Shock in Romania dopo che un populista poco conosciuto e di estrema destra si è assicurato il vantaggio nelle elezioni presidenziali
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/11/25/shock-in-romania-after-little-known-far-right-populist-secures-lead-in-presidential-electi
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Why a shock? Russia got Trump reelected despite everything he did do before. All over the world people are voting for politicians that will do nothing for them. Humans love leopards, apparently.
Dear Romanian redditors! Disclaimer, I’m not Romanian but I care about what happens in the EU so there’s that. I have a few Romanian friends that tell me this guy is not pro Russia, or anti NATO, like it was years ago or taken out of context. They say the reason he wasn’t in debates is because the media are communist? Look I won’t pretend to know how things are in Romania but this sounds exactly like what the Kremlin wants people to say. How do you see the whole situation? To me it feels like a massive Russian misinformation campaign.
Anyone pro-Russian in this day and age, with everything we know and see with our own eyes, should immediately be considered exposed as the Putin plant that they are.
Why is it shocking that people reject mainstream politicians who fail to do their job? This is the only way to signal that there needs to be a change or else.
it’s a mistake, we will make it right in 2 weeks, don;t worry Europe.
Several years of the EU treating Romania as a second-tier country have fueled his rhetoric, making it easy for him to achieve these results. Just consider how the country has been kept out of the Schengen area without a legitimate reason, or how it’s almost always referred to as “one of the poorest countries in Europe.” It’s not hard to see how such narratives can be turned against the EU. I don’t agree with his ideas at all—I’m just trying to understand the logic behind these outcomes. Like most of the country, I’m shocked. If you ask his supporters whether they realize how much damage he could do, they’ll simply respond, “Let’s give him four years; how bad can it get?”
I hope the opinion bubble that is r/europe finally wakes up. Our opinions are not always what the real world thinks. Even if you see a post with 50K upvotes.
Being little-known and getting the majority of votes are mutually exclusive. He must have been known by a lot of voters.
*Former East Bloc countries trying to not be reactionary challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)*
I like that Tate brothers are big fans of this russian asset. They don’t even hide that they are russian pupets…
His chances of winning are quite good, unfortunately. His messaging was prepared for a long time, he is not stupid and his rhetoric is liked by a lot of people.
I fear for next week’s parliamentary elections and the second round of prezidential elections after that.
Sorry for the damage our idiot politician will do in the EU.
Romania is the richest balkan country and is rapidly developing. The last thing Romania needs to it give up everything it has, and move to the failure that is Russia
Let this be a lesson for democracies to ignore their population at their own peril.
“Populist”…bro is nutcase, makes rfk jr really look like a junior
Romania needs the EU their citizens better wake up voting a Putin puppet is another Orban in the making. Hungary are the piranhas of Europe.
I guess he wasn’t that little known in the end.
He is “little-known”, but supposed to be the prime minister candidate of a major political party even in 2020! How?
Here is hoping Romania does better now.
I’ve only seen him talking a bit yesterday and he mentioned God, and God’s mission several times. It was pretty scary and felt like he was a couple sentences away from wanting to publicly burn women for being witches
Romania has knuckledraggers too, obviously.
So is he pro Putin like media smeared Meloni who has been a strong supporter of Ukraine or actually pro Putin like Orban? Can’t really trust media in these cases nowadays.
Why haven’t you banned this mfer from running yet? You may as well invite Russian army into your country.
no shock if the other options were a gypsy and a woman
Dreaming of the good old USSR-days!
Hey Romania, could you not? Also it’s incredibly concerning that Russian meddling has so much influence on western elections.
Democracy is so overrated
Many Georgescu voters are having second thoughts now. They voted for the one they saw on TikTok, an independent who spoke about love for the country, the corrupt political system and the conditions under which the diaspora can return home. An ex UN diplomat who has the experience to represent the country. Also, voting for him also meant a protest against the establishment.
