reliability are things like starlink because they’re at about 500km and there’s so many you’re bound to hit one at some point.

    19. pokeybit on

      So Putin promises Space Karen the monopoly for Starlink at what price?

    20. Oh for fuck sakes, cut the damn lines and break our internet please. Only than the West will wake up and actually change!

    21. ricefarmerfromindia on

      Our security services must know where Putin’s children live.

      Grab them and that migit cossak should finally shut the fuck up.

    22. iTmkoeln on

      The country that canโ€™t even hit military targets in a 3 day campaign that lasted 1100 days and counting (not counting the 8 years of illegal occupation in Donbas and Crimea) warns it can take out the Internetโ€ฆ

      Do they know that if they block YT, Insta and the like in Russia the Internet still exist? Same with VPNs.

      They do right? ๐Ÿคญ

    23. koensch57 on

      Nato is signalling the world that it can take out any ship deemed to be a danger to its infrastructure.

      NATO declares every pipeline or communicationscable a closed for shipping zone. Every ship in that zone will be destroyed.

    24. patrinoo on

      Yea starlink would still be there. The military would just use that I guess after they now warned about it.

    25. Ellixhirion on

      Russia could do a lot of things yesโ€ฆ maybe Russia could do some stuff in Kursk firstโ€ฆ

    26. paralaxsd on

      Western long range weaponry is currently not available for attacks throughout all of Russia. I’m sure even Medvedev would prefer it to stay like that.

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