Un promemoria del fatto che questo è il paese che ha votato per eliminare quasi ogni singolo candidato verde.
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Un promemoria del fatto che questo è il paese che ha votato per eliminare quasi ogni singolo candidato verde.
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di jd2300
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They could have been a party handing out cookies and free house, and the Irish electorate would still punish them ‘cos that’s what happens the junior coalition partners.
Seems like the Greens did a pretty poor job of tackling emissions when you look at this graph.
Maybe they should have focused more on good governance than increasing ineffectual taxes during a CoL crisis.
Well, if this is the result of 4 years of GP in government, they did rightfully so. Greens-in-name-only.
The likes of this is why . Put a graph together to total generated against other countries . Ireland is tiny on the grand scale but we have done and continue to do our bit . Surely the millions every year in emissions taxes help ……..
The proper public transport infrastructure of other countries has to play its part in the per capita readings
The greens couldn’t have done a worse job snob tackling this issue. Increasing carbon taxes does nothing but damage the poorest of society if you don’t have any alternatives. If we want to tackle this we need functioning public transport. An underground in Dublin would probably Ben enough alone to bring us way down that list
Good, why should someone that tries to make me out to be a climate villain for just living my life represent me in government? Go sort out polluting companies, improving public transport and addressing the key issues as to why we’re so dependent on dirty energy as a nation.
Why do people assume that the green party have sole ownership and responsibility of the green agenda? Even if you look at the Dublin commuter coalition review of all the party manifestos, they’ve shown that other parties are actually trying to do better than the greens.
You cannot call yoursrlf a green party and expect people to blindly vote for you because of climate change.
I am a Green Party voter and this election I was thoroughly disappointed with their candidate.
Greens won’t get that emission figure down, a good government will, doesn’t matter what party.
The greens were doomed from the start. They never had any real clout and got the blame for eveything.
I remember seeing data on this also for 2023 a couple of months ago and it was desktop research based on GDP change as a proxy rather than actual measurement data, with the obvious problems that has for accuracy in relation to Ireland. Is this the same study?
The Green Party are also the party that vehemently opposed the measures which would have reduced this figure, which is gas exploration and CCGT power plants to replace solid fuels decades ago and nuclear to reduce dependence on fossil fuels in general.
They lobbied for and received a country powered by imported fossil fuels, often purchased from States where those funds fuelled nightmarish human rights abuses.
They massively increased particulate matter in residential areas by subsidising diesel cars for 12 years.
The Green Party have exactly one place to look for the cause of their downfall, and it’s inwards. A party with no vision who consistently picked the worst option for the State. A party who, on an island abundant with natural renewable resources, focused on endless behaviour shaping via taxation instead of focusing on building out energy infrastructure. A party who, when in power, managed to deliver more of their promises than any other party in the history of the State, but still left their electorate worse off.
Irish have never cared about our environment. we consider it ours to exploit. not preserve and cherish. whether its rivers, hedges, bogs, lakes, fish, birds whatever, it’s ours and we’ll fuck it if we want to. so it’s hardly suprising we fucked the greens out, the surprise is that we voted them in in the first place.
Continental Europe benefits from their nuclear power plants that essentially emit 0 greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. They can sell excess power from those plants to each other, Ireland cannot.
Also solar isn’t as good up here as in southern/central Europe.
Also this is just Europe, compared is to the US,China,India and we’re a drop in the ocean.
We still should be trying to reduce it, but we’re an island nation with supply chain issues, our power grid is harder to refine than most other EU countries.
I mean, look… Climate crisis exists, is a very real threat, and we should be doing more.
HOWEVER.
The way to fix this is not to tax and penalise the average citizen to the breadline without providing alternatives. I have to drive to work, even though it’s only 6km away. Why? Because quite often, when I’ve tried to get the bus, it either doesn’t arrive or is late, making me late. If I miss that one, the next one doesn’t arrive for about an hour. Multiply that by hundreds of thousands of people around the country.
Dublin airport is another prime example. No easy transport to/from, so you end up driving. Yes, you pay a little bit more for parking, but the convenience (and the guarantee you’ll get there! Looking at you, Dublin Coach) just makes the green alternatives impossible.
If they decided to spend a large part if the Apple money on giving every house solar panels, I’d be completely here for it! But they won’t, and even if they did, it’s a drop in the bucket – households are not the real issue either.
That’s the problem with green policy in this country. They aren’t building or investing in alternatives. Additionally, they won’t penalise big tech or data centres (where the majority of there are coming from), because we are so ridiculously reliant on the for our falsely inflated GDP.
