Russia is dissatisfied with the reported peace deal proposals on Ukraine from U.S. President-elect Donald Trump’s team, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said on Dec. 29, according to state-owned TASS.
Earlier reports from the Wall Street Journal indicated that Trump’s team is considering a plan to delay Ukraine’s NATO membership by at least 20 years in exchange for continued Western arms supplies and the deployment of European peacekeepers to monitor a ceasefire.
Lavrov said the proposal, as outlined in leaks and Trump’s Dec. 12 Time interview, suggests “freezing hostilities along the current line of contact and transferring the responsibility of confronting Russia to Europe.”
eloyend on
Trump proposed like the best deal in history of deals, ever and yet putin rejected it? Bad bad bad decision. Perhaps the orange man will prove his manhood by bringing botox-tsar to heel.
sindri7 on
The Horse (Mouth of ~~Sauron~~ Moth) has spoken! What will be the Carrot-Man answer!?
TylerD158 on
Ladies and gentlemen, the art of the deal!
Iamoggierock on
Hopefully the orange “god” will soon realise these russian idiots are serious in their imperialistic views. Making America great again is so easy. He just has to be strong on Russia. Let’s hope the same can massage the ego enough to protect sanity
CrazyTop9460 on
Russia will never accept a NATO Ukraine.
Ukraine is either permamently neutral or destroyed.
Not saying its right but just the way the Russians view it.
9k111Killer on
Doesn’t that mean that trump will escalate the support to Ukraine?
Need_For_Speed73 on
Excellent! So now Trump, to keep his word, must double the aids to Ukraine.
Intelligent-Let-8503 on
The problem is that only Russia can stop this war. Curently where is no reason for them to negotiate.
Federal_Eggplant7533 on
As long as orcs diss Trump he will get mad. Which is good.
cosmo177 on
A “positive” trait of Trump’s relevant to any settlement is his disdain for being “ripped off”. Russia’s demands are of course a fantasy. Trump is aware of this and has no interest in presiding over a lost war. I find it more likely he will reduce, but not completely stop, US aid while putting the pressure on Europe.
Russia can withstand far more losses than it has so far (c.f. WWII), while Ukraine cannot. That being said, I’m sure Putin wants a way out, at least temporarily, but only if he can sell to his population that Russia “won”. He desperately wants to appear relevant and Russia to regain it’s status as a world power. If he pulls it off, Ukraine will just be the beginning. This is routinely mentioned on Russian State TV.
And this is what concerns me the most—that all-out war with Russia might be the endgame.
EbolaaPancakes on
I dislike Trump as much as the next guy. Well maybe not as much as the unhinged people with derangement syndrome who can’t go an entire day without talking about him, but I do think he is a dumbass.
Either way, what Biden and Jake Sullivan were doing for Ukraine aid was cruel. Drip feeding them enough to not collapse, but not giving them enough to actually win. Dragging this shit out as long as possible.
You can say what you want about Trump, but I think Ukraine has a better chance with Trump than with Biden. There is a good chance that Putin and Trump won’t be able to make a deal, and Trump will get irritated enough that he says fuck it, lets flood Ukraine with everything.
I don’t think he, or the republicans care about Putins government collapsing and ” WhAt CoMeS AfTeR MiGhT bE WoRsE”. If the American republicans buy into the war, Ukraine will have much more than what it does now.
We just need that little spark to convince American republicans and Trump that Putin is not their friend. I think it’s coming. Trump can’t be seen to abandon Ukraine and let Putin strong arm him into a deal that is bad for the west. It’s all the media will talk about for the rest of his term, and with him being so thin skinned, I don’t think he wants that.
Alex51423 on
Gotta wait until president Musk decides what first lady has to proclaim next. Let’s hope Elon does MDMA today and has a good mood towards Ukraine afterwards
SethTaylor987 on
Wow… Tough week for MAGA, man… 😂
Past_Reading_6651 on
Trump promised to end the war before taking office. He has very little time left.
morphiusn on
He will accept russian terms and call it “ended war in less than 24 hours”
No_Priors on
Lavrov is writing Trump’s next proposal as we read this.
StiffySlitRaider on
Someone please act shocked, suprised and otherwise astounded.
Painlezz on
FM? oh Fucking Moron
KaziViking on
…and Trump didn’t even get to be the president before this
Candid-Sky-3709 on
“just one Trump phone call will end all wars” – the art of the squeal. Anyway, incompetent Biden sabotaged Trump the master negotiator in absence. /s
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Russia is dissatisfied with the reported peace deal proposals on Ukraine from U.S. President-elect Donald Trump’s team, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said on Dec. 29, according to state-owned TASS.
Earlier reports from the Wall Street Journal indicated that Trump’s team is considering a plan to delay Ukraine’s NATO membership by at least 20 years in exchange for continued Western arms supplies and the deployment of European peacekeepers to monitor a ceasefire.
Lavrov said the proposal, as outlined in leaks and Trump’s Dec. 12 Time interview, suggests “freezing hostilities along the current line of contact and transferring the responsibility of confronting Russia to Europe.”
Trump proposed like the best deal in history of deals, ever and yet putin rejected it? Bad bad bad decision. Perhaps the orange man will prove his manhood by bringing botox-tsar to heel.
The Horse (Mouth of ~~Sauron~~ Moth) has spoken! What will be the Carrot-Man answer!?
Ladies and gentlemen, the art of the deal!
Hopefully the orange “god” will soon realise these russian idiots are serious in their imperialistic views. Making America great again is so easy. He just has to be strong on Russia. Let’s hope the same can massage the ego enough to protect sanity
Russia will never accept a NATO Ukraine.
Ukraine is either permamently neutral or destroyed.
Not saying its right but just the way the Russians view it.
Doesn’t that mean that trump will escalate the support to Ukraine?
Excellent! So now Trump, to keep his word, must double the aids to Ukraine.
The problem is that only Russia can stop this war. Curently where is no reason for them to negotiate.
As long as orcs diss Trump he will get mad. Which is good.
A “positive” trait of Trump’s relevant to any settlement is his disdain for being “ripped off”. Russia’s demands are of course a fantasy. Trump is aware of this and has no interest in presiding over a lost war. I find it more likely he will reduce, but not completely stop, US aid while putting the pressure on Europe.
Russia can withstand far more losses than it has so far (c.f. WWII), while Ukraine cannot. That being said, I’m sure Putin wants a way out, at least temporarily, but only if he can sell to his population that Russia “won”. He desperately wants to appear relevant and Russia to regain it’s status as a world power. If he pulls it off, Ukraine will just be the beginning. This is routinely mentioned on Russian State TV.
And this is what concerns me the most—that all-out war with Russia might be the endgame.
I dislike Trump as much as the next guy. Well maybe not as much as the unhinged people with derangement syndrome who can’t go an entire day without talking about him, but I do think he is a dumbass.
Either way, what Biden and Jake Sullivan were doing for Ukraine aid was cruel. Drip feeding them enough to not collapse, but not giving them enough to actually win. Dragging this shit out as long as possible.
You can say what you want about Trump, but I think Ukraine has a better chance with Trump than with Biden. There is a good chance that Putin and Trump won’t be able to make a deal, and Trump will get irritated enough that he says fuck it, lets flood Ukraine with everything.
I don’t think he, or the republicans care about Putins government collapsing and ” WhAt CoMeS AfTeR MiGhT bE WoRsE”. If the American republicans buy into the war, Ukraine will have much more than what it does now.
We just need that little spark to convince American republicans and Trump that Putin is not their friend. I think it’s coming. Trump can’t be seen to abandon Ukraine and let Putin strong arm him into a deal that is bad for the west. It’s all the media will talk about for the rest of his term, and with him being so thin skinned, I don’t think he wants that.
Gotta wait until president Musk decides what first lady has to proclaim next. Let’s hope Elon does MDMA today and has a good mood towards Ukraine afterwards
Wow… Tough week for MAGA, man… 😂
Trump promised to end the war before taking office. He has very little time left.
He will accept russian terms and call it “ended war in less than 24 hours”
Lavrov is writing Trump’s next proposal as we read this.
Someone please act shocked, suprised and otherwise astounded.
FM? oh Fucking Moron
…and Trump didn’t even get to be the president before this
“just one Trump phone call will end all wars” – the art of the squeal. Anyway, incompetent Biden sabotaged Trump the master negotiator in absence. /s