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    Arriverò in Finlandia in pieno inverno con la mia VW Golf?


    Ehi!, sto programmando un viaggio invernale in campeggio nel nord della Finlandia. So che ho bisogno di pneumatici invernali, ma ho visto alcune persone parlare di una nuova legge quest’inverno che richiederebbe un certo tipo di pneumatici nordici. Non riesco a trovare molte informazioni concrete al riguardo online. Gli pneumatici chiodati sono illegali nel Regno Unito e in parte d’Europa, quindi non è possibile. Inoltre, ogni consiglio per guidare in sicurezza durante l’inverno finlandese sarebbe apprezzato, soprattutto se hai familiarità con le condizioni stradali locali! Mi scuso se questo è già stato chiesto… Grazie in anticipo!

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    1. an-ethernet-cable on

      If you are unsure about your tires, if you post a picture of your tire surely you’d get the answer.

    2. g_persson on

      I drove from middle of Sweden to Southern part of France. You can make it

    4. picardo85 on

      It is legal to drive with winter friction tyres. It’s not recommended up north, but it’s legal.

    8. ABK-Baconator on

      You are crazy. Just fly to Sweden or Finland and rent a car.

    9. Unable_Ad8675 on

      Legal winter tires have to have what is basically a mountain logo which is attached to some sort of directive. I’ll link something a bit later.

      There are all-season tires that fulfill this directive without studs. Currently it’s very snowy and slippery throughout most of Finland, especially up north. The key is to drive according to the conditions and often this means slower than is the legal limit, and also anticipating ABS activation when braking to intersections.

      Wheel spinning under acceleration is most likely to happen when setting off from a stop and also on highway ramps.

    10. Little-Ad-7521 on

      You could do with a good set of friction tyres. I or someone else can recommend some. The height of the golf should be fine, as long as it’s not lowered. Just be smart where you go with it and I would recommend a shovel and somesort of a friction mat to put under the tires if you happen to get stuck. They are pretty cheap and you should be fine without them. Also you should stick to major roads as much as possible, as they are the ones best taken care of.

    13. Alphenus on

      Your tyres need to have 3PMSF symbol (3 peak mountain snowflake), just M+S (Mud+Snow) is not enough. High quality all weather tyres are almost as good as studded tyres.

    14. Mrkulic on

      Unless you’re going to get studded winter tires and then carry them in the car and change all 4 in Sweden, trying to do this would not be very smart. A golf is not gonna cut it that far up north with friction tires, especially ones not from a Nordic country.

    15. Masseyrati80 on

      The car is fine. Winter driving on public roads is not about risk of getting stuck, it’s about dealing with slippery surfaces, and sometimes snow being blown around to a degree it reduces visibility.

      Once on the road: keep in mind that even with those “three peak” winter tires, 1) you can expect braking distances to be 2 to 4 times as long as during summer, 2) you can’t trust you’ll be able to accelerate aggressively when joining another road, and 3) you can’t turn as sharply.

      Sometimes the road looks slippery but isn’t, sometimes it doesn’t look slippery but is. Some of the slipperiest conditions I’ve experienced, have been when the road looks almost clean.

      Be careful, keep extra long distances to the one driving in front of you, and you’re 99% there.

      Oh, every year some tourists forget that ditches, kerbs and other obstacles can be completely covered by snow. On parking lots and small intersections, follow other’s tire tracks, don’t make shortcuts.

    17. Wooden-Combination53 on

      Not sure if 3pmsf tyres are available in UK. If they are not then just drive to southern Sweden with you current ones and buy those proper tires from there. Might even be cheaper that way

    20. wellnoyesmaybe on

      Also, remember that it might be very, very dark. If it snows, the visibility can be really bad, and there might be reindeer on the road (some of them are white!).

    21. Nugyeet on

      that would be a wonderful drive if you go through with it! I live in Australia and can only dream of being able to see landscapes and snow like that in a car!

    22. lukkoseppa on

      Your tires just need to have a snowflake on them (easiest way to determine). M+s dont count as winter tires anymore. They can still be m+s but need the snowflake.

    23. Every-Progress-1117 on

      Apart from the tyres …. make sure your insurance covers things like getting your car out of a ditches, towing, repairs, starting the car with a flat battery etc.

      Pretty much every car here has inside heater, Webasto and/or block heaters – starting a cold engine at -20 puts a LOT of strain on the battery – pack a spare and a battery charger.

      Windscreen fluid – we use lots of it, and often neat.

      Brushes, ice scrapers.

      Pack warm clothes, even a good sleeping bag, just in case.

      Make yourself familiar with local traffic laws, eg: in Finland, we have a priority from right at some junctions, and also busses pulling out of bus stops have priority when the road speed is 60kmh or lower (indicators sometimes are optional it seems)

      Take advantage of any heated car parks, a lot of supermakets have underground parking – a few hours there will really help with icing inside the car, clearing snow etc.

      How long do you plan driving…. 40 hours of driving would be optimistic TBH?

    24. joseplluissans on

      Everybody talking about tyres here, but remember to change widscreen wash too! Has to be down to -20 degrees or it’ll bust the container and possibly tubes too.

    25. swepro365 on

      Prepare for getting stuck. So winter clothing, food, drinks, a snow shovel, means to make fire. If you are unsure of your tires grab som spiked ones when you enter sweden as they are legal here except for some city centers. Also snow chains might be a good investment

    26. Midgetl on

      If you do this trip with bad tires you will fuck yourself up and at worst fuck someone else up too in traffic, so take proper winter tires seriously. If you try with summer tires and no experience with nordic winter conditions you will get fucked up. Condition on major roads ranges from mostly clear to snowy depending on how the weather has been lately and if they’ve had time to plow em. Smaller roads will be snowy and some might even be pretty inaccesible if it has snowed heavily. In deep winter most smaller roads will force you to drive in ‘channels’ for your wheels formed of ice and snow, and trying to deviate from that channel can be challenging if you’re not used to driving here. Intersections and turns will mostly be slippery so you will have to watch your speeds or risk going over. Elk and reindeers are a road hazard that you’ll need to watch out for. Lapland will also have longer distances between services, so plan your refuels and be prepared for multiple hours of wait time in case you need aid. Overall if you’re not used to driving in the nordic winter, it’s not really going to be a fun experience.

    27. shadowtacos on

      Read the other comments, I would also add that make sure your 12V battery is good. You really don’t want to get stranded in lapland with a dead battery.

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