Tenendo presente che gli studenti laureati non sono rappresentativi della popolazione media, si tratta solitamente di candidati preselezionati; i voti non dovrebbero essere più sbilanciati verso 1.0?
Ciò è indice di un fallimento da parte dei professori tedeschi o di una mancanza di preparazione da parte degli studenti?
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di FrozenSpyda
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german university is way harder imo when I compare it with the universities abroad. like the prof doesn’t care if people fail other than in private universities
Cultural attitude. A 3.0 is what in other countries would be a 1.0. A 2.0 is for the professor, and a 1.0 is only for God.
You will find a similar attitude in France, by the way.
first of all, what statistics are you showing?
German uni generally does not pre-select, anybody who fulfils the minimum criteria gets admitted. Admission is easy, the hard part is graduating.
The numbers you see reflect that.
Guess why I dropped out… it was not just because I ran over the Regelstudienzeit during the 2020 to 22 situation. I have a vocational training though as a Fachinformatiker Systemintegration (IHK)… And no I was no where near graduating when I dropped out finally in March…
We literally had a few professors that were know for having a 1,x or failed mentality… and that showed
Because the courses for graduate students are taught at graduate school level. Higher expectations and more complexity than for an undergrad degree. It makes no sense to design courses and exams in a way that makes it easy for everyone to score an A right away. This would only lead to grade inflation and punish students that make an effort to excel
It’s mostly just a different attitude for grading. There are profs who will outright tell you that they would never hand out 1s, because “nobody is perfect” and you can always improve something further. That doesn’t mean they did a bad job while teaching.
Because the average score is supposed to be low.
I do think the distributions you shared could be higher – maybe something like half of students “should” be achieving “gut” grades? But this depends heavily on your assumptions and ideas about what grades “should” look like, and what constitutes “poor”. It also varies a lot across universities and professors.
Furthermore, you brought up a good point that graduate students are not representative – but presumably the universities take this into account and try to target their courses to the students they do have, not the general population.
As an international student in a German master’s program, I can say that adjusting to the style of education, style of exam, and lifestyle of living in a new country can all contribute to bringing grades down. Of course, these things apply mostly to international students, but I suspect that is a growing proportion of students in German master’s programs.
Looks like a really weird grading system compared to what the Australian National University has.
At the university I attended, individual classes were graded based on a distribution. Only one person who scored the best could get a 1, and so forth, with the boundary for failing the exam set by a) relative performance and b) the number of people the program needed to be reduced by.