Things are bleak on all fronts, but Kursk has seemed to be the most fruitful one for casualty ratios of most types
FakeGamer2 on
This section if the article is super important.
>Not one soldier whom I speak with understands why we are here (in Kursk Oblast),” Oleksii said, adding that many guys from his unit refused to be deployed in the Kursk operation and went home.
>Other soldiers, including another serviceman from the elite 80th brigade, Illia, suggested that the Kursk incursion would likely be destined for a short life and that it was probably a Ukrainian attempt to distract the public from the worsening situation in Donbas.
>“I’m 100% sure they’ll force us out of Kursk Oblast, it’s just a matter of time,” Illia told the Kyiv Independent. “It’s a pity that people are dying for PR.”
>Western and Ukrainian military experts are divided on the operation’s strategic value, but they stressed that Russian troops would have advanced on the eastern front regardless of the Kursk operation.
>Emil Kastehelmi, an analyst at the Black Bird Group analyzing the war closely through open source, said that there appear to be “more negatives” in the operation, with Ukraine prioritizing the operation “pretty high” despite the deteriorating Donbas situation.
So the soldiers on the ground aren’t hearing about the real reason they are there, leading to low morale. Foreign war analyst experts are in agreement with the critics that Kursk operation has any value.
If Ukrainian leadership is valuing the operation so highly, then why are they letting the morale of the troops holding it go to shit? Little to no rotations, orders to not retreat despite being overwhelmed, and worst of all not giving them a reason to be in foreign land when they could be pushing Russians out of Ukrainian land. All of this was detailed in another article, more POV quotes from troops on that front.
I’m not trying to be a doomer but we really need some good analysis on why the Kursk operation is worth it for those Ukrainian troops on the ground.
rd6021 on
Doolittle’s Raid was a strategic failure as well but completely shifted how Japan played WW2.
Strontiumdogs1 on
Unfortunately, the main problem Ukraine has is that, russia simply doesn’t give a fuck how many men it throws into the grinder.
It’s been the same in every war they have fought, win or not, the ruler just do it.
It eventually boils down to numbers for Ukraine. How many men can they afford before the virtually don’t exist anymore.
I hope they overcome, but I fear in the end NATO membership without the contested parts being included in section 5 agreement, may be the only way.
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Things are bleak on all fronts, but Kursk has seemed to be the most fruitful one for casualty ratios of most types
This section if the article is super important.
>Not one soldier whom I speak with understands why we are here (in Kursk Oblast),” Oleksii said, adding that many guys from his unit refused to be deployed in the Kursk operation and went home.
>Other soldiers, including another serviceman from the elite 80th brigade, Illia, suggested that the Kursk incursion would likely be destined for a short life and that it was probably a Ukrainian attempt to distract the public from the worsening situation in Donbas.
>“I’m 100% sure they’ll force us out of Kursk Oblast, it’s just a matter of time,” Illia told the Kyiv Independent. “It’s a pity that people are dying for PR.”
>Western and Ukrainian military experts are divided on the operation’s strategic value, but they stressed that Russian troops would have advanced on the eastern front regardless of the Kursk operation.
>Emil Kastehelmi, an analyst at the Black Bird Group analyzing the war closely through open source, said that there appear to be “more negatives” in the operation, with Ukraine prioritizing the operation “pretty high” despite the deteriorating Donbas situation.
So the soldiers on the ground aren’t hearing about the real reason they are there, leading to low morale. Foreign war analyst experts are in agreement with the critics that Kursk operation has any value.
If Ukrainian leadership is valuing the operation so highly, then why are they letting the morale of the troops holding it go to shit? Little to no rotations, orders to not retreat despite being overwhelmed, and worst of all not giving them a reason to be in foreign land when they could be pushing Russians out of Ukrainian land. All of this was detailed in another article, more POV quotes from troops on that front.
I’m not trying to be a doomer but we really need some good analysis on why the Kursk operation is worth it for those Ukrainian troops on the ground.
Doolittle’s Raid was a strategic failure as well but completely shifted how Japan played WW2.
Unfortunately, the main problem Ukraine has is that, russia simply doesn’t give a fuck how many men it throws into the grinder.
It’s been the same in every war they have fought, win or not, the ruler just do it.
It eventually boils down to numbers for Ukraine. How many men can they afford before the virtually don’t exist anymore.
I hope they overcome, but I fear in the end NATO membership without the contested parts being included in section 5 agreement, may be the only way.