Let’s be real democracy is dead in Russia after Yeltsin got cocky in 96. Every time someone in Russia promises a better life they somehow get screwed, they threw the Tzar, Soviets, then came famine and Stalin then came to Yeltsin, I can’t blame the doomer wojak view of Russia. Your future is fucked either way.
Eminence_grizzly on
Is this one of those polls where 80% of Russians support the withdrawal if the tsar commands it, and 80% support fighting to the last soldier if that’s what the tsar wishes?
m71nu on
How do you poll this?
SteamTrout on
So an anti-war group did a poll with anti-war people and only 49% wanted to end the war?
nbelyh on
Rrright. “The online survey showed that 99% of the respondents use internet” (c)
AlanWerehog on
The article is propaganda and the poll don’t even question Russians in Russia. What a joke.
kamikazekaktus on
All of it? including Crimea?
ThrowRA01042024 on
49% of russians live outside of russia*
lawrotzr on
If you’ve ever seen the images of how Ukrainian POWs return from multiyear imprisonment in Mother Russia, then 49% is outright barbaric. It’s a regime of animals and savages.
Any-Original-6113 on
False questions are regularly conducted in Russia, according to the results of which those who answered against the authorities are subjected to financial and administrative discrimination.
This is not a public form of intimidation.
The marker that Putin and his subordinates are indifferent to the majority of the population was the Prigozhin rebellion.
In fact, Prigozhin could easily have walked 1,300 km and arrested Putin, and no one would have stopped him.
Erander on
Even if its true another 51% is in favor of staying and that is very bad
OtherManner7569 on
It’s a totally pointless war, genuinely what is putin hoping to achieve? Does he genuinely want the Soviet Union or Russian empire resurrected? And is he actually so naive to think he can actually do that? No one in Ukraine is going to accept being Russian and especially after Russias barbaric war. His whole idea that Ukraine being part of nato is a threat to Russia is utterly laughable, no nato country wants a war they don’t have to fight out of necessity. Maybe if Russia stopped treating its neighbours as rebellious colonies then they wouldn’t have to join nato.
NeaCostelDrojdier on
Who tf cares about russians’ opinion?
crc_73 on
LOL at the cube, how much meat can they pack into that one…?
inokentii on
I wonder where are now all these escalation managers who said that war should be moved on russian soil
GongTzu on
It doesn’t sound like an official Russian poll. Putins poll would still be 99% for war.
Xepeyon on
It’s pretty notable that Russians inside of Russia are evidentially becoming less apprehensive about voicing discontent.
>Nearly 50% of Russian people support withdrawing troops from Ukraine and negotiating for peace, **even without achieving the Kremlin’s military objectives**, according to a joint survey conducted by independent pollsters ExtremeScan and Chronicles.
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>According to polls conducted by ExtremeScan and Chronicles in September 2024, 49% of Russians [support](https://www.currenttime.tv/a/rossiya-ukraina-opros-voyna/33128290.html) the immediate withdrawal of troops from Ukraine and peace talks with Kyiv, an increase of nearly 10% from the three previous polls held since February 2023.
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Considering the old Soviet mindset, I’m actually surprised that many people are open about wanting the war to end, and not caring how, although I suppose this isn’t technically a form of criticizing or condemning the war, so perhaps people feel safer answering with the questions framed this way.
Current-Taste7942 on
The poll is from Smolensk. I guess the ratio would lean more towards withdrawing in cities like Moscow or Saint Petersburg, or the ones closer to the border. I wonder what would the poll look like in far Russia with non-Slavic ethnic majorities.
IndistinctChatters on
I somehow doubt that what russians mean with “withdrawal of the troops from Ukraine”” is the same of what Ukraine means.
IWillDevourYourToes on
People forget that opinion polls are completely unreliable in totalitarian countries like Russia.
People will just lie or refuse to participate to save their asses
dege283 on
100% of 49% Russians is 0% really 100% sure that 100% of the 49% is a special operation. 110% makes 120% sense
Ok-Radish-8394 on
Is mother Russia, polls are valueless western propaganda /s .
pafagaukurinn on
Polls show that Russians support the war. – Reddit: See, see, told ya, that’s how they are!
Polls show that Russians don’t support the war. – Reddit: Ah, polls in Russia are unreliable, and they all lie anyway.
Eelroots on
Missiles over Russian territories are mind changing; when reality hits.
BoopsTheSnoot_ on
Oh yeah? And what are they doing about it? Nothing. Which means they’re not supporting shit.
