And what happens when 9% VAT is inevitably too high
Ask me arse
marquess_rostrevor on
I too need lower taxes to survive, thanks!
RebelGrin on
How about they stop asking 9 euro for a pint which cost 50 cent to make. Or selling a fucking burger for 15 euro.
RemnantOfSpotOn on
Lol why is your restaurant or pretentious coffee shop more deserving of this benefit then other family owned businesses like hardware shops for example struggling and battling with amazon
sure_look_this_is_it on
It sounds like the industry is badly managed if they can’t pay the bare minimum of tax but can afford a nationwide marketing campaign to pay less tax.
External-Chemical-71 on
I would have left tbh. Moaning cunts. They would take the VAT cut into the back pocket and raise their prices the next day.
devhaugh on
It’s not the fact that you probably wouldn’t get change out of €10 for a coffee and a pastry that’s causing decline in your industry.
You’re lucky to be on 13.5% and not 23%!
AhhhhBiscuits on
Look I get it…
But, some never reduced the prices when it was put down to 9%. We had menus from a few places saved on our phones and compared. But when it went back up, they put the prices up.
Yes overheads are more, insurance has gone up and the cost of supplies has gone up substantially. The cost of Sugar and flour has doubled. Not sure of coffee….( I have one flat white a day and I make it in work)
I’ve heard places ay people aren’t going out as much, but I wouldn’t fully agree with that. Might depend on where I am going I suppose. I do like going out for dinner, but it is expensive.
But i will be partaking in some pizza from Coke Lane in next few days because I need a few hours out with the husband with some nice pizza and the meatballs are back on menu boys!
BobbyKonker on
Didn’t they try a reduced VAT rate before and the hospitality industry just continued to gouge customers so it was revoked.
The cheek.
Expert-Fig-5590 on
The restaurants don’t pay VAT the customers do. The restaurants just collect it for the Government. When the Government cut the VAT rate the restaurants didn’t pass on the savings to their customers and so took money it should have been collecting for the government and put it in their own pockets. Fuck em.
Massive-Foot-5962 on
At least its not as obnoxious as the chippers campaigning for less card payments, so they can avoid tax
WellWellWell2021 on
The future of my business in your establishment depends on you figuring out that 3.50 for a cup of tea and €4 for a bun is too much.
Good luck on your journey.
Odd_Barnacle_3908 on
If 4% tax cut is holding your business together, it’s time to face reality.
Liamario on
If the VAT goes down they pocket the benefit, if it goes back up the customer pays the price. Your business isn’t viable. Nothing lasts forever. Culture changes and what society did once does not mean it will do it forever. Many restaurants are doing well and many are no longer viable. You’re entitled to make a living, you’re not entitled to success.
sabhaistecabaiste on
Reduce my paye, then I’ll have more money for overpriced coffee and muffins
Grand-Cup-A-Tea on
If VAT was reduced, would retailers pass that VAT reduction on to consumers? Last time it happened, many didnt.
RogerFederer4 on
Boy who cried wolf story here
sergeantorourke on
Lowering the tax doesn’t necessarily mean lowering prices it gives the owners the option to hold them longer. Most coffee shops and cafes have a tough time turning a profit. I’d rather give a hard working business owner a shot at success than give more money to a government that can’t figure out how to use the resources it’s gifted to serve its citizens.
eo37 on
Maybe if the hospitality sector didn’t gouge the life out of the public when you got a VAT reduction before…you might have got a minuscule piece of sympathy
Specialist-Flow3015 on
Any business who puts up signs like these should also have to say how much they’re paying staff.
So tired of businesses shouting about how hard it is to get by while not giving their employees enough for a decent standard of living.
sureyouknowurself on
No chance, too many worlds most expensive buildings to be built, bike sheds too.
Disastrous-Pair-715 on
And then proceeded to charge you close to a fiver for a coffee!!!
McGreed on
Please tell me where this was, so I can avoid it in the future and advise others to avoid it.
GodSlayer691 on
Allow the 9% if they reduce there costs to pre Covid levels0 gouging bastards!!!!!!
Tactical_Laser_Bream on
_That’ll be €5 for a frozen pastry please. Jam? That’s another €1. The burnt coffee? €5 please. Would you like to tip?_
Fuck off lads.
EdwardElric69 on
Let it fucking burn. All of it.