Now they see that they voted for a religious fanatic who wants to take Romania out of the EU and NATO and is very close to Russia. A conspiracy theorist with increasingly bizarre theories.
In Romania, all social media are bombarded with the question of who’s this guy and romaian trying to protest at this moment regarding this situation. Myself I never heard about this person and suddenly appeared in the election, lol. What a comedy!
It’s sad how 2 years of record inflation soured people so badly that they roll the dice on Pro Putin far right populists.
Vote to buy, who wants some votes to buy, buy one get one free!
Just a PSA: I talked to a 20 year old guy in France today about this.
He wasn’t at all surprised. Gets the same sort of alt right content on the daily in his social media feeds.
In the same breath, he told me he was glad Trump got re-elected since it made his crypto stock jump 30% in a day. And Biden shouldn’t have escalated things in Ukraine.
THIS WILL HAPPEN ALL OVER EUROPE.
ppl who think russia is behind ALL the far right ascension all over the western world are part of the issue, which is gulping everything that “our” propaganda is throwing at us 😉
i am just another nobody AND SURE, maybe russia is behind all the shocks we had all over europe this past year and in usa lets say, but i have my doubts about them being capable of something on this scale…
BUT we seem to so easily forget (or maybe being lulled into forgetting) the **Cambridge Analytica** scandal from 2016.
All of us are profiled like crazy from our daily use of the internet, companies have gotten to know us better than we know ourselves, its been already exposed that they sold this data for political targeting.. what if they’re doing the same thing right now everywhere?
it is beyond a doubt that what happened in Romania this past weekend is “unnatural”.. the said individual was at 3% or so 2 weeks before the elections, jumped to 10% 1 week before and got 23% on the day of the polls.
Also, the said individual seems to exist in ppl’s choices of vote only in the western EU and romania (where the electoral basins are the biggest tbh), he has between 0 – 5% (very rare reaching 10%) of the voting choices of the ppl that voted in the east (countries like moldova, russia, china, uae, ukraine, poland, latvia, estonia, georgia, etc). this inconsistence seems fishy af to me, also it makes it look like most part of the efforts and resources were targeted towards the places where the electoral basins were big enough to matter…
we all live in our own bubble.. the ppl behind this operation have aggressively promoted this individual inside specific bubbles, targeting exactly what they were after and serving them exactly what they want to hear… i have listened a bit to his speech .. the guy has and says something for everybody .. same BS as trump, only dressed with romanian specifics… same thing the far right does everywhere tbh…
what happened in romania these past elections is not isolated and will not stop from happening in more “western” societies … we are so willingly and freely throwing away our rights and privacy and ofc others will profit, be it russia or smth worse…
Romanian here. People who voted for this guy don’t know 10% about him but they voted because the current politicat landscape in Romania is incredibly corrupt and has done nothing for the people in last years. So we can blame Putin and Russians but when it comes to this guy the blame falls on current political parties in Romania.
I want to know the demographic of the votes. It seems he has been campaigning mostly through social media.
Probably because liberal people take democracy for granted and think everyone else does. And they don’t go to vote.
They say rust never sleeps…it should be retitled….Russia never sleeps.
Sabotage on Baltic undersea cables. Russian navy moved away in Irish waters from vital undersea pipelines and cables between the UK and Ireland.
I’m sure, given the opportunity, Russia could expose the naivety and openness of Europe if direct conflict moves closer.
Espionage left right and centre across the political spectrum of many Eastern European countries. Yet another Putin critic dies of ‘natural causes’ in Belgrade.
Whether it’s an attempt to restore the USSR or just to have enough patsies or like-minded yes men in power in the old Eastern Bloc, Putin is doing his homework.
Now, we might have a scenario where both Romania and Moldova could become hostile. Sandu clings to power in Moldova, and Ciolacu of Romania is under a real threat of losing to Georgescu.
Finland and Poland are ever wary of Russian threats. Incendiary devices and arson in many countries points to Russia. Their hybrid war is well under way.
Germany France and Britain have yet to take their blinkers off, it seems.