Who would have though, taxing poor people didn’t fix the problem or get them reelected.
Clever bunch those guys.
We’re mostly that high because we are a low population country, with an above average industrial base (those data centres and pharma factories), very rural so high individual car usage.
We’re mostly that high because we are a low population country, with an above average industrial base (those data centres and pharma factories), very rural so high individual car usage.
These stats are worthless. They don’t take any ‘imported’ emissions into account.
For example our agricultural emissions are massive relative to our population but we export the majority of the output produced to other countries. So is it fair to count them as Irish emissions?
Same way how we pontificate about China being a big polluter, but we are happy to ship over all our dirty manufacturing requirements.
Consumption/usage per person is the only metric that should be used.
Greens have thoroughly and categorically rejected nuclear power. Bye now.
We missed one
The Greens did exactly what the mega corps would have done and pushed for individual responsibility rather than changing of the system itself.
“Recycle and don’t throw away plastic” great but how about get plastic out of the system all together, “everyone should have a car sharing pool and switch to electric? “ how about doing massive upgrade to the train lines and set up a bus/train connection/hub systems.
Also Cold countries produce more CO2… yes Ireland needs to become more efficient and change to alternative sources of energy such as the “giant ocean of potential energy and off-shore winds yet tapped into” but general usage per person is always expected to be higher especially when the quantity of population isn’t high enough for massive nuclear projects.
Capitalism can’t solve the climate crisis.
The Greens could form a majority government and they would still fail.
I genuinely wonder if we just had more renewables in the grid how much it’d reduce our emissions. If a significant amount is from data centres and industrial energy use, then it could make a huge difference
Well we’re busy tying ourselves in extremely expensive knots and not actually doing very much about any of the things that might actually have a positive impact like heavily investing in public transport and off shore wind, because doing so is mildly inconvenient.
I honestly don’t think we’ll do anything until the fines start hitting.
We enthusiastically sign up to international agreements and don’t mean any of it. It’s just sound bites and virtue signalling. When push comes to shove, we basically don’t do very much about any of this.
We’re also great at the odd climate change protest and a bit of performative student politics – but things like facing down NIMBYs —not a hope!
We keep inexplicably chasing data centre projects that create minimal employment, despite having no spare electricity capacity and driving ourselves into burning fossil fuels. No doubt we’ll end up bending over backward to pay the fines for the multinationals’ gas and oil burning energy plants too. Can’t be having the likes of them paying bills!
I mean ffs we can’t even get people to stop burning coal fires and choking their neighbours in smoke after about 40 years of policy making.
The simple reality is most of us simply don’t give a fuck, but unlike the Americans, we don’t like being seen to be like that, so we do a nice PR campaign about how green we are, but it’s mostly just our lakes…
Got a problem with it, start a Green ‘RA.
How much of that do ya reckon is made up of Guinness farts?
A couple unpopular facts:
Here’s why the greens got decimated:
* primarily because they’re the junior party. Most of the things people blame the greens for, were in fact fgg (why didn’t they spend billions on huge capex projects…)
* secondarily because they were anti motorist, and motorists responded to this with vitriolic and passionate haters they’ll simply never let go. In many places, but absolutely not everywhere, there are very valid alternatives to driving, but people are simply too lazy to leave the car behind. This kind of person is the majority of the country and will not change overnight. For some there is no service reliable and convenient enough, they’ll never leave the car… but for others the difference in cost is enough. The greens were right, but right won’t win you seats
We’d have been in number 1 only for the greens! The next government will sort this out over 5 year term.
Could someone explain the Green party’s achievements while in office? I don’t mean this in a negative way, I genuinely want to know. As I think this country urgently needs to put more energy into tackling climate change.
Green Party is a bunch of useless pricks who want us all back in the stone age. There is no any real action from their side, it’s just noise, useless manifestos and enriching the party members.
Nuclear is the cleanest most efficient energy ever, wind farms off the Irish coasts, where is all of this if they are serious about climate and emissions?
Just keep pushing things as they are, when things get really bad wipe out 90% of the worlds population, sorted
That’s the plan right?
Friends of the Earth ranked the 9 Irish political parties manifestos in relation to renewables and climate action.
The Green party came 3rd. Labour & Soc.Dems were 1st and 2nd.
The Greens were a joke. Their own leader bailed on them when he saw the writing on the wall. They wont see power again for a couple of decades at best. They were essentially wiped off the Irish political landscape.