InfectedAztec on
When times are tough we’re all in this together. But when Cold Play or Taylor Swift is in Croker is €800 for a hotel room because fuck the consumer, what are they gonna do about it?
The hospitality industry had the support of the Irish people during Covid and turned around and gouged us for every penny they could in the years after.
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And what happens when 9% VAT is inevitably too high
Ask me arse
I too need lower taxes to survive, thanks!
How about they stop asking 9 euro for a pint which cost 50 cent to make. Or selling a fucking burger for 15 euro.
Lol why is your restaurant or pretentious coffee shop more deserving of this benefit then other family owned businesses like hardware shops for example struggling and battling with amazon
It sounds like the industry is badly managed if they can’t pay the bare minimum of tax but can afford a nationwide marketing campaign to pay less tax.
I would have left tbh. Moaning cunts. They would take the VAT cut into the back pocket and raise their prices the next day.
It’s not the fact that you probably wouldn’t get change out of €10 for a coffee and a pastry that’s causing decline in your industry.
You’re lucky to be on 13.5% and not 23%!
Look I get it…
But, some never reduced the prices when it was put down to 9%. We had menus from a few places saved on our phones and compared. But when it went back up, they put the prices up.
Yes overheads are more, insurance has gone up and the cost of supplies has gone up substantially. The cost of Sugar and flour has doubled. Not sure of coffee….( I have one flat white a day and I make it in work)
I’ve heard places ay people aren’t going out as much, but I wouldn’t fully agree with that. Might depend on where I am going I suppose. I do like going out for dinner, but it is expensive.
But i will be partaking in some pizza from Coke Lane in next few days because I need a few hours out with the husband with some nice pizza and the meatballs are back on menu boys!
Didn’t they try a reduced VAT rate before and the hospitality industry just continued to gouge customers so it was revoked.
The cheek.
The restaurants don’t pay VAT the customers do. The restaurants just collect it for the Government. When the Government cut the VAT rate the restaurants didn’t pass on the savings to their customers and so took money it should have been collecting for the government and put it in their own pockets. Fuck em.
At least its not as obnoxious as the chippers campaigning for less card payments, so they can avoid tax
The future of my business in your establishment depends on you figuring out that 3.50 for a cup of tea and €4 for a bun is too much.
Good luck on your journey.
If 4% tax cut is holding your business together, it’s time to face reality.
If the VAT goes down they pocket the benefit, if it goes back up the customer pays the price. Your business isn’t viable. Nothing lasts forever. Culture changes and what society did once does not mean it will do it forever. Many restaurants are doing well and many are no longer viable. You’re entitled to make a living, you’re not entitled to success.
Reduce my paye, then I’ll have more money for overpriced coffee and muffins
If VAT was reduced, would retailers pass that VAT reduction on to consumers? Last time it happened, many didnt.
Boy who cried wolf story here
Lowering the tax doesn’t necessarily mean lowering prices it gives the owners the option to hold them longer. Most coffee shops and cafes have a tough time turning a profit. I’d rather give a hard working business owner a shot at success than give more money to a government that can’t figure out how to use the resources it’s gifted to serve its citizens.
Maybe if the hospitality sector didn’t gouge the life out of the public when you got a VAT reduction before…you might have got a minuscule piece of sympathy
Any business who puts up signs like these should also have to say how much they’re paying staff.
So tired of businesses shouting about how hard it is to get by while not giving their employees enough for a decent standard of living.
No chance, too many worlds most expensive buildings to be built, bike sheds too.
And then proceeded to charge you close to a fiver for a coffee!!!
Please tell me where this was, so I can avoid it in the future and advise others to avoid it.
Allow the 9% if they reduce there costs to pre Covid levels0 gouging bastards!!!!!!
_That’ll be €5 for a frozen pastry please. Jam? That’s another €1. The burnt coffee? €5 please. Would you like to tip?_
Fuck off lads.
Let it fucking burn. All of it.
When times are tough we’re all in this together. But when Cold Play or Taylor Swift is in Croker is €800 for a hotel room because fuck the consumer, what are they gonna do about it?
The hospitality industry had the support of the Irish people during Covid and turned around and gouged us for every penny they could in the years after.
https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2024/0918/1470558-vat-rise-could-lead-to-21-000-food-services-job-losses/
Article on RTE about it now, interesting but not sure I fully believe it’s as bad as that.