RoseyOneOne on
Reportedly the number was 51% but then 2% were killed on the front lines.
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Let’s be real democracy is dead in Russia after Yeltsin got cocky in 96. Every time someone in Russia promises a better life they somehow get screwed, they threw the Tzar, Soviets, then came famine and Stalin then came to Yeltsin, I can’t blame the doomer wojak view of Russia. Your future is fucked either way.
Is this one of those polls where 80% of Russians support the withdrawal if the tsar commands it, and 80% support fighting to the last soldier if that’s what the tsar wishes?
How do you poll this?
So an anti-war group did a poll with anti-war people and only 49% wanted to end the war?
Rrright. “The online survey showed that 99% of the respondents use internet” (c)
The article is propaganda and the poll don’t even question Russians in Russia. What a joke.
All of it? including Crimea?
49% of russians live outside of russia*
If you’ve ever seen the images of how Ukrainian POWs return from multiyear imprisonment in Mother Russia, then 49% is outright barbaric. It’s a regime of animals and savages.
False questions are regularly conducted in Russia, according to the results of which those who answered against the authorities are subjected to financial and administrative discrimination.
This is not a public form of intimidation.
The marker that Putin and his subordinates are indifferent to the majority of the population was the Prigozhin rebellion.
In fact, Prigozhin could easily have walked 1,300 km and arrested Putin, and no one would have stopped him.
Even if its true another 51% is in favor of staying and that is very bad
It’s a totally pointless war, genuinely what is putin hoping to achieve? Does he genuinely want the Soviet Union or Russian empire resurrected? And is he actually so naive to think he can actually do that? No one in Ukraine is going to accept being Russian and especially after Russias barbaric war. His whole idea that Ukraine being part of nato is a threat to Russia is utterly laughable, no nato country wants a war they don’t have to fight out of necessity. Maybe if Russia stopped treating its neighbours as rebellious colonies then they wouldn’t have to join nato.
Who tf cares about russians’ opinion?
LOL at the cube, how much meat can they pack into that one…?
I wonder where are now all these escalation managers who said that war should be moved on russian soil
It doesn’t sound like an official Russian poll. Putins poll would still be 99% for war.
It’s pretty notable that Russians inside of Russia are evidentially becoming less apprehensive about voicing discontent.
>Nearly 50% of Russian people support withdrawing troops from Ukraine and negotiating for peace, **even without achieving the Kremlin’s military objectives**, according to a joint survey conducted by independent pollsters ExtremeScan and Chronicles.
–
>According to polls conducted by ExtremeScan and Chronicles in September 2024, 49% of Russians [support](https://www.currenttime.tv/a/rossiya-ukraina-opros-voyna/33128290.html) the immediate withdrawal of troops from Ukraine and peace talks with Kyiv, an increase of nearly 10% from the three previous polls held since February 2023.
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>”It’s very difficult in a dictatorship, during a war, to get what people are really thinking because they tend to identify themselves with the majority, they tend to lie because they are afraid,” Alexei Minyaylo, founder of Chronicles, [told](https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/10/11/startup-pollsters-challenge-accepted-wisdom-on-russians-war-support-a78972/pdf) the Moscow Times in October 2022.
Considering the old Soviet mindset, I’m actually surprised that many people are open about wanting the war to end, and not caring how, although I suppose this isn’t technically a form of criticizing or condemning the war, so perhaps people feel safer answering with the questions framed this way.
The poll is from Smolensk. I guess the ratio would lean more towards withdrawing in cities like Moscow or Saint Petersburg, or the ones closer to the border. I wonder what would the poll look like in far Russia with non-Slavic ethnic majorities.
I somehow doubt that what russians mean with “withdrawal of the troops from Ukraine”” is the same of what Ukraine means.
People forget that opinion polls are completely unreliable in totalitarian countries like Russia.
People will just lie or refuse to participate to save their asses
100% of 49% Russians is 0% really 100% sure that 100% of the 49% is a special operation. 110% makes 120% sense
Is mother Russia, polls are valueless western propaganda /s .
Polls show that Russians support the war. – Reddit: See, see, told ya, that’s how they are!
Polls show that Russians don’t support the war. – Reddit: Ah, polls in Russia are unreliable, and they all lie anyway.
Missiles over Russian territories are mind changing; when reality hits.
Oh yeah? And what are they doing about it? Nothing. Which means they’re not supporting shit.
Reportedly the number was 51% but then 2% were killed on the front lines.