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    1. HungRy_Hungarian11 on

      Difference is that while you have quicker waiting times in the US versus countries with universal healthcare, in the US you’d probably just wanna do the surgery yourself once you see how expensive the costs are.

      Universal healthcare works amazing for 90% of what day to day people face. General check ups, basic prescriptions, preventative stuff. You would have to pay for those in the US.

    2. TungstenPaladin on

      Ah, that famous European country…the United States of America.

    3. SweetAlyssumm on

      There is another model for the US and that is non-profit private insurance. It’s what I have – Kaiser Permanente. They have been around since 1945 and have 12 million members.

      I have had a couple non-emergency small surgeries that I waited a couple months for. You can walk in for vaccines or blood/urine/etc. tests. They mail prescriptions. My doctor is a dream – I mostly see her for my annual physical because she works really well through email and I don’t have to shlep over there. She answers email within 24 hours or has another doctor answer if she can’t. She makes good use of nurses. Like when I needed some dietary info, she turned it over to a skilled nurse and we had a long phone conversation. This is the general Kaiser model, to use resources carefully but to respond quickly – that saves money (not to mention deaths).

      Kaiser only operates in eight states because they are not trying to make a killing (so to speak) like some other healthcare organizations that have been in the news recently. I wish we had more Kaisers in the US. I like the way they are nimble and innovative but responsive to the patient. My brother in law had this weird genetic anomaly that did not show up till he was older and they caught it — after a lot of expensive (to them) testing. Then he had a five hour operation. He’s fine now – I’m not sure I would expect that of the UK or Canadian systems, from what I have read.

    4. cowsrcoool on

      4 days for aus is load of shit they’re all booked out for Iike 2 weeks more or less at least now and also have stopped bulk billing for the most part

    5. Eat_Your_Paisley on

      Germany and Switzerland do not have single payer insurance

    6. Bokbreath on

      The US already has govt. owned healthcare. It’s called Medicare. It simply does not extend to everyone – it both could and should.

    7. LotsofSports on

      In the US, I’ve made an appointment with a specialist who is 6 months out. Could be dead by then.

    8. insomnimax_99 on

      Friendly reminder that universal healthcare and government owned healthcare are not the same thing. It’s entirely possible to have universal healthcare that isn’t government owned. Indeed, lots of European countries have non-government owned universal healthcare systems.

    9. Green_Space729 on

      How does Switzerlands private System compare to there public Europe counter parts?

      Anyone have experience?

    10. I’m in the US, and I’m currently dealing with a health issue (sciatic pain). The wait to see my PCP was three months.

      While waiting, I went to an urgent care clinic as the pain was getting pretty bad. Only a few hours wait for the urgent care, but it was a six week wait to see the orthopedic specialist that they referred me to (after a one week wait to get insurance approval). The orthopedist referred me to physical therapy, and that was another six week wait (again, after another one week wait for insurance approval).

      The three month wait for my PCP appointment just ended earlier this month, only to be told that my insurance actually won’t cover it because of a dumb technicality, I need to straighten that out and make another appointment…three months from now.

      I don’t know where they got the number 21 days. That’s awful, but it’s an awful that I envy.

    11. mascachopo on

      In Spain you can usually get a GP appointment for the same day or the next one. Longer than that is pretty unlikely